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Originally Posted by MehAllIn
PLEASE add some PLO tables with 100bb min buyin, preferably with an ante of around 0.25bb but without is fine.
The sheer volume of russian/other min buying rakeback slaves table spamming/acc sharing 12+ hours a day for the leaderboards is insane. Some of them are legitimately ratholing off of around 60-80bb stacks. It's absolutely abysmal for games. Short stacking is absolutely disgusting in PLO. I legitimately try to start 3/6 tables only to be met with at least half of the instajoins being 40bb rakeback/leaderboard slaves who either don't sleep or share accounts for the beast. Please touch grass.
And yes, I'm more than aware the inherent "advantage" of being short in this game. It's not even that significant on paper but I guess when you're all capped at winning 2bb/100, the 1bb/100 or so advantage you get being short when the table is deep is massive, huh.
I don't play here much anymore since I stopped trying to keep my no rathole stack going, so I don't know the current state of games, but I do read this thread to try and stay up to date...
I like your idea of making 100bb tables with an ante. I have a very old idea I've tried to get done at any poker site that WPN seems to have come frustrating close to actually doing. When WPN first came out with their version of fast fold poker the buy-in was smaller. But there were rathole players abusing it and players were complaining
so WPN raised the minimum buy-in. WPN came so damn close to getting it right and maybe changing the industry forever. I'm not sure, but I think fast fold is now some funky 80bb - 120bb buy-in. They had the damn chance when they changed things to make the buy-in 100bb minimum and 100bb maximum. Huge opportunity to change the perception of buy-ins forever across the whole online poker landscape. Furthermore, since that variant of poker is often called fast FOLD poker, adding an ante to the game worth fighting for makes folding too often a mistake thereby fixing some of the nittiness of that variant. And I will go even further because in the few instances where there are 'full" or "deep" games on any poker site, if you observe a table, then you see usually half the table is below the initial buy in because they are not topping up. Fix this crap forever. Make a "full ante" table with forced top up. And forced top up is a thing. I was watching a YouTube video of GG Poker cash "all in or fold" and it looks like a forced top up players every hand. I don't know if it is run hard core style where it boots you from the game if your bankroll goes below the force top up amount or it lets you stay and play down the last of your bankroll. So what would be cool on WPN even if as an experiment on the PLO fast fold poker tables since they don't run much anyway would be to take a stake and make it...
100bb minimum, 100bb maximum, .25bb ante with a force top up to 100.25 bb every hand and after everyone posts their ante you are looking at every single player with a 100bb+ stack.