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01-29-2020 , 09:00 PM
My venom tickets are now showing up for every non Venom game with corresponding buyin level
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01-29-2020 , 09:03 PM
I've mostly given up on this train wreck of a poker site. But given USA limited options I don't blame anyone for still playing here and I would consider playing again if PLO Blitz ran. I monitor this thread and the site to look for changes.

I got a ton of points put into my account clearly from 2019, but they therefore owe me a lot of medal rewards that are missing. I will wait a few hours to see if medals show up before dealing with customer service.

Nagy is a scumbag. And at some point he is going declare 2019 closed out even though there is an extremely high degree players got shorted. That is called theft.

Last edited by September.28; 01-29-2020 at 09:10 PM.
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01-29-2020 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Thegrinderr
Did anyone get there loyalty points updated?
Noticed today all my combat points were missing and have just a few thousand now, I guess they gave them to the people who just got theirs from 2019 I will say though, it did seem like I got extra when they paid some back in July/august whenever it was.
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01-29-2020 , 09:50 PM
Anyone else have have Venom tickets they can't use anymore (i.e., ones with the extra penny)?
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01-29-2020 , 10:01 PM
They should be converted today
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01-29-2020 , 10:02 PM
Lol, now acr cleaned out my account of all combat points.
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01-29-2020 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Thegrinderr
Lol, now acr cleaned out my account of all combat points.
Same
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01-29-2020 , 10:24 PM
CP all gone, Loyalty page says unavailable
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01-29-2020 , 10:37 PM
Is it just me or is it a bad mistake for a poker site to place you in the BB or UTG immediately upon re-entering a tournament?
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01-29-2020 , 10:38 PM
Yes, CPs appeared/disappeared in short order. Thankfully, WPN has always used transparent accounting practices.

Last edited by IchTheocracy; 01-29-2020 at 11:06 PM.
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01-29-2020 , 11:13 PM
Seen today when I tried to open WPN

https://gyazo.com/4648e86b6dacf86144eb5def2ac46395

I assume this means they have blocked HUDs
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01-29-2020 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mckittrick19
Is it just me or blitz tables not working? I can sit down but nothing happens
This happens to me as well. I try to sit down, but my name never comes up and I never see any actions. Just, freezes.
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01-29-2020 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by restacks
Seen today when I tried to open WPN

https://gyazo.com/4648e86b6dacf86144eb5def2ac46395

I assume this means they have blocked HUDs
try opening the client and have it update without your HUD open.
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01-29-2020 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2WhiteCastle
so funny whenever these new game modes come out its 100% USA players for the first couple days

given this is a 12bb to 50bb satty ill say its all russian bots within 7 days
Yup the Russian/Eastern Euro programmers gotta configure their bots for the new game modes.
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01-29-2020 , 11:37 PM
got 40 bucks plus 1900cb points. is this from 2019 cause I haven't played here since oct.
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01-29-2020 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thegrinderr
Lol, now acr cleaned out my account of all combat points.
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Originally Posted by jonnyman34
Same
Got all my points back.
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01-29-2020 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyk
got 40 bucks plus 1900cb points. is this from 2019 cause I haven't played here since oct.
I believe so... however, who knows how much $$ we've been collectively ****ed out of because due Achievements weren't rewarded before points were zeroed for the new year (WPN only stole $10 from me via such)?
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01-30-2020 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dusk2dawn
Is it just me or is it a bad mistake for a poker site to place you in the BB or UTG immediately upon re-entering a tournament?
More than a few times I've been in the exact same seat. Not in the large tournaments, but On Demands when other seats are available at other tables. Or in the Stud MTT, which only had about 4 tables ever running at once.
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01-30-2020 , 04:17 AM
Is PLO 50-200 pretty much all bots? Tons of E Euros who all seem super botty and even a handful of the USA players.

I played on Chico for awhile and knew all the bots, but I can't quite figure out the WPN ones. They seem to have a different playing style from the Chico ones.
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01-30-2020 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Is PLO 50-200 pretty much all bots? Tons of E Euros who all seem super botty and even a handful of the USA players.

