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05-21-2024 , 04:43 PM
Sure, sites if they're smart want games to play as short as possible. It condenses the winrates closer to zero and creates fewer situations of players having very high winrates and crushing and net withdrawing harder. Take GG, the most predatory site on the planet. Why do you think the cash games allow for 10bb buyins?

It's not for the players' benefit. It never is.

Is it fair game for these morons to spam tables with their b/e pre-rb short stack plo nit ratholing and make a living off of rb and bonuses from whatever low cost of living place they live in?

Yes.

Does it still completely aids up the games?

Also yes.

So many of these people would rather spam volume with a "safe, boring, easy" way to play that has your winrate so close to zero than have a wide range of "you could be worse than your opponents but you could also genuinely try to get very good and win a ton" It's incredibly weak and just creates absolute aids enviornments.

But again, I can't control them. I just wish there were tables with 100bb min at all times so that the game actually happens to a degree.
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05-21-2024 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MehAllIn
PLEASE add some PLO tables with 100bb min buyin, preferably with an ante of around 0.25bb but without is fine.

The sheer volume of russian/other min buying rakeback slaves table spamming/acc sharing 12+ hours a day for the leaderboards is insane. Some of them are legitimately ratholing off of around 60-80bb stacks. It's absolutely abysmal for games. Short stacking is absolutely disgusting in PLO. I legitimately try to start 3/6 tables only to be met with at least half of the instajoins being 40bb rakeback/leaderboard slaves who either don't sleep or share accounts for the beast. Please touch grass.

And yes, I'm more than aware the inherent "advantage" of being short in this game. It's not even that significant on paper but I guess when you're all capped at winning 2bb/100, the 1bb/100 or so advantage you get being short when the table is deep is massive, huh.
Would love to see this on Ignition as well.
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05-21-2024 , 05:57 PM
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Would love to see this on Ignition as well.
Agree, there are some rathole abusers there too which is extra ugly. There's even a method to INSANELY abuse ignitions' system to the point where it shouldn't be allowed. I've refrained from sharing it solely because I know people would abuse it to all end and it would cripple games if enough people did it. On paper, it appears to be worth about 6bb/100 for free
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05-21-2024 , 08:09 PM
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05-25-2024 , 09:08 AM
I am looking at the last week results for the Sit N Crush leaderboard. Any idea why the number of points needed to cash in any of the tiers is WAAYYY lower than usual?
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05-25-2024 , 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by biggwoods
I am looking at the last week results for the Sit N Crush leaderboard. Any idea why the number of points needed to cash in any of the tiers is WAAYYY lower than usual?
Looking at it again, I realize the site didn't load correctly and it was showing me the results for so far this week. I was so confused.
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05-25-2024 , 10:48 AM
I'm really ****ing exhausted with the Russians and Eastern Europeans colluding in the PLO/PLO8 tourneys on this site. AJ72, luckyfisherman77, DukaLoncic77, EdwardNorton7, LadyMercedes, MuadDib777, SuperPicasso, DzenloO4i, UncleAces, 13win13, JustNoPain, IamRazzACr, GoldMoon, FAL1st, and on and on.

I don't think I've witnessed a single all-in where they're ever ahead. It's always some sort of miracle gutshot three outer with a complete garbage hand or runner runner full house with one of their live cards or something else completely nonsensical. It's to the point with players like JustNoPain that I'm 99% convinced they're paid Nagy shills who are planted in the ecosystem to comb money away from it.

Does anyone else have any experiences to share?
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05-26-2024 , 03:01 AM
I dont play pot limit tournament, actually I don't play any type of tournaments, I do play only cash games nl, 7stud hilo, pot limit and pot limit8 as well, and I play everyday against the ones you named. some reviews:
DzenloO4i is a total killer, every day he wins big pots - multiple pots he basically always scoop. If he raises before the flop I fold even I have a good hand because every time he raises 9 out of 10 he scoop: straight or flush or full.
13win13 super aggressive with all the A2 A3 A4 A5, you can trap him you just have to have a little patience.
LadyMercedes not a champion at all.
IamRazzACr like above, plays mainly 7 stud hilo 2-4 and 4-8. superaggressive and stays until the end with a pair of 8s for the high
GoldMoon I've always seen him play omaha hi lo limit 3-6 5-10 10-20 15-30. never at pot limit games. he is okay, sometimes he starts playing all the hands he raised like a maniac, even garbage hands.
Ghost13 he play only omaha hi lo limit and 7 stud hi lo. good solid and lucky.
mo42 pot limit games. aggressive and good.

and then there are the players from Bulgaria, who are solid aggressive and lucky.
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05-26-2024 , 03:14 AM
if it is true that there are many eastern europe players who are really good and lucky, it is also true that there are many Usa and Canada players who are equally good and lucky.
skill and luck are not limited to certain countries.
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05-26-2024 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cubeblue
I dont play pot limit tournament, actually I don't play any type of tournaments, I do play only cash games nl, 7stud hilo, pot limit and pot limit8 as well, and I play everyday against the ones you named. some reviews:
DzenloO4i is a total killer, every day he wins big pots - multiple pots he basically always scoop. If he raises before the flop I fold even I have a good hand because every time he raises 9 out of 10 he scoop: straight or flush or full.
13win13 super aggressive with all the A2 A3 A4 A5, you can trap him you just have to have a little patience.
LadyMercedes not a champion at all.
IamRazzACr like above, plays mainly 7 stud hilo 2-4 and 4-8. superaggressive and stays until the end with a pair of 8s for the high
GoldMoon I've always seen him play omaha hi lo limit 3-6 5-10 10-20 15-30. never at pot limit games. he is okay, sometimes he starts playing all the hands he raised like a maniac, even garbage hands.
Ghost13 he play only omaha hi lo limit and 7 stud hi lo. good solid and lucky.
mo42 pot limit games. aggressive and good.

and then there are the players from Bulgaria, who are solid aggressive and lucky.
So you're basically saying that DzenloO4i is a superuser of some sort. You realise that's almost impossible, right?

