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08-01-2012 , 04:38 AM
I cannot imagine that it is remotely possible for any player (even including multiple people playing on GiftofGab's account) to earn 3 million rank points in 4 months. Even if you are playing 20 tables 10 hours a day I dont think you could get there. Not to mention the lack of traffic in non-peak times would also prevent you from being able to grind and multi-table enough to get remotely close to this.

From the terms and conditions regarding this promotion on the ACR site:

•The Winner agrees that he shall be required to participate in publicity connected with this promotion, including public disclosure of his screen name and a likeness.

Can you please let GiftofGab know if he should in a photo of himself or his two roomates
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08-01-2012 , 05:26 AM
vrooom vrooom
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08-01-2012 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ACR Rep
We are currently developing Synchronized Breaks and anticipate launching this in the next 30 days. We are have scheduled fixing the two bugs outlined above.
Awesome! Good to know.
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08-01-2012 , 06:51 AM
like it's cool you guys basically copied stars VIP system exactly/did the beast promotion but the big difference is on ACR/True the only people who benefit from it are a group of cheaters who the majority of the player base and your own company know about.
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08-01-2012 , 07:02 AM
Almost signed up today until I read this thread. Glad I did. Seems like it saved me a lot of potential headache. I guess I'll give Carbon a try.
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08-01-2012 , 11:28 AM
With today's software update, the ability to bet based upon the size of the pot - 1/2, 2/3, pot - is missing. This really slows down post flop betting. Please reinstall the pot-based betting options.
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08-01-2012 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Who_Yaw
With today's software update, the ability to bet based upon the size of the pot - 1/2, 2/3, pot - is missing. This really slows down post flop betting. Please reinstall the pot-based betting options.
look at the bright side. less grinders lol

put the pot buttons back!!!
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08-01-2012 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Who_Yaw
With today's software update, the ability to bet based upon the size of the pot - 1/2, 2/3, pot - is missing. This really slows down post flop betting. Please reinstall the pot-based betting options.
+1000000000

And the Sit n Go Lobby is annoying that you can't see the players who are registered without having to open up the tournament lobby. This is very frustrating for Heads up Sit n Gos as they don't need a tourney lobby and just created more windows.
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08-01-2012 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker Clif
What is the status of paper check payouts?

I have not cashed out yet, but when I do, I would rather use my one free check a month than pay debit card fees. I don't even care if the check takes 2 or 3 weeks. I"m trying to do some serious bankroll building, so I'll probably start by taking out the minimum $100 a month (my wife would like to see some actual money coming into our bank account). If I can avoid the debit card fees (which could be a significant percentage of my withdrawal amount) and wait a while for the check, I'll take that deal.

But I've seen some posts about wait times for checks getting longer, and I believe that one person said he's been waiting a month.

What is the current maxium time for receiving a payout by check?
As of this writing, I have made 8 cashouts, and each of them took 2 weeks, +/- one day.
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08-01-2012 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vegasdanes
It's my opinion that Bad Beat Jackpot tables will be more attractive to non - grinders/regulars. So having mostly BBJ tables will, overtime, draw in new players that are casual and not nitty sharks. Whereas if the site was mostly regular tables then we'd get a lot more 2+2ers and the likes joining ACR. Who wants that? lol
I'm fine with BBJ tables in principle. I would gladly play the BBJ tables at ACR if they raked them a normal amount.

The problem is that they don't. The rake on their BBJ tables is ghastly and absolutely guts your winrate. I am at 8+ BB/100 playing the normal tables and < 2 BB/100 on the BBJ tables. So I just stopped because it isn't worth it.

The "better competition"/grinders at the regular tables still isn't very good and is quite beatable. There are plenty of fish at the regular tables, so I don't see a need to play the BBJ tables, and I won't, until they adjust that horrendous rake.
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08-01-2012 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dama8982
You cannot beat 25nl. I grind those tables 12 hours a day sometimes. I know every player. No one, according to my database, is beating the game. Any many players, even a few in the top 10 are down 2k plus, in which case they would not be up at the end of the month, but would barely break even.
Just quoting this to give you a +1. It's possible to beat the game at 25NL -- I was at about +2 BB/100 before I stopped playing the horrible BBJ tables -- but just barely, and it's not worth the effort.
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08-01-2012 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Who_Yaw
With today's software update, the ability to bet based upon the size of the pot - 1/2, 2/3, pot - is missing. This really slows down post flop betting. Please reinstall the pot-based betting options.
I'll register a complaint about this here too. Awful.

Also, I just noticed that the pot-limit games still have the pot-based buttons but the NL ones don't. So it seems like a conscious bad decision and not a glitch.

Last edited by three_dee; 08-01-2012 at 02:16 PM.
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08-01-2012 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by frank costanza 10
Is this due to the extra rake with bbj and feed the beast? What would you suggest then to play 50 nl?
There is no extra rake taken out for The Beast as far as I know. It was awful before they started the Beast promotion and it's the same now. They just take a portion of the jackpot rake and put it in the Beast pot.

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What about just playing the regular tables for 25 nl? Not the bbj tables. Do those rarely get many players?
The regular 25 NL tables and above get almost no players. 10NL and 5NL get lots of players at the regular tables.

