It's definitely against the TOS and the IPs would create a problem if on the same table.

Don't think they give a **** about IP's. Have played on same table as my buddy from same IP w/o issue.

That's terrible, but not surprising in the least.

#dethronenagy

All the more reason to give us mucked cards at showdown. There are so many pros to this, and really this only benefits bots and those who collude.

WPN you have so much potential, listen to the people! Gain our trust, gain more players with this very simple fix.

Hey guys , while i sift through this massive thread (since the search button isnt helping me much lol) - can someone answer a quick question for me:

What type of identification to i have to send in to cash out bitcoin and can this site be trusted with the information? I dont want to get spam phone calls in the middle of the night lol. Im new to the site and have been toying around with the deposit/withdraw speeds , etc so please lmk . Thanks

If you have made any deposits in the past using credit cards, you'll need to send in the front and back of those cards. Sometimes they require valid ID as well.


In the future, post any questions about withdrawals and deposits in the other thread. Here is a link to that thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...cp-tp-1332245/

thank you! so many threads here and so little time lol

i never used my cards to deposit here- just my Bc wallet




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Then knowing the level of incompetence at WPN, you probably won't ever need to prove identity at all. You'll likely be able to just continue depositing and withdrawing via bitcoin, anonymously.

that doesnt sound safe - o how times have changed since black friday

i think youre right though- i havent seen any need for Identification yet.


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This.

Usually on your 4th or 5th account while logged in simultaneously, they may ask you for it. If they don’t, they’ll usually ask around account 8 (from my own personal records)

If you don’t want to provide such info, simply tell them you’re running a bot operation. From there WPN owner Phil Nagy himself will contact you and tell you you’re now grandfathered into 98% rakeback.

0.o damn you guys are making this site sound terrible lol

this and bovada are the only sites i found worth putting time in. they are still a hundred times worst than what i lost on black friday though tbh

anyways thanks for the info guys- im still going to try to get some sngs in- if it looks fishy ill cash out but so far im OK with what ive seen


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The biggest problem is that this network seems to not have any concern at all for the obvious cheating that occurs in all of the games on their network. They've literally done nothing to deter it for years, so don't expect anything to change.

That said, there is no better place for an American to get sng volume. You're going to be competing with a higher percentage of cheaters than you would at pretty much any other site/network. But if you play quite well, you'll profit anyway. They have the best rakeback and they have Sit n Crush to give even more rewards to high volume grinders. Breaking even in the games can be quite profitable to high volume grinders. And so far everyone has always gotten paid if they can profit in the games.

believe me brother, if you look up my short history of posts you can see all the problems ive spotted in the online scene since i got back. but thank you for the wise words

i still cant believe there is 3 hours of late registration on this site for mtts. that is unreal to me lol

ill let you all know how the sng grind goes for me though!

edit: on the issue of credibility- i can cut them some slack. the entire industry is unregulated right now from what i’ve read. the gaming commissions that oversee these sites also rely on them for profit so that prevents any meaningful oversight. kind of like the british royals- they are just there for show. its a risk we are all willing to take (no high stakes for me unless i run hot on a bankroll tho!)

I dislike this also. I also dislike the unlimited re-entry. I understand that it can bring more money into the prize pools, but it just makes everything so convenient for the cheaters. I've no doubt that grinding mtt's is the most profitable thing to do, but I don't like playing non-stop 12-16 hour sessions everyday, even if it is more profitable than grinding cash games.

There is really no such thing as "regulated" internet poker for an American, outside of the Nevada/New Jersey sites. But there really never has been, we rely on the fact that it's simply in the sites best interests not to cheat us. And though I find WPN to be more questionable than any other network in the history of internet poker, I still don't think that they are directly cheating anyone. That said, I do 100% believe that they know that there is rampant cheating in all of their games, and I do 100% believe that they intentionally do nothing to deter it.

