[Unibet] Official Thread
Hi Andrew,
Please can you change my 105e of UO tickets and 1x1e sng ticket to
53x2e UO tickets
Need to put some effort back into the UO, not many UO finals left for a Glasgow package.
Alias:- TwitchStream
(pats self on back for remembering alias at last )
Thank You
Please can you change my 105e of UO tickets and 1x1e sng ticket to
53x2e UO tickets
Need to put some effort back into the UO, not many UO finals left for a Glasgow package.
Alias:- TwitchStream
(pats self on back for remembering alias at last )
Thank You
RE: observe only bug
I think thats how i got back in eventually, but I at that point I had lost 2/3 of my stack sitting out and had like 2 BBs left. I first tried to open the MTT lobby manually and open my table (which worked) but I couldn't click "I'm back" and i couldn't see my cards. I was having an internal struggle, because I kept gettin big hand at my other tables which reopened (JJ, AKo...) and I just couldn't cope with not playing them and rather restarting the client as often as i could.
Sadly I don't have enough leisure time to play atm, could you therfore extend my tickets (Double Trouble, Daily 25 and €50 SNG, acc: uCALLuFALL)?
tyvm and regards,
Till
I think thats how i got back in eventually, but I at that point I had lost 2/3 of my stack sitting out and had like 2 BBs left. I first tried to open the MTT lobby manually and open my table (which worked) but I couldn't click "I'm back" and i couldn't see my cards. I was having an internal struggle, because I kept gettin big hand at my other tables which reopened (JJ, AKo...) and I just couldn't cope with not playing them and rather restarting the client as often as i could.
Sadly I don't have enough leisure time to play atm, could you therfore extend my tickets (Double Trouble, Daily 25 and €50 SNG, acc: uCALLuFALL)?
tyvm and regards,
Till
I don't think you can use a 1k point sample as a good guide, there is more variance in some of the challenges,looks like you have had a bit of run bad in that 1k. I would expect 80k to be around 800e in rake. Also you need to add in any other bonuses you get from the site in your figures i.e missions.
The challenge system is a fun way to earn points, if you just want direct points play Banzai, SNGs, or MTTs and you will earn points directly on rake paid.
I am confident in April/May I have received significantly more than what I have paid in rake from bonuses,promos etc.
I am quite happy for Andrew to post my total rake for April/May and total received from missions,challenges and promos to illustrate this point.
The challenge system is a fun way to earn points, if you just want direct points play Banzai, SNGs, or MTTs and you will earn points directly on rake paid.
I am confident in April/May I have received significantly more than what I have paid in rake from bonuses,promos etc.
I am quite happy for Andrew to post my total rake for April/May and total received from missions,challenges and promos to illustrate this point.
Totally agree with POW. There is no incentive to play anything higher than NL10 on Unibet.
According to RakeTheRake you pay 10€ rake for 1000 points. So instead of 8% you receive 10% for 80k points. Adding missions you might receive 12%.
But i think the numbers from RTR might be before unibet changed their challenge points system. I cant prove it with data but it always felt like it has gotten worse since then.
Out of curiosity i calculated that if you rake 800$ a month on Pokerstars, starting from Bronze status, you will earn 16,5%. They have Vip Tourneys and freerolls (missions), too.
According to RakeTheRake you pay 10€ rake for 1000 points. So instead of 8% you receive 10% for 80k points. Adding missions you might receive 12%.
But i think the numbers from RTR might be before unibet changed their challenge points system. I cant prove it with data but it always felt like it has gotten worse since then.
Out of curiosity i calculated that if you rake 800$ a month on Pokerstars, starting from Bronze status, you will earn 16,5%. They have Vip Tourneys and freerolls (missions), too.
I just got disconnected (on my end). After sitting back in, I could not top up my stack anymore. Always got the message "Session not found" on the table. Maybe a bug?
hi andrew
i was wondering if you could look over this hand please.
hand id 155317743
i caught this at the start of my session so was able to scribble the hand id down quickly. im not sure if its a wider issue or not.
basically the banner on the main lobby states that the rake is cut by 50% for all cash games playing 2 or 3 handed, this hand was raked at the normal rate and not the reduced as advertised,
as said it was at start of the session and only me and 1 other were seated, its nl50 so the button has made up and the hand is checked down til showdown. the pot is 1e, so if as advertised the rake should be 3 cents but 6 cents is taken, i know its 5.5% but rounded up gives 6 cents but it didnt have the reduction factored in.
now this pot isnt the issue but the wider picture may be, the games that ive been playing the last few days have included a lot of 2 and 3 handed play and if the reduction hasnt been put in place on those pots it would add up to sums that you could call significant but i dont know if this pot is just an isolated case or not. i will be on the look out for more, just this 1 hand sticks out because its very easy to calculate the sums just by looking at it.
thanks
i was wondering if you could look over this hand please.
hand id 155317743
i caught this at the start of my session so was able to scribble the hand id down quickly. im not sure if its a wider issue or not.
