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05-09-2024 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 7a.m.@hu
Why they dont start the Blitz with two players? I would be ok to play headsup waiting for a third player to join..
For some reason ACR stopped all kind of heads up a few years ago. I use to love playing heads up.
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05-10-2024 , 06:44 AM
Can anyone tell me what MTTs look like in the $3-$10 range that plays them?

- Avg # of runners
- What do prize pools look like and what does 1st typically play?
- Avg time to finish
- How often do the big prize pool MTTs run


Thanks!
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05-10-2024 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Can anyone tell me what MTTs look like in the $3-$10 range that plays them?

- Avg # of runners
- What do prize pools look like and what does 1st typically play?
- Avg time to finish
- How often do the big prize pool MTTs run


Thanks!

Your best bet is to filter for "running/Finished" to look at the previous days. However typically most of the MTTs at these buyin levels cover the GTD, but not by much. Also in the tournament description it will say what the expected runtime of the MTT. The expected runtime on most of them has been accurate within 30min from my experience.
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05-10-2024 , 07:27 PM
MID SESSION..... 9man SNGs are turning into 8mans. $5s turning to $6s and rake increase to 10% at turbos. Hypers rake dropped to 5% across all stakes(dropped at micros)
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05-10-2024 , 08:24 PM
My assessment for these SNG changes is that the new 8mans are complete garbage. They might as well bring back DoNs with them still paying out 3 spots. The rake increase at Turbos put the nail in the coffin in those games now. I always prefer Hypers anyway so maybe at the end of the day I will get an increase in volume in those games.
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05-11-2024 , 12:18 AM
When did they start hiding the hole cards in SNG's until it's your turn to act? Last 3 SNG's it has happened.
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05-11-2024 , 12:40 AM
Russian players fishchops and randomizer8 possibly/likely colluding in hyper SnGs

I just was 3 handed with them, I fold BTN (2nd in chips), randomizer8, with roughly 1.6bb, shoves, and fishchops, covering us both by a ton, folds for .5bb more, getting roughly 7 to 1 or something.

Fishchops is a reg. A bad one, sure, but not nearly bad enough to fold ATC in this spot. He plays a lot of tables; it's possible he was on autopilot and somehow didn't see the raise was a shove for only approximately .5bb. It's also conceivable that fishchops is way overfolding because of the advantage inherent in having the big stack on the bubble in SnGs. These things can't possibly compensate for the overwhelming price to make a call with any two, however.

Fishchops also appears to have some type of fish seating script; numerous times a game will have the same number of players for a long time, some non-reg sits, and they snap sit in.

I have no proof of shady behavior, but this rubs me way the **** the wrong way.

Part of me thinks they want me, as a rare non-terrible American player, to quit these games, but I understand I'm probably getting paranoid with it.

Last edited by Karl_TheOG_Marx; 05-11-2024 at 12:49 AM.
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05-11-2024 , 12:41 AM
in a sense, I almost hope it's true, and this fishchops regfish has to resort to this **** to, like, break even after rakeback/leaderboards
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05-11-2024 , 12:54 AM
I also hope Vladimir Putin feeds these mother****ers a polonium sandwich
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05-11-2024 , 09:10 AM
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05-11-2024 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
Can anyone tell me what MTTs look like in the $3-$10 range that plays them?

- Avg # of runners
- What do prize pools look like and what does 1st typically play?
- Avg time to finish
- How often do the big prize pool MTTs run


Thanks!
all i can tell you is that turbo tournaments on ACR are loke regular tournaments on other rooms.

the regular MTT on ACR is the longenst you will have ever played lol.

but it is a great room besides off this
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05-12-2024 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl_TheOG_Marx
Russian players fishchops and randomizer8 possibly/likely colluding in hyper SnGs

I just was 3 handed with them, I fold BTN (2nd in chips), randomizer8, with roughly 1.6bb, shoves, and fishchops, covering us both by a ton, folds for .5bb more, getting roughly 7 to 1 or something.

Fishchops is a reg. A bad one, sure, but not nearly bad enough to fold ATC in this spot. He plays a lot of tables; it's possible he was on autopilot and somehow didn't see the raise was a shove for only approximately .5bb. It's also conceivable that fishchops is way overfolding because of the advantage inherent in having the big stack on the bubble in SnGs. These things can't possibly compensate for the overwhelming price to make a call with any two, however.

Fishchops also appears to have some type of fish seating script; numerous times a game will have the same number of players for a long time, some non-reg sits, and they snap sit in.

I have no proof of shady behavior, but this rubs me way the **** the wrong way.