I don't play on WPN anymore, simply because in my opinion, the only way to force the network to change the way they deal with game integrity is to make it unprofitable for them to continue ignoring the problems. I don't rake anywhere near enough for them to notice that I've gone away, but if I'm right, then over time others will realize the same as me, and they'll stop playing on this network also. Eventually, even the cheaters won't be able to profit, and the network will begin to die. Things will change then, for better or for worse, change will occur.

i agree. hopefully when my state CA wakes up and regulates a legit site that links with Vegas and Jersey, the rest will follow

i understand your argument on making it unprofitable for them if they have cheaters. but IMO (with no evidence btw) - none of these sites left in the US are that profitable to begin with. the player count shows that IMO. i’m willing to make a bet that if everyone wanted to cash out at the same time with any of these unregulated sites it would be impossible- where as the state reg sites have guaranteed payout even if it bankrupts them (they are forced to)

IMO its just one big money funneling operation lol- but ill play along. until the bubble bursts there is still sng money out there for me

this is all just what i think. i have no evidence of anything i said except for my experience in life. just feel like i should say that so no one calls me some names ive seen called here lol. love these forums though

Lies...You have never cashed out before.

This might be true, but I don't think it matters much. It's perfectly possible for them to operate without issue, and without ever needing to have 100% of the player deposits on hand for immediate withdrawal. There will never come a day that everyone asks for a withdrawal at the same time, ..unless of course we get a repeat of Black Friday.

But here's the thing, if the US DOJ somehow finds a way to seize the domains and shut these sites down, I don't think anyone gets paid their money, whether it's available or not.

There is simply no incentive for the sites to pay the money. Well, there probably is some small incentive, just in being a decent human being, but that small incentive, gets dwarfed when compared to the other option of being a less than a decent human being that virtually no one knows, and pocketing a few hundred million dollars.

PokerStars and FullTilt Poker had incentive to pay the money, as they had huge operations outside of the US and could easily continue on making large sums of money, without US players. WPN and PaiWangLuo don't really have this option, if they lose US players, they're left with very few net depositors. Whether the funds were available or not, I wouldn't expect them to ever pay player balances, I'd simply expect them to disappear into the night in the same manner as the Cereus Network did on Black Friday.

Well, that ain't happening. Outside their jurisdiction.

ACR down atm?

How would one go about checking if suspicious accounts are sharing cards? Other than looking at AIEV and flop set%, which other metrics can I look at on HM2?

To those of you who, like me, have been given a small bonus to entice you to come back to the site, I have a question. How do you spend the free money (in my case, an $11 ticket.)

I looked at the list of tournaments where I could use the ticket as a buy-in and I don't understand the options. Here is an example of one tournament that I would be able to play, and the information looked like this (each row that I will type was actually a column on the display):

Tournament: $1,000 GTD
Game type: Hold'em
Starting Time: 9/19/18
Seats: 9
Current Players: 0
Action: (clickable Registration box)

Nine seats indicates a SNG, but that doesn't make any sense. First, there are other tournaments that are listed as SNGs in the Game Type column, but this is not one of them. Second, how can a $10+$1 SNG with 9 seats have a $1,000 guarantee? Also, "9/19/18" is not a starting time.

I clicked on the REGISTER button to see what happen and it didn't give me a starting time, which again seems to indicate a SNG.

What is the story here?

Havent played in a while, can you play on Mac yet for black chip poker? If not a direct download does a done have a simple workaround? Thanks guys.

Poker Brethren you can't save those that dont want to be rescued. Have you ever read, The Allegory of the Cave by Plato? If not, google it as it is an interestimg read about life and perspectives.

I hate seeing peeople consistently banging their head into a brick wall over our online poker options. If you truly want to play online and have better control over your environment in the US you need to go play where it is legal and regulated (NV,NJ,Penn, RI,..)otherwise get to cheating and may the best cheater win. All other sites marketing to US players are illegal operations that cannot be stopped by US government. They will not shut these guys down and if they did you will not get a single penny back by way of US govt.

Anyway just my random 2cents

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Let me explain something crystal clear to you. There is no one and no where on this planet that anyone is outside of the US DOJ jurisdiction when it comes to financial crimes against Americans. Youre delusional if you think otherwise.