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02-12-2018 , 03:36 AM
OK I'll take a look, that's 20.30 GMT right?
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02-12-2018 , 12:28 PM
Sure David will do an official post but Unibet have announced an online series beginning the end of this month.

https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/G.../135326#M22340

Really good news is you can use existing sat tickets to buy into events(exluding uo/uk)

ps.

Alias:-Jonny2192 (Just in case David has the urge to do a giveaway to celebrate the event)

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02-12-2018 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
You usually get a few running in the evenings. Try tonight - I'll sit too around 21:30 CET, once you get two people the others tend to come.
let me know who won, busto with that KJs vs J9s rolling in the sklanskies
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02-12-2018 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj
sng €100 tables ever run? traded 10k points for it but 0 people there, time of day or better trading back in if possible?
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
You usually get a few running in the evenings. Try tonight - I'll sit too around 21:30 CET, once you get two people the others tend to come.
100 euro SNGs are a really exhilarating format to play though aren't they? So you bubbled? I was 2nd myself - 2 hands after you busted it was Q6o < K2o very short stacked.

Lots of fun but I don't play these that often at the moment as they give me high blood pressure

It was like I said though. I sat second around 21:45 and we were running in 20 minutes. Since then nobody waiting and nobody sitting.

@David how about some kind of "early bird" style special offer for the first 2 people to sit an SNG that is the first of it's buy-in level to run in the last 90 mins or something?
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02-12-2018 , 08:30 PM
yeah they are fun, I used to play them a lot more. tbh i will only play them now with free tickets, it's actually better imo than straight rakeback. Stacks are obv ridiculous at 10BBs it is pretty much bingo at that point. Have to say the other guys were playing pretty fishy up until the bubble when that guy who won it was just mashing every btn.
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02-13-2018 , 11:39 AM
Is there a list anywhere of the Major and Minor Challenges?
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02-13-2018 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HelloNitty!
Is there a list anywhere of the Major and Minor Challenges?
https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/G...back/m-p/10277

The list is old but I've requested an updated list as I think this list was pre-sng/banzai challenges
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02-13-2018 , 06:31 PM
A couple of things before I get to individual replies:

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We're having a look at Challenges and are considering either introducing a new loyalty program at the end of 2018/start of 2019, or reworking Challenges in a shorter time frame. There are a number of reasons for this:

- Challenges has become too complex to understand for players new to the system - complete challenges to earn challenge points to earn bonus points which can then be used to purchase tickets etc. A lot of challenges themselves are now quite convoluted.
- Challenges section takes too many clicks to reach from the table/lobby.
- Minor Challenges take on average 500 hands to complete, meaning you have to play 500 hands before being engaged by our loyalty program.
- Any excuse is good to tweak and optimise how we reward different players at different stages of their journey.
- The money allocated to loyalty will NOT be cut. This will by no means be a cost-saving exercise, we have a budget for loyalty and that money will be spent (if not a little bit more). Feels important to add that one in there because sites have taught us that changes to loyalty can mean bad news for players. If you have any questions or thoughts around loyalty I will be as transparent as I can possibly be without giving away information that I have to keep to myself for now.

On that note, I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on Challenges, how you'd like a future loyalty program to look, what engages you & what turns you off, etc. If you could include your own typical quarterly progress in Challenges as context to your feedback that'd be much appreciated.

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As Jonny mentioned, we have our first real MTT Series launching on Feb 26th that will run for two weeks. While it's fairly small to some competitors series' (€300k GTD over the series culminating in a €100k GTD final), we think it will be fun and have four leaderboards running around it

I'll post more info in later in the week and will definitely be running a 2+2 promotion to celebrate!

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We have soft-launched a new weekly Double Trouble tournament, 'VIP Double Trouble'. This is an invite-only tournament restricted to a maximum of 24 players each week and generally aimed at players who have lost at higher stakes. I can't give details on the exact formula used to select players but it is automated and the lobby is restricted, meaning that those players experience a fully-private game. Prizepool is just over €10k per week, 1st place is €2,000 with everyone receiving at least €100 and I'm confident that it will be good for the ecology of the games, particularly NL/PL200+ and high stakes SNGs (SNG players are eligible).

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I'm reliably informed that Irish players can sign up from 19th Feb. We won't publicise it fully until a week or so after, just to ensure that any teething problems are avoided en masse.

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We're also aiming to release a new game format at the end of the year, something I'm very excited about. I can't give any more info yet, and probably can't until after the summer, but just wanted to leave this one here


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Also, next UO is going to be in Malta 17-20th May. Sats in the client now, play.. PLAY!