I played on Chico for awhile and knew all the bots, but I can't quite figure out the WPN ones. They seem to have a different playing style from the Chico ones.
Why people always assume that good players who don't tilt are always bots? I went through my Hand2Note database and my biggest winning rate is against Russian players on Blitz50 ( of course 40000 hands is still small sample ). I did Range Reseach in H2N on top 100 grinders and most of them play pretty predictable weak tight style and could be exploited if you spend time to prepare.
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01-30-2020 , 12:14 PM
Sorry if this has been asked here before but how exactly do the venom satties work? Say I get multiple stage 3 or 4 tickets can you convert them to cash and do you have to play them all?
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01-30-2020 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
Why people always assume that good players who don't tilt are always bots?
I don't believe he said that anywhere.

If you're unaware of the bot problems that plague either network you can speak to me about the bot problem in NLHE cash games at Chico, Fossilkid about the bot problem in PLO cash games at Chico, HandofGod666 about the bot problem in PLO cash games at WPN. I'm sure there's somebody here who can also enlighten you about the bot problems in the WPN's NLHE cash games.

I also didn't see it mentioned that these bots weren't somewhat exploitable. That fact is besides the point. They should all still be gotten rid of for the betterment of the games.

Nobody's claiming that every Russian/Eastern European account is botting, but it's pretty clear at this point that those locations are where the vast majority of the botting accounts across all poker sites are most commonly registering from.

And if you think Ignition/Bovada/Bodog are immune because of location restrictions I have bad news for you. I've been made aware that Russian players have been getting accounts on that network too.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 01-30-2020 at 12:34 PM.
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01-30-2020 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
Why people always assume that good players who don't tilt are always bots? I went through my Hand2Note database and my biggest winning rate is against Russian players on Blitz50 ( of course 40000 hands is still small sample ). I did Range Reseach in H2N on top 100 grinders and most of them play pretty predictable weak tight style and could be exploited if you spend time to prepare.
I'm not just a new player complaining poker is rigged, I know what I'm talking about. I've played more PLO at these stakes on BetOnline than any non bot over the past 5 years and I know exactly which regs are bots and which are honest players.

With all the rewards WPN offers and the nature of the games, it's a near certainty that they have even more bots than BetOnline does (and they already have a pretty substantial amount).

What you said does nothing to disprove the fact that they are bots. I agree that they can be beatable. I'm able to beat the BetOnline bots at a pretty decent clip, but that was after months of hard study and hands against them.

As MCA pointed out, even if it is possible for some players to beat them, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be gotten rid of. The fact is that they can play insane hours and #s of hands and absolutely destroy casual players who sit down to play. They are taking a ton of money out of the pockets of honest players and should be taken seriously and dealt with.
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01-30-2020 , 01:14 PM
But...

Phil would prefer you pay attention to him dealing live blackjack, and live games in Costa Rica using Costa Rican di nero.
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01-30-2020 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMarty
More than a few times I've been in the exact same seat. Not in the large tournaments, but On Demands when other seats are available at other tables. Or in the Stud MTT, which only had about 4 tables ever running at once.
but am i just stupid or is that incredibly unfair to put a player who just busted immediately back into the BB or UTG? the diff between that and being seated on button is monumental with 10-15 bbs ofc.

Now i guess it shouldnt matter if i was just busted as much as where my position was on that bust hand. That is what should matter I guess. If I was BB when I busted, or SB, then I shoiuld be seated back upon rebuy on the button it would seem....

Another thing, sometimes they make a new table upon late reg or rebuy, and its just you and one or two other opponents. Usually just a quick two or three hands. But it gives chance to steal to someone when you are allk sitting with 10-15bb stacks, then fills the table. Ive been on good and bad side of all these scenarios, I just think it's worth noting as a community if it is messed up...seems like a pretty big deal.

Like, surely this isn't how pokerstars handles it...
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