Part of me thinks they want me, as a rare non-terrible American player, to quit these games, but I understand I'm probably getting paranoid with it.
Sent you a PM
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05-12-2024 , 05:21 AM
Haven't played much on this site in a long while. I just noticed there are 4 max all in or fold SNG. Does anyone actually play these? It seems like the edge would be too small and they would be bot infested. Anyone have insight on this?
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05-12-2024 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by biggwoods
Haven't played much on this site in a long while. I just noticed there are 4 max all in or fold SNG. Does anyone actually play these? It seems like the edge would be too small and they would be bot infested. Anyone have insight on this?
There’s no bots in them yet. They are profitable, but like anything you play on ACR winrate will be low. I’m going to fire some of these tonight alongside my typical OD/Hypers life.

The AoF spins on BetOnline was a good concept, but they had a terrible slow structure, but these AoF games have a great structure which is what I’m excited about.
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05-13-2024 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by biggwoods
Haven't played much on this site in a long while. I just noticed there are 4 max all in or fold SNG. Does anyone actually play these? It seems like the edge would be too small and they would be bot infested. Anyone have insight on this?
With these games only existing for about 24-48 hours I mixed in 30 of these with my regular games and they are pretty tough. However most of the ones I played were 3 regs vs a random. I never came across any maniac Shoving 100% or a super nit folding 90%. Soooo compared to AoF on BetOnline these are fairly tough. I think pretty much everyone will be losing or BE with RB at the end of the day.

The one thing that irked my nerve was the Fold/Allin buttons never going away. So unless I’m using Jurojin I’d never know when it’s my turn to act without putting my full focus on that one game ��
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05-13-2024 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blobbloblob
With these games only existing for about 24-48 hours I mixed in 30 of these with my regular games and they are pretty tough. However most of the ones I played were 3 regs vs a random. I never came across any maniac Shoving 100% or a super nit folding 90%. Soooo compared to AoF on BetOnline these are fairly tough. I think pretty much everyone will be losing or BE with RB at the end of the day.

The one thing that irked my nerve was the Fold/Allin buttons never going away. So unless I’m using Jurojin I’d never know when it’s my turn to act without putting my full focus on that one game ��
Oh, I didn't realize they were new! It seems like the edge would be a little too small with 5% rake? I think they would be great for trying to grind the rakeback rewards since the games should go fast when they are filling. I am definitely interested to see if they can be even slightly profitable pre-rakeback.
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05-13-2024 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by biggwoods
Oh, I didn't realize they were new! It seems like the edge would be a little too small with 5% rake? I think they would be great for trying to grind the rakeback rewards since the games should go fast when they are filling. I am definitely interested to see if they can be even slightly profitable pre-rakeback.
Yeah, unfortunately they are probably a losing game on ACR. Everyone seemed to play solid and all edges to be had are not there in AoF.
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05-14-2024 , 11:13 PM
How do i paste into the ACR cashier to withdraw. I only withdraw once every few months and i forgot
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05-15-2024 , 12:03 AM
nvm figured it out
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05-15-2024 , 08:13 PM
anyone know what happened to the sit and goes on ACR? They seem to have gotten rid of all non turbos and 9 handed games.
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05-16-2024 , 04:20 PM
Some more feedback regarding SNG changes.

Players per table
Reducing tables to 8max doesn't make sense for SNGs.
OD tables are hardly played at full capacity in the first place and this change makes average play even shorter handed. This is especially true for PLO8 ODs where current fields are only around 20.

As for STTs this basically just chops away prize money and gives it a bit of a DON vibe.


OD min players
Raising min players from 6 to 8 might be a real problem for smaller field ODs like PLO8 to kick off.


More importantly: ODs & MTT lobby
The relaunch last year has hit ODs hard. Before the relaunch ODs in Late Registration stage were shown in the MTT lobby by default so they were presented to a much wider audience. By making sure only Late Reg ODs were shown, they would fit in the lobby seamlessly and players could jump right in.

Since the relaunch ODs are no longer shown in the MTT lobby by default. As most people don't change the default setting they'll miss out. And even if they were, the new style is to show ODs of all stages which would make them clog up the whole MTT lobby.

Bring back the old behavior
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05-16-2024 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vvd
Some more feedback regarding SNG changes.

Players per table
Reducing tables to 8max doesn't make sense for SNGs.
OD tables are hardly played at full capacity in the first place and this change makes average play even shorter handed. This is especially true for PLO8 ODs where current fields are only around 20.

As for STTs this basically just chops away prize money and gives it a bit of a DON vibe.


OD min players
Raising min players from 6 to 8 might be a real problem for smaller field ODs like PLO8 to kick off.


More importantly: ODs & MTT lobby
The relaunch last year has hit ODs hard. Before the relaunch ODs in Late Registration stage were shown in the MTT lobby by default so they were presented to a much wider audience. By making sure only Late Reg ODs were shown, they would fit in the lobby seamlessly and players could jump right in.