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This too, go go go! Bucharest is my all-time favourite UO destination but Malta is a close 2nd so I'd definitely recommend it. I'd expect less runners than Bucharest but there is a pool on the roof, a beach nearby and the weather will be amazing... need I say more.

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Please don't transfer the money before let us know about it.
For example I have $ account at SJ. (and also keep more money there as there are some higher tables to play) Definitely don't want to convert those dollars to €, especially not on an unknown rate.
I would rather just cashout from SJ, because I already have enough money at Unibet to play 6-8 400NL.
No worries, I'll be able to post in here before the migration goes ahead so that you'll have notice and a press release will also be sent out ahead of time.

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Congrats on the big win of operator of the year. Hopefully this will encourage the brass at Kindred to put an even higher emphasis on Poker as an award like this should make them realize that you guys are doing something right.
Thanks, it was a pleasant surprise but credit to IGA for being brave and picking the small guy. We've been working a lot over the last few months (and still are) to solidify the foundations of the site whilst still trying to move forwards and the buyin we've received internally has been really positive. I'm genuinely very hopeful for the next 12 months, exciting times on the horizon.

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Had a little chat with support today about two players with almost identical names. I think unibet should warn (email) people who copy anothers name not to do so since it looks suspicious. The players where both regulars as well. If recreational players lose on a table to players who have identical names they will think they get cheated and stop playing.
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It's obv not pure coincidence but perhaps one player trying the psych out another.
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People that collude probably don't give away such obvious tells
Besides it is hard to see the harm in someone called Aces123 and another Aces12345.
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3 players the other night with aliases very similar, I wrote them down and now cant find it and cant remember the names but they are started with the same thing and then had different endings but all in caps at the end. very weird, very botty. Played pretty badly but still needs keeping an eye on
was on either nl100 or nl50
In the past this kind of thing has been players trolling each other and we have given warning for that, will make sure the same thing happens in this instance. Agree that this wouldn't be typical botting behaviour but we'll have a look into that too.

A new poker expert is joining our customer service department on 12th March (I imagine he'll also start posting in this thread later that month). I'm optimistic that he'll be able to raise the general poker knowledge in the CS department so that poker queries are handled better and better, it'll form a big part of his role.

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Originally Posted by tomj
sng €100 tables ever run? traded 10k points for it but 0 people there, time of day or better trading back in if possible?
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
You usually get a few running in the evenings. Try tonight - I'll sit too around 21:30 CET, once you get two people the others tend to come.
2-player SNGs run a decent amount at those stakes but 5-player go off more often around the times LektorAJ mentioned.

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Originally Posted by jonny2192
Sure David will do an official post but Unibet have announced an online series beginning the end of this month.

https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/G.../135326#M22340

Really good news is you can use existing sat tickets to buy into events(exluding uo/uk)

ps.

Alias:-Jonny2192 (Just in case David has the urge to do a giveaway to celebrate the event)
Damn, got here just too late. Giveaway incoming though (please don't post aliases yet though, I haven't even worked out what it will be yet!).

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
100 euro SNGs are a really exhilarating format to play though aren't they? So you bubbled? I was 2nd myself - 2 hands after you busted it was Q6o < K2o very short stacked.

Lots of fun but I don't play these that often at the moment as they give me high blood pressure

It was like I said though. I sat second around 21:45 and we were running in 20 minutes. Since then nobody waiting and nobody sitting.

@David how about some kind of "early bird" style special offer for the first 2 people to sit an SNG that is the first of it's buy-in level to run in the last 90 mins or something?
Good idea, will add it to the discussion list.

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Originally Posted by HelloNitty!
Is there a list anywhere of the Major and Minor Challenges?
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/G...back/m-p/10277

The list is old but I've requested an updated list as I think this list was pre-sng/banzai challenges
Thanks for pointing towards the list - as mentioned above, we're looking at overhauling Challenges and I'm really interested on feedback from those in this thread.
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02-13-2018 , 08:53 PM
Challenges -- If you are going to keep them I would reward good play coupled with taking the sting out of bad beats (e.g., in HUSNG: reraise allin preflop with 1010+ and lose)
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02-13-2018 , 09:08 PM
David, Congrats on win. As to online series size isnt everything, as i keep telling the mrs, but what you do with it.To that end ive put up some suggestions in the community.

Im sending you a pm on here about a bug concern before you hit the me.
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02-13-2018 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetDavid
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I'm reliably informed that Irish players can sign up from 19th Feb. We won't publicise it fully until a week or so after, just to ensure that any teething problems are avoided en masse..
Great news, looking forward to playing on Unibet again.