I'm not some sort of WPN defender or anything, I haven't played a hand on there since 2016 I'm pretty sure, and the reason I don't play there now is because I don't trust the site much, but assuming that there's superusers is pretty insane.
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05-26-2024 , 08:48 AM
I never wrote that word, why do you say that?

a called him "total killer" what does it mean: he play only the good omaha hi lo starting hand a234, a235 and so on. raise before the flop with those hands or call a raise.
so is a good player. and almost all the time it is him and 3 others players who with that flop are commited to call all in until the river and almost always he scoop or wins 3/4 of the pot.

there are many players like this, good and even lucky.
the important thing is to understand it in time when you find them at your table.

In sport, it comes to mind the Real Madrid they are very strong but also lucky in decisive moments of the match.
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05-26-2024 , 09:36 AM
People lose track too much, and worst of all, they apparently want to indicate that some countries make users luckier?

I'm sure then that the luck concentrated in Eastern Europe is the same as that lacking in Latin America, I'm going to move quickly to Eastern Europe.
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05-26-2024 , 10:42 AM
However, it's not just the Russians, because the tables are also full of good and lucky American and Canadian players.

and as the wise man said: fortune favors the bold.
so stay bold, stay foolish
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05-26-2024 , 02:46 PM
Let me state ahead of time, I'm not your typical "online poker is rigged" kind of guy, but I feel like that there are some superusers in these larger field MTTs during this entire OSS.

I've noticed some of the nittiest players calling with some of the dumbest of hands in All-in Preflop situations and hitting the nuttiest of hands each and every time. During Late Reg, Bubbles, ITM, I've seen it at all stages. I see it happen with other players as well and not just me.

I obviously can't confirm it as it's just a hunch.
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05-27-2024 , 12:58 AM
What's the best way to deposit Bitcoin into ACR? I've taken a poker hiatus and used to use Coinbase, but they put a long hold on funds. Just curious if there is an easier way. TIA.
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05-27-2024 , 02:22 AM
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What's the best way to deposit Bitcoin into ACR? I've taken a poker hiatus and used to use Coinbase, but they put a long hold on funds. Just curious if there is an easier way. TIA.
Not recommended, but cashapp works for quickness.
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05-27-2024 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by badjefft25
What's the best way to deposit Bitcoin into ACR? I've taken a poker hiatus and used to use Coinbase, but they put a long hold on funds. Just curious if there is an easier way. TIA.
This is the regular WPN thread, but there is a dedicated WPN deposit/withdrawal/general cashier thread. It is also usually on the front page, look about 10 threads down from this one right now. And when you post in the wrong thread you potentially don't have enough eyes catching errors, this time you got lucky. And even if in the future your Coinbase is available to you, use a middle wallet like Exodus. Again this type of stuff can easily be found by reading and posting in the correct thread.

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Not recommended, but cashapp works for quickness.
Do NOT use CashApp directly to/from a gambling site because they are known to close accounts for gambling transactions, use a middle wallet like Exodus.

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05-27-2024 , 05:09 AM
Thank you.
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05-27-2024 , 05:18 AM
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This is the regular WPN thread, b

Do NOT use CashApp directly to/from a gambling site because they are known to close accounts for gambling transactions, use a middle wallet like Exodus.

Like I said it’s not recommended, but if you’re just doing only a few hundred at a time cashapp works no issue. I’ve been doing it for a couple years. It’s all good until you get caught. That’s all I can say.

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05-27-2024 , 09:04 AM
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Like I said it’s not recommended, but if you’re just doing only a few hundred at a time cashapp works no issue. I’ve been doing it for a couple years. It’s all good until you get caught. That’s all I can say.
Withdrawal -> Exodus -> Your wallet -> Bank
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05-27-2024 , 03:30 PM
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Withdrawal -> Exodus -> Your wallet -> Bank
-> Titties
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05-27-2024 , 03:31 PM
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05-27-2024 , 05:18 PM
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Withdrawal -> Exodus -> Your wallet -> Bank
What's Exodus fee compared to Coinbase? Do you sell the Cyrpto to USD first and then withdraw?

I used to use Coinbase pro to sell to USD then withdraw to bank to get the $50 per $1k fee down to about $5-$10.

Last time I tried using Coinbase pro then flagged my account and wouldn't let me back in without a review.
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05-28-2024 , 12:49 AM
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What's Exodus fee compared to Coinbase? Do you sell the Cyrpto to USD first and then withdraw?

I used to use Coinbase pro to sell to USD then withdraw to bank to get the $50 per $1k fee down to about $5-$10.

Last time I tried using Coinbase pro then flagged my account and wouldn't let me back in without a review.
Not 100% sure of fees. I send to Exodus first then Coinbase because Coinbase will randomly verify where the deposit comes from. If it sees it came from a site not allowed (I.E. gambling), it will freeze your account and not allow you to withdraw.
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05-28-2024 , 01:32 PM
Last week I received an email from game integrity saying that my account is under investigation and asking for some documents. It also asked about my relationship with another account (which was my account on a different skin). I sent all the documents but so far I got no response, this was 8 days ago. I sent a couple more emails asking about the situation but got no response either. (Normally ACR support replies are very fast)
I know this is not the official thread but does anyone know if there's an official discord or reddit where I can contact an ACR representative?
Also, it was my understanding that you obviously cannot have two accounts on the same skin but you can have on different ones (I used to play on BCP but I switched to ACR because I was offered a better deal) is this correct?
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