I see your point about explaining the differences better, or more detail. I would probably leave something out if I got that involved.

I am assuming that someone who is sending money somewhere after black friday , or for the first time, would educate themselves a little bit. Hopefully, please do this.

My best advice for Americans new or returning, is to get set up on all the available sites that meet your objectives. Sites are just like card rooms, we tend to play a little better in one than the other, or at least feel we do. Also, my game play can't be tracked across sites, so I can evade some of the data collection pros.

While you may not have attacked any one poster specifically, you jumped into the thread out of the blue to call people "homers" (which obviously isn't intended to be complimentary) not once, but twice, for daring to recommend Bovada without giving what you consider to be sufficient reasons.

We had a nice long break from your confrontational style of posting, and don't really need it back.

Hey guys,

Does WPN not have any mac clients? I hear they have multiple poker sites but only one I can find is blackchip and doesn't seem to have a mac client. I enjoyed Bovada proabably will stick with it for awhile. But i do want to look at other options..

I do have a PC at home which may open up more opportunities, does WPN work with pokertracker/Holdem Manager?

I know its a whole other topic in itself but do we see online poker becoming mainstream/regulated in US/California anytime soon so we can use the big sites?

thanks!

PS I was able to educate myself on the pros/cons of Bovada before depositing but thanks for the concern.

So I know I can play on Borgata, PartyPoker, 888 etc.... But can I play on FullTilt, Poker Stars, Bovada etc... as well?

I want to start getting back into playing online. When I started this a few years ago I was told I could only play on NJ sites like Borgata, Party Poker etc.. since they were licensed in NJ but couldn't on the major ones like Poker Stars etc.... Is this true?

I've only played on Borgata but would any of you recommend a better place?

You cannot play on Stars or FTP. Only other choices besides the regulated sites would probably be Revolution and WPN as well as Bovada, but not sure if they are blocking players from NJ. Most Butcoin sites have very little traffic, also stay away from Full Flush / Chico.

Why would you have him stay away from Chico? It's been flying high for over a year under new management. It's #3 in the US market, way, way ahead of Merge.

I guess you're a little out of the loop. People haven't been avoiding Chico for over a year.

If you can't play on Bovada, Chico is the softest site out there for US players. It pays out just as fast as WPN, too.

You need to stress that people avoid Merge as it's a dead network that doesn't pay out. Come on, get with the times, man. It's like you're stuck in 2013 or something

Not bringing them into the discussion at all does the trick just fine. Do you also mention all the software glitches from Chico before recommending it to other players?

Not any more than the people who recommend Bovada to players mention Bovada's glitches. As far as software, it is what it is. I think all the software is atrocious on US sites except BlackChip.

WPN/BlackChip is the best overall network. It's just overall the hardest. By a long shot.

If you can't/won't play on Bovada, the easiest network to make money at, with the highest both cash and tournament population, is Chico. Bovada, WPN, and Chico are really the only legitimate options to US players right now. Intertops is phenomenal and back open to US players but the population is unbelievably low.

So how do you explain that I requested a check from Carbon on 12/22 and received and deposited it this morning? Just asking...

Don't know, don't care. The network is dead. That's a fact.

I'm sure they'll trickle out a payment or two now and then but ...that's it.

Their population is dismal compared to WPN, Chico, and Bovada.

Obviously, you haven't been reading the Merge Deposit/Withdrawal thread. No problem.

WPN does have a Mac client, for all of the network owned brands, which includes Black Chip Poker. The Mac client is currently in Beta, but can be downloaded from their website. If you have trouble finding it, contact live chat via their website and ask them for a download URL.

Yes, WPN works with PT4 and HEM2.

No, regulation is probably years away. Even if you did see regulation in California, it would not give you access to the global player pool. NONE of the regulated states have access to the global player pool. The regulated states have only their state's internal player pools (note: some have sharing agreements, and those are trying to expand, but it's not a given by any means and it will take a decade or more IMO before there is a reasonable player pool in regulated US sites)


You're sorely mistaken, as usual. The site has traffic and it is far from dead.

Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about. As predicted, payments have recovered to swift speeds. Merge is not, nor was it ever, broke as you liked to scream at the top of your lungs to everyone.


Exactly this, the proof is there for everyone, including GreenBliss420 to read.



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Kahn

Yup, the evidence is there - Merge is far, far behind Bovada, WPN, and Chico in traffic. That's a fact.

Not really sure what you're arguing. Certainly couldn't be the above because it's undeniably true.

Good ol' Kahn. Are you ever NOT having an argument about sites you're an affiliate for? That's all you do on here. They should have banned you years ago.

This is @ 5:50pm EST on New Year's Eve. I think it's pretty plain to see how far behind Merge is these days.

Once again, you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

1) I am not an affiliate for Merge

2) PokerScout numbers are ESTIMATED, they do NOT HAVE A FEED OF ANY KIND on Merge.

3) PokerScout has NOT UPDATED ITS NUMBERS AT ALL SINCE THAT FEED WAS SEVERED.


Of course you don't know any of this, because in the history of your multiple 2+2 accounts, you've consistently been incapable of properly reading the simple data displayed on PokerScout and have mistakenly used said misinterpreted information to fuel you whimsical and farcical arguments.

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Kahn

I also don't know what you have against Chico. Under new ownership, they seem to be very good the last year. Their software blows, but we have limited options now don't we.

Can an American that travels to Mexico for 10 days make a Poker Stars account, deposit money, and play on that account while there? Or if they have an existing account tied to a USA address prior to BF can they use it while there? What steps need to be done, if any?

Did you, of all people, seriously just post this?

Not even 24 hours after I posted that we don't need your confrontational style here, you're back once again not to give advice, but to criticize the advice of others:

Even including a criticism for not stressing that people avoid a site he didn't even mention. Are people supposed to give a detailed critique of every US-facing site with every post they make ITT?

This thread has been going along quite nicely for a while now, and immediately after you show up, we have 3 or 4 different arguments going. I'm not holding others blameless (some of what kahn posted only exacerbated things), but there's one thing in common with every argument that started in the last couple of days, and most of the ones from a few months ago - YOU.

Enough already. If you can't change your argumentative/combative style, find another forum to post on. And I don't want to hear about how bad poster X or Y is - this is about you. No one else currently causes the disruption level that you do in this and other threads, and I'm sick and tired of it.

Pretty sure you would need a Mexican utility bill and bank account to start playing on Stars. It takes a few days to set up.

Sounds like a good question for Stars, but AFAIK you have to be a resident outside the US, which I don't think would be realistic in 10 days.

+1

And they are one of the few US facing sites right now that has an active 2+2 rep to answer questions and fix problems.

If you're just living in a hotel or something for 10 days, not really possible. If you had a pre-bf account, you'd need to reactivate that one instead of make a new one.

Guys that prepare and want to hit the ground running can be online in 10 days, but they tend to have lease documents, FM visa, bank statement all lined up and ready to rock. It doesn't sound like you'll have the necessary docs in the allotted time frame.

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Kahn

I E-mailed Stars a few months ago with this question, although it was while being in Canada on vacation rather than Mexico, but I'm assuming their response will also apply here.

Basically they told me you have to prove that you are a resident of the country you wish to play in. Being there on vacation or otherwise a tourist visa does not by itself qualify if you're a U.S. citizen and you reside in the U.S.

As mentioned, yeah lease documents, utilities bill, etc. would be needed.

Do any of the available rooms have something similar to PokerStars spin and gos?

Winning Poker Network. The main skins are Americas Card room and Black Chip Poker. They have jackpot SnGs. $2-$60