You mentioned before (in response to my fairly leading question to be fair) that you might find an incentive for Irish players to start playing on Unibet straight away, rather than waiting till the next quarter, since otherwise they would be at a big disadvantage with the way the vip system works, any further plans in this regard?
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02-13-2018 , 10:09 PM
Hi,
The series is great news, looking forward to playing it.
A couple other things:

-Nice to see that your daily mtts are doing well hitting/increasing gtds etc.
My problem is, there is really nothing interesting to play before 18:00 CET. Considering how well the Deep Impact is doing, don't you think there is room for a similar mtt at 15:00 or 16:00 CET? Imo ideal would be a 50e good structured deepstack (preferably 6max) at 15:00 with latereg lasting till around 17:00.

-Now if i am correct almost every single mtt has antes from the start. Which is awesome. How about addig antes to the 5 man SNGs from start? Anteless poker incentivizes nitty play, makes the games less fun.

-Other thing about the 5 man SNGs is the 3 min lvl time. I haven't played too much of these yet, but as above mentioned, seems like the structure is a bit too hyper escpecially at the later stages. Increasing the lvl times to 4 or 5 minutes would help with this somewhat. Besides that adding in a few extra levels so that the transision is less dramatic, might be the best.

You revamped the MTT schedule and it worked out great. Now it would be cool if you could consider making some changes to your SNGs too.

Cheers
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02-14-2018 , 12:07 AM
About the reward system. (I make about 2,5M-3,5M quarterly)

- If you want to make this system simpler just cut out the crap For example remove the cash and play-trough bonuses from the rewards and just keep the bonuspoints (BP later). This way everyone can decide what he wants to do with it.
It would be nice to earn BPs for completing a challenge right away, but that way it would be hard to reward the "big" rakers more. So i guess If you want to keep the challenges, then challenge points should be kept as well.
(In this setup I would add UO packages tho the bonus shop as well, -maybe with some discount- so players who cant make that much in a quarter, could buy it along the way later, if they save the BPs for that)

- If you want to make a whole new vip system, then I think it's a good start to think about something quarterly as well. A yearly system seems to be a bit to big commitment, at least for me. (even though I play at Uni for almost 2 years now, but at least I have the option to get out every now on then, without loosing to much value) On the other hand if you make it a weekly (as PP did) or monthly, then it would be hard to reward players with UO packages, as not many player makes 12,5K€ rake in a month. And i guess you don't want to remove the UO packages from the vip system
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02-14-2018 , 03:08 AM
Not sure I have a suggestion for how to improve it, but "Queen of Flips" seems to lack an element of excitement in some way. I also don't much like that it's vs the site "we'll tell you if you won" rather than vs another player (if it was against another player then you would reduce the variance from your side too).

More moaning: again the "play a freezeout" mission is defined in the small print specifically as a "singularity" tournament (fireball and deep crazy don't trigger it) and again there is a lack of tournaments at decent buy-ins and times to get it done. It held me up for nearly a week this time.
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02-14-2018 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
Challenges -- If you are going to keep them I would reward good play coupled with taking the sting out of bad beats (e.g., in HUSNG: reraise allin preflop with 1010+ and lose)
+1. Anything that incentivises players to play badly seems like a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Beckham087
- If you want to make this system simpler just cut out the crap For example remove the cash and play-trough bonuses from the rewards and just keep the bonuspoints (BP later). This way everyone can decide what he wants to do with it.
+1 apart from cash. I think just getting straight cash is fine but tickets seem a bit pointless now considering a decent chuck of the player base now know they can just exchange them anyway. Playthrough bonuses are probably fine for cash players but they're a pain to clear for SNG/MTT players IMO.

I don't really have any input on challanges personally as I rarely complete them. I'm 99% MTTs so I only complete them as part of missions and tend to try and complete the missions at the lowest possible stakes just to get them out of the way so the points recieved are very minimal.

I do think that the points rewarded need to be a little more consistant as it can be very confusing for players not used to the system to work out why they are getting x points for y challenge. Apart from the extremely low % the thing that seems to piss PS players off is the inconsistancy of the rakeback and the same can be said for the Unibet system (I know there is a graph giving the averages but it's not the easiest thing to find and a new player isn't going to know about it). I actually think a chest-esque reward system would work if players knew they'd always get 5/10/15/20% base rakeback at the different levels with the possibility of something extra on top.

My only other input would be tha CP and BP are too similar from a naming perspective and seem a little confusing.

