Lets do the math on your scenario.

2,100 entrants. $210,000 prize pool. Subtract $32,600 to account for the $100 refunds (I'll add the $100 refund to my total later). That leaves $177,400 to divvy up.

Based on 2,100 entrants; I had 214,494 of 52,500,000 chips so 0.0040856‬% of the remaining $177,400. So, $724.78. Let's not forget that $100 to bring the total to $824.78.

If it was only 2,000 entrants the math works out similar. $200,000 prize pool. Subtract $32,600 for the 326 $100 refunds. Leaves $167,400 to divvy up. In this scenario I would have 214,494 of the 50,000,000 chips so 0.00428988‬% of the remaining $167,400 which would total $718.12. Add the $100 refund to bring the total to $818.12

I would LOVE to see the math that gets me exactly $709.00. That number is damn near impossible to reach with an odd number of chips. They completely pulled that $709 number out of their azz.

I have gotten some refunds and also got ICM chop for a Venom freeroll?? Is that the norm for a freeroll?

This site is a joke, i was 36/103 paying 99 in the $55 30kg when it cancelled , and they refund me $44 ? less than the buyin even? please explain how that is even possible when it clearly says you get your buyin back plus ICM chop in their terms.... pure scam

I am done with this site until they get their **** together.

They shorted me too. Everyone that got a “refund” needs to crunch the numbers themselves. Can’t imagine how much they will save from the people who don’t notice.

No ****ing way.

This is a pretty solid theory. And the fact that when my RB was caught up on 9/24 it was pretty close to what I was expecting (I didn't do exact calcs), tells me that they are able to see the info on their end.

Winning_TD also asked me questions about the 12/31/0000 date showing up for tournaments, and it was indeed showing up for a small handful (probably 10-20%) of the tournaments played during the period in question. But even before I was able to give him that information on which tournaments were showing as 12/31/0000, the RB was in my account.

In the past I have been given what I deemed to be more than what I was due when a tournament was cancelled. I was short on chips and nearly out when the cancellation occurred. I believe it can work both ways.

Mine were really close to what I expected. If short it’s not by much.

You are wrong and ignorant for posting that. There is a set formula/calculation to figure out exactly what your chips are worth. It's not what "you deem" or "they deem" your chips are worth. That would be subjective. They have it spelled out in their cancellation policy exactly how they calculate what your chips are worth when a tournament is canceled based on prize pool, entries, chip stack, players remaining.

The refund they gave me ($709.00 on the dot) is completely bogus and a made up number by them. I dare them to show me any math that equates my value to $709.00 exactly when my chips, by their own explanation, are worth significantly more.

They have my situation escalated and they will get back to me in the next 72hrs. Once again, I encourage everyone to double check their refund amounts.

I did notice my refund on MTT (bubble stage after late reg) was less than BI. I have a notice the amount of MTT BI was credited a couple hours after MTT. The issue is the financial report does not list records of this transaction.

I would ask their customer support to provide a spreadsheet of your activity for Sunday to when you received the partial credit.

Stop playing on this abomination of a website. They already ****ed over all the cash game players with bots and no rake back and now they are stealing from the MTTs. Nagy went to look for investors to buy out this dying site, not to find better servers. Crashes have happened every week in the last 4 month. They are trying to recoup all the money they lost to **** software via fast fold. They need everyone playing fast fold 24/7 and make all the MTTs unlimited rebuys. Every time someone gets short changed, someone is skimming off the top. RIP WPN in 2019.

When did they adjust the blind structures for certain tourneys? Surprising that some reg speed MTTs you even start with <100BB.

UPDATE: My account was credited the extra $92.82 that I was shorted on the refund. For a total of $801.81, not $709.00. That proves the amount that I was credited initially, $709.00, was complete BS. Still no word on how they came up with $709.00 LOL. I'm glad I noticed the blatant attempt at stealing money. I wonder how many other players wont notice their refunds are short.

Once again, EVERYONE WHO PLAYED ON SUNDAY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE REFUNDED CORRECTLY.

PLO blitz doesn't run on any site (except maybe stars or party, but I don't know about those). The fast fold PLO has not caught on at all, even during high peak periods. in US. Good luck with that. Its not managements fault (I don't even play here yet), if players, or bots (for the most part), don't want to play blitz/fast fold.

I received an additional refund on top of the original amount they sent. I still have not been refunded for the $88 40k though, but it appears I have been paid for every other tournament.

Yeah PokerStars is about the only place that fast poker PLO runs.

About two months ago on Youtube, Jnandez did several episodes covering the biggest pots of the day at PLO Zoom. Some of the players in the pool stay a long time and get 1,000bb deep or more. It got me hoping for it to run on WPN. PLO Blitz is the only thing that would make me play on WPN. This company is run horribly.

Great job improving the structures (extra blind levels) of the 1ks and 530s. Now way less turbo, fitting for the high stakes MTTs. I see the 1k 6max on Wednesdays has the old structure still though.

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So let me get this straight. I'm the a-hole because I am upset about the thousands of dollars that have been stolen from me by WPN, but WINNING TD should be lauded for selectively refunding other players that have been shorted?

I experienced something kind of similar that made me think the same thing. I was doing calculations on how much I was shorted on rakeback and quoted that amount to support. They check and notice it's approximately the amount I said that it should be. But after they refunded me (to be fair it was same day) I redid the calculations and realized I made a mistake that should have given me about 7% more than I was actually given. I wonder now if I hadn't told them that I suspected they owed me approximately X what they would have said they owed me.

Looks like this thread got picked up by Poker News:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2019/...t=pn-hp-hero-3

I was off base the other day when I said that the 10nlz pool - w/ rake - is too tough to keep the fish away. Putting more volume in on the other networks, and considering that there's rakeback here, this is a good pool.

anyone on Twitter willing to retweet this? Just trying to get more exposure

https://twitter.com/Brian_Chancey/st...138775553?s=19

Its about damn time this sh** comes to light. As I have said before, get your money off while you can.