The percentage of rake taken out of the BBJ tables at 50NL and up is not so bad, for whatever reason. At 25NL and 10NL it makes no sense to play BBJ tables IMO.
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08-01-2012 , 05:29 PM
Switch to Dealt

Eliminate BBJ tables

ACR will explode.
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08-01-2012 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ACR Rep

Keep wishing for the Beast to have PLO, your wish will come true soon (I’m not being sarcastic). We will be proving that Gift of Gab is not a bot or multiple people
Just wondering if this has been proven? I noticed Gab hasn't got a quick head start today for the beast
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08-01-2012 , 05:49 PM
Is the amount that hit my account today a combination of rakeback and The Beast bonus? Or am I still waiting on the other to go into my account as well.

I have no idea how much rakeback I am earning because the amount I get every week is different from what I calculate from my PTR3, which is different from the amount the RB affialite site I use has as a total. When I emailed ACR the response was,

"Please be kindly advised that in order to calculate the amount to be paid, we have to take other items into consideration (besides the rakeback amount itself). Also remember that we use the contributed system which is calculated by the amount you put into each pot, rather than each and every hand you play.

Hope this helps."

...It didn't really
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08-01-2012 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chazley
Switch to Dealt

Eliminate BBJ tables

ACR will explode.
Stick to your Revolution threads and stop spamming up this one.
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08-01-2012 , 06:05 PM
And when you register first for a HUSng the guy that sits you gets to steal your blinds until you get to the table which takes a while becasue of that "take your seat, yes no" popup. PLEASE CHANGE THE SIT N GO LOBBY BACK TO THE PREVIOUS UPDATE PLEASE.
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08-01-2012 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 39suited
Stick to your Revolution threads and stop spamming up this one.
Spamming?

Honest question: Do you ever look at Pokerstars and say "They did it all horribly wrong"

No one does. Therefore, I question why any site would in their right mind, when a site like Pokerstars exits your target market, you don't mimic them in whatever way possible.

They've got the rewards system down. It is great. Now they must stop cannibalizing their player base with their overly excessive rake at lower limits and using Contributed RB instead of Dealt.
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08-01-2012 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yabastid
Is the amount that hit my account today a combination of rakeback and The Beast bonus? Or am I still waiting on the other to go into my account as well.

I have no idea how much rakeback I am earning because the amount I get every week is different from what I calculate from my PTR3, which is different from the amount the RB affialite site I use has as a total. When I emailed ACR the response was,

"Please be kindly advised that in order to calculate the amount to be paid, we have to take other items into consideration (besides the rakeback amount itself). Also remember that we use the contributed system which is calculated by the amount you put into each pot, rather than each and every hand you play.

Hope this helps."

...It didn't really
My guess is that it's just rakeback. I checked about an hour ago and haven't been paid yet for The Beast. I also had the same issue as you and when I emailed the rakeback department I got pretty much the exact same answer (which did not help). What they don't realize/don't tell you is that PT3 counts the BBJ/JP money taken from each pot you win as "rake" when it is not rake in the true sense of the word since it isn't going directly to the site and you do not get any % of this money back. Just look at hands you've won (of course when playing at BBJ/JP tables) and look at the amount of rake taken from each hand. Compare it to the amount of rake taken from the pot in the HH and you'll see it's rake + BBJ fee. This, of course, leads to PT3 incorrectly displaying the amount of rake you paid so when you get your rakeback you're like wtf I should be getting way more than this. Maybe there's some sort of stat that can be created to filter out all the BBJ/JP "rake" from showing under your Rake column but I'd imagine it'd be pretty tough if you play multiple stakes (as I and many others do). Anyways, that's my take on the issue.
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08-01-2012 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chazley
It is great. Now they must stop cannibalizing their player base with their overly excessive rake at lower limits and using Contributed RB instead of Dealt.
Seems to work for the vast majority of all online poker networks and sites. And yes @ spamming, because you only ever praise the Revolution (formerly known as Cake) network.

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Originally Posted by mlo4sho
What they don't realize/don't tell you is that PT3 counts the BBJ/JP money taken from each pot you win as "rake" when it is not rake in the true sense of the word since it isn't going directly to the site and you do not get any % of this money back.
Why would they tell you something about a third party software? That is none of their business imo?
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08-01-2012 , 06:33 PM
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Seems to work for the vast majority of all online poker networks and sites. And yes @ spamming, because you only ever praise the Revolution (formerly known as Cake) network.
You obviously don't know me, because all I've done recently is bash the Revolution network.

And Contributed/BBJ tables do not work. For proof, look at every major online poker site that switched from Dealt to Contributed RB a few years back. They've all seen massive declines in traffic. And no largely successful site uses BBJ tables.

I'm just waiting for a site to do it right in the current USA market. Revolution, unfortunately, is the closest.
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08-01-2012 , 06:38 PM
Is it even possible to earn 1 million rank points in 4 months? Let alone the 3 million that are required to win the car by December 1. I cant possibly imagine anyone reaching 1 million. Why have a promotion where it is humanly impossible to achieve the prize?
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08-01-2012 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by anton003
Is it even possible to earn 1 million rank points in 4 months? Let alone the 3 million that are required to win the car by December 1. I cant possibly imagine anyone reaching 1 million. Why have a promotion where it is humanly impossible to achieve the prize?
nowhere near possible. really really dumb promotion.
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08-01-2012 , 06:45 PM
Thanks mlo, I appreciate your response... that makes sense.

I'm hoping the Beast bonus is yet to come...
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