Agreed, ACR is best we got. Been hitting a good amount of final tables this week so the MTT bots are definitely beatable IMO.

Yep, Americans are pretty much the only ones who can and afford to play poker as a hobby ( read not seriously - not good).

I have no problem with them I am just suggesting better business model for ACR and of course closing ACR to Eastern Europeans( good players ) would benefit me too. They have all the sites open for them Party, Stars, 888 and we in USA just ACR, Ignition/Bovada and BOL. I just believe that the only way for US poker games to thrive is to segregate the market ( ideally -USA wide but if that is not possible next best solution will be expanding state by state model).

For now, since the US greatly benefits from holding the world reserve currency. This standard of living wont last forever though. It has been said that, “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”.... I think the US has another decent 10 years before it passes the reserve currency along with its inflated standard of living to another country (cough, cough, Asia). Expect live poker in the US to get tougher once this occurs.

LOL, no.

So uhh I am back on WPN after a stint with Ignition. The zone table setup is pretty tilting and 1% rakeback sucks. Guess I will need to start getting used to blitz tables.

ACR > Ignition

Not sure about global, but Ignition/Bovada and Bet Online are overrun by bots these days. And I've been frustrated with ACR as well but its the only US site that is actually doing something about bots. Do you guys not realize....if bots are allowed to play, poker is dead. So while this has been frustrating, acr is the best we've got by a mile. They are the only site standing up to the bots and by doing so losing short term profits. Everyone wants to ***** and complain but they are the only site doing anything about bots.

P.S. Betonline most shady site out there right now and not even close. All of the mtt bots from acr moved there and you cant sit at a cash table without 3+ bots. They know about it and have acknowledged it, yet they do nothing. I wouldnt be surprised if some of them were house bots with how many obvious bots are allowed to play and steal money on this site. Disgusts me.

With the size of Winning Poker Network to only find 40 bots on the entire site is hardly doing something about it. It was a publicity stunt after being bashed by Joey

Anybody else would love that the length of MTT's would be reduced to max 6 hours? I don't see how having super long tournaments and extremely late registration attracts new players or keeps fun players. I understand that all 50 plus tourneys could be longer but lower ones taking 10-12 hours online is a little bit to much.

Bots everywhere.

Tonight in a massive pot deep in a tournament, I had raised almost all of my chips preflop and was facing a tiny all in preflop (getting over 9:1 on call in PLO with a strong hand). My reserve timebank was showing 29 seconds so I tanked to see if anyone else was going to bust before calling. I also have auto timebank engage on. When the reserve bank was supposed to start, it mucked my hand.

damn that is ****ed up.

how is that a bots fault though

My two statements are unrelated. The software doesn't function correctly, and at the same time the cash games are overflowing with bots.

PS - the bots on Ignition are really bad. They don't have stats, especially in Zone, where name changes with each table. Have not had losing session in awhile. And, I am not pro by any means.

They have stats on ACR and BOL. It is worse now because huds work on BOL fast fold poker, and now beta for blitz with drive hud. More sophisticated bots use hud profiles to select operations in the scripts.

Saw someone playing 50nl on ignition in the PG&C forum. They posted a strange hand. I have those types of hands flagged. They represent bot scripting without the knowledge of fold to certain bets. I have not seen too many lately at 25nl, but can recognize with betting pattern, easy to knock off the table.

I am not saying bots are good, just saying they win the least vs regs on Bonition. when we first talked about them in the Ignition thread, everyone noticed them at 25nl Zone. They seem to have moved to 50nl reg tables, where some stats can be had.

To a dewd, please post about your findings in the Ignition forums, or Bovada forums. Doubt they will remove the posts.

Hey guys. New to ACR. Is sharkscope not reliable for tracjing results from this site? My guess is that re-entries are not counted, making everyone look like a boss.

Also I came 5th in an mtt today and my balance has not been updated. Does it sometimes take time to update?

Acr support is the lowest of low. Yes they answer quick but but i have to explain the same problem over and over again. Obv those semi-******s not check previous emails before giving their quick and unqualified answer. What kind of people work there lol?

I would always make sure to never go into the time bank because it was always doing this preflop in cash games. I think it would not engage preflop even if I was in the blind. I'm surprised you haven't had this happen before?

if you go to Winning_TD and PM him you can get your problems sorted out quick, support e-mails would take up to 3-4 days for me.

Looking at the state of the current software as a developer by trade, I can't help but to think that there must have been some sort of issue with the old software (license fees for software, support issues from a hardware standpoint - non-renewal of software) or something behind the scenes that would cause the hard switch to the new format with so many issues.

It is the only logical thing I can think of is that something external forced their hand to use this horrid software and attempt to fix it as they go.

They actually answer pretty quick. I had some back and forth coversation for like 4 emails from my side in just one day. But everytime theres a different person and they not read chat history before they give their unqualified answer

Save 98% of the time wasted and 100% of tour frustration.... pm winning_td when you have an issue. He can usually resolve them in minutes

There are plenty of tournaments that have 90, 120 or three hour registration in addition to the 5 hours. Myself, I like to late reg the big guarantees when I get home from work with about an hour left of registration and then play a few turbos so I can conclude my night at a reasonable hour. I am on the West Coast though, so going deep won't require an all nighter.

Most "new" or "fun" players just want to play. What appeals to them is the chance to turn $10 into $4k or the like; the guarantee is a HUGE factor in many players mind.

If you prefer shorter tournaments with less registration time, you are going to have to sacrifice the size of the prize pool and pick another tourney.

Have them turn into push folds/hyper turbo after reg breaks

I quit playing a few month ago when the software was at its worst and I thought the site would die if it continued. However, I started playing ago and found that some things have improved relative to a few months ago. I am getting rakeback, and the blitz poker tables have stabilized and my money has not gotten stuck in them. The gui still looks like ass but its functional. The player pool is still more than its competitors, but its definitely being held up by some bots. Deposit/withdraw is still easy as always. Compare that to ignition, which new players can't even deposit on due to some dumbass catch 22 rule with bitcoin. TBH this site is the best option americans have, even though its meh.

Completely agree. If they would address bots and MTT rebuy/late reg issues it would kill the competition.
On Blitz tables - it seems that the tables are slower than Zone tables?