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More moaning: again the "play a freezeout" mission is defined in the small print specifically as a "singularity" tournament (fireball and deep crazy don't trigger it) and again there is a lack of tournaments at decent buy-ins and times to get it done. It held me up for nearly a week this time.
Majors didn't work either which was annoying. Leo will get a separate rant on the comunity about the MTT schedule shortly
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02-14-2018 , 08:12 AM
For improving the VIP system there aren't that many possibilities imo.
I mean. The reward ladder now is great as it is, tough I really hate that I lose so many rakeback at the end of each quarter by points being lost.
Would be cool that the points you have over your last reward would be converted to BP at some rate which seems fair (it could be the half of the value since you should have cleared it in time, but giving nothing is a bit of a waste)

For mtts it's cool as it is and I think that sngs should go back to the same system (10 cent is one rake point)

For cash it's either this or like with mtts that you get points for the actual contributed rake.

On the other hand it would be cool to have something like this.

My idea
- First few levels of the system stay as is, as they reward really small incentives and avatars and stuff (optional)
- from then you can chose a reward you want to accumulate to. I'll explain it with an example (and what the real point is behind it)
You chose either cash, BP or tickets (and maybe some special rewards like UO, UK,... Packages)
Then you chose the value of the reward. For example 100Bp-1000bp-5000bp etc. The higher reward you select the more value it is. (100bp will only be 10% rakeback, 500 would be 11%, 1000 12% and so on)
Same goes for cash rewards and tickets (with tickets giving the highest rakeback and cash the lowest)

When you select the reward you keep accumulating for that reward until you select another one (but once you selected one you need to keep going for that one or you'd lose your points you already had)

Then you could add some extra rewards you would get after gaining enough VIP points overal (during the quarter) like a freeroll ticket and so on.

Hope I made my idea a bit clear at least
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02-14-2018 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/G...back/m-p/10277

The list is old but I've requested an updated list as I think this list was pre-sng/banzai challenges
Thx

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Not sure I have a suggestion for how to improve it, but "Queen of Flips" seems to lack an element of excitement in some way. I also don't much like that it's vs the site "we'll tell you if you won" rather than vs another player (if it was against another player then you would reduce the variance from your side too).

More moaning: again the "play a freezeout" mission is defined in the small print specifically as a "singularity" tournament (fireball and deep crazy don't trigger it) and again there is a lack of tournaments at decent buy-ins and times to get it done. It held me up for nearly a week this time.
+1 especially the fine print for the freezeout misssion. The naming should have been more clear or simply include any form of freezeout.

Last edited by HelloNitty!; 02-14-2018 at 09:19 AM.
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02-14-2018 , 09:56 AM
Just want to give props to Unibet. Definitely the fairest site out there for everyone. I particularly like no table selection, screename changes(thus no tracking software).
Ridiculous that other sites allow amateurs to have such a handicap from start.
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02-14-2018 , 01:19 PM
id like a reward of having stats of my monthly play sent to me automatically
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02-14-2018 , 03:07 PM
@HelloNitty!, full challenge list for all game formats is up at the link I gave before.
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02-14-2018 , 08:41 PM
weird aliases, these I have seen so far

nebulasLIFE
nebulasRAISE
nebuLASSSS

and another one I cant recall but started nebulas

3 of these were playing at exactly the same time so def not someone just changing their own alias
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02-15-2018 , 05:58 AM
Regarding the loyalty program, I earn about 200k points a month, I only play sngs so I don’t even bother looking at the challenges. It does seem overly complicated right now, I don’t think it incentivises me to play at all. Stars had this right with the old supernova program, in terms of transparency and simplicity, and very clear points targets to work towards.

clapclap, the sngs are definitely a turbo structure, not hyper; I think the structure is just about perfect, maybe something could be done to make it clear to new players it’s a turbo sng, players see 3 minute levels and automatically think hyper and maybe it puts some off trying.

Incentives for game starters at the highstakes sngs would be great (for me ��); I still think more could be done to raise awareness that the €50+ games have a lower rake, I understand lots of players aren’t particularly bothered about the cost, but some are, and unibet hides what is the cheapest sng rake in the business, I don’t really get it.
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02-15-2018 , 09:32 AM
With rewards i would be looking at a personalized rewards system.
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02-15-2018 , 10:37 AM
Rather than a reward system I would like a PUNISHMENT system that punishes imbeciles that call my all-ins with gutshots that come in on the river. Thank you.
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02-15-2018 , 01:37 PM
When it comes to the rewardsystem, I would like the randomness to enter when deciding what I get for a reward, not when deciding when I get it as it is now.

So something like a chest system, maybe a wheel of fortune that you get to spin after playing x number of hands, sngs or tournaments. I wouldn't mind some cross promotion of your other products, like winning free spins or free bets. But do make the winnings from the freespins available for cashout immediateley.

I probably earn around 1000 challenge points each month.
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