Since the relaunch ODs are no longer shown in the MTT lobby by default. As most people don't change the default setting they'll miss out. And even if they were, the new style is to show ODs of all stages which would make them clog up the whole MTT lobby.

Bring back the old behavior
I just don’t understand why they added 6max Hyper ODs. I fired one just to play 1 and it was pretty miserable. Most of the time you were just playing 4 handed, which is absolutely terrible when you have 9 other tables going on a laptop.

Last edited by blobbloblob; 05-16-2024 at 04:46 PM.
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05-20-2024 , 11:17 PM
PLEASE add some PLO tables with 100bb min buyin, preferably with an ante of around 0.25bb but without is fine.

The sheer volume of russian/other min buying rakeback slaves table spamming/acc sharing 12+ hours a day for the leaderboards is insane. Some of them are legitimately ratholing off of around 60-80bb stacks. It's absolutely abysmal for games. Short stacking is absolutely disgusting in PLO. I legitimately try to start 3/6 tables only to be met with at least half of the instajoins being 40bb rakeback/leaderboard slaves who either don't sleep or share accounts for the beast. Please touch grass.

And yes, I'm more than aware the inherent "advantage" of being short in this game. It's not even that significant on paper but I guess when you're all capped at winning 2bb/100, the 1bb/100 or so advantage you get being short when the table is deep is massive, huh.
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05-21-2024 , 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MehAllIn
PLEASE add some PLO tables with 100bb min buyin, preferably with an ante of around 0.25bb but without is fine.

The sheer volume of russian/other min buying rakeback slaves table spamming/acc sharing 12+ hours a day for the leaderboards is insane. Some of them are legitimately ratholing off of around 60-80bb stacks. It's absolutely abysmal for games. Short stacking is absolutely disgusting in PLO. I legitimately try to start 3/6 tables only to be met with at least half of the instajoins being 40bb rakeback/leaderboard slaves who either don't sleep or share accounts for the beast. Please touch grass.

And yes, I'm more than aware the inherent "advantage" of being short in this game. It's not even that significant on paper but I guess when you're all capped at winning 2bb/100, the 1bb/100 or so advantage you get being short when the table is deep is massive, huh.
I support this and I don’t play these stakes.
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05-21-2024 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MehAllIn
PLEASE add some PLO tables with 100bb min buyin, preferably with an ante of around 0.25bb but without is fine.

The sheer volume of russian/other min buying rakeback slaves table spamming/acc sharing 12+ hours a day for the leaderboards is insane. Some of them are legitimately ratholing off of around 60-80bb stacks. It's absolutely abysmal for games. Short stacking is absolutely disgusting in PLO. I legitimately try to start 3/6 tables only to be met with at least half of the instajoins being 40bb rakeback/leaderboard slaves who either don't sleep or share accounts for the beast. Please touch grass.

And yes, I'm more than aware the inherent "advantage" of being short in this game. It's not even that significant on paper but I guess when you're all capped at winning 2bb/100, the 1bb/100 or so advantage you get being short when the table is deep is massive, huh.
I don't play here much anymore since I stopped trying to keep my no rathole stack going, so I don't know the current state of games, but I do read this thread to try and stay up to date...

I like your idea of making 100bb tables with an ante. I have a very old idea I've tried to get done at any poker site that WPN seems to have come frustrating close to actually doing. When WPN first came out with their version of fast fold poker the buy-in was smaller. But there were rathole players abusing it and players were complaining so WPN raised the minimum buy-in. WPN came so damn close to getting it right and maybe changing the industry forever. I'm not sure, but I think fast fold is now some funky 80bb - 120bb buy-in. They had the damn chance when they changed things to make the buy-in 100bb minimum and 100bb maximum. Huge opportunity to change the perception of buy-ins forever across the whole online poker landscape. Furthermore, since that variant of poker is often called fast FOLD poker, adding an ante to the game worth fighting for makes folding too often a mistake thereby fixing some of the nittiness of that variant. And I will go even further because in the few instances where there are 'full" or "deep" games on any poker site, if you observe a table, then you see usually half the table is below the initial buy in because they are not topping up. Fix this crap forever. Make a "full ante" table with forced top up. And forced top up is a thing. I was watching a YouTube video of GG Poker cash "all in or fold" and it looks like a forced top up players every hand. I don't know if it is run hard core style where it boots you from the game if your bankroll goes below the force top up amount or it lets you stay and play down the last of your bankroll. So what would be cool on WPN even if as an experiment on the PLO fast fold poker tables since they don't run much anyway would be to take a stake and make it...

100bb minimum, 100bb maximum, .25bb ante with a force top up to 100.25 bb every hand and after everyone posts their ante you are looking at every single player with a 100bb+ stack.
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