basically the banner on the main lobby states that the rake is cut by 50% for all cash games playing 2 or 3 handed, this hand was raked at the normal rate and not the reduced as advertised,
as said it was at start of the session and only me and 1 other were seated, its nl50 so the button has made up and the hand is checked down til showdown. the pot is 1e, so if as advertised the rake should be 3 cents but 6 cents is taken, i know its 5.5% but rounded up gives 6 cents but it didnt have the reduction factored in.
now this pot isnt the issue but the wider picture may be, the games that ive been playing the last few days have included a lot of 2 and 3 handed play and if the reduction hasnt been put in place on those pots it would add up to sums that you could call significant but i dont know if this pot is just an isolated case or not. i will be on the look out for more, just this 1 hand sticks out because its very easy to calculate the sums just by looking at it.
thanks
I couldn't disagree more. Unibet is the most transparent site I've played on for promotions. The terms are always clear and the steps you need to complete as well as the reward you are going to receive are built into the client so you know where you stand all the time.
The promotion system on Unibet Poker is the best I've encountered anywhere. If you are a volume grinder amongst 1000s of euros in cash bonuses you will also receive free entry into Unibet Open MTT's all over the world.
I'm not at that level yet but the promotion system is one of the things motivating me to get there. At the lower end of the contribution base (those of us that contribute less to unibets bottom line through rake) the situation gets even better.
Every month you can earn cash and or mtt and or sng tickets by completing missions that are easy to complete and motivate you to play for a bit during the month. Why do Unibet take this approach? I imagine partly because the 'by players for players' tagine is more than a catchy phrase to the people that make decisions there and actually a true statement of intent.
On the smoke and mirrors this is downright false suggestion. Not only is the site transparent but it favors on the players side 9 times out if 10. For instance I have seen many people fall short of the double trouble (a free roll for players that have lost money that runs every week) requirement by a few cents and Unibet have issued the ticket anyway.
On any other site you would get a very short response that you haven't met the requirements I know because in similar situations where I've achieved 99 percent of a promo before and emailed in staff have been polite but always unwavering "sorry you have not met the requirements" this is from the biggest poker site in the world.
I'm not suggesting Unibet don't enforce their own terms here or suggesting if people email or post in this thread that you will be able to bypass requirements of promos but I wanted to flag what I have seen and experienced in this thread and Unibet poker. A company that cares about their players and does everything they reasonably can to provide an outstanding poker experience while looking after their players.
The Twitch promotion is another example when Unibet arrive they often don't just appear announce a winner and dissappear, they interact with the community. Frequently asking for feedback from players about how the site is going, complimenting the streamers performance or commiserating the players play if they lost before rewarding them with tickets. This is meant to be 1 stream per night. Last month in the first few days of a promotion they awarded a streamer and ten minutes later were in another stream awarding another! "because both streams were great streams". The assertion you made was that Unibet promos are somehow disingenuous so I wanted to make it clear for anyone reading that this couldn't be further from the truth. Unibet promotions put the player in the centre and if there is ever any deviation from stated terms it is on the players side.
I hope this site goes from strength to strength. I feel sorry for people in parts of the world such as America that can't play here. If you can play here you should try it out. I have played poker for about 6 years and it is hands down the best site (in terms of playing experience, company ethos, promos) I have ever played on.
Banzai is different to NL if you are a NL grinder and play Banzai expecting to make a quick profit you may find you lose money. The buyin is 10bb meaning 5nl banzai is actually 50nl with 10bbs average stack. You can't buyin with €5 and not expect massive swings in increments of €5 either way. If you are a recreational player looking for fun Banzai may be the best poker game you have played, it sure is a lot of fun. There are very few sites out there innovating in this way.
Given the changing landscape of poker and how once very player friendly sites are making changes that appear nothing more than geared at increasing their bottom line at the expense of their players and partners (Amaya) I'm grateful that there are sites like Unibet looking to rejuvenate the world of online poker while at the same time taking care of their players.
The promotion system on Unibet Poker is the best I've encountered anywhere. If you are a volume grinder amongst 1000s of euros in cash bonuses you will also receive free entry into Unibet Open MTT's all over the world.
I'm not at that level yet but the promotion system is one of the things motivating me to get there. At the lower end of the contribution base (those of us that contribute less to unibets bottom line through rake) the situation gets even better.
Every month you can earn cash and or mtt and or sng tickets by completing missions that are easy to complete and motivate you to play for a bit during the month. Why do Unibet take this approach? I imagine partly because the 'by players for players' tagine is more than a catchy phrase to the people that make decisions there and actually a true statement of intent.
On the smoke and mirrors this is downright false suggestion. Not only is the site transparent but it favors on the players side 9 times out if 10. For instance I have seen many people fall short of the double trouble (a free roll for players that have lost money that runs every week) requirement by a few cents and Unibet have issued the ticket anyway.
On any other site you would get a very short response that you haven't met the requirements I know because in similar situations where I've achieved 99 percent of a promo before and emailed in staff have been polite but always unwavering "sorry you have not met the requirements" this is from the biggest poker site in the world.
I'm not suggesting Unibet don't enforce their own terms here or suggesting if people email or post in this thread that you will be able to bypass requirements of promos but I wanted to flag what I have seen and experienced in this thread and Unibet poker. A company that cares about their players and does everything they reasonably can to provide an outstanding poker experience while looking after their players.
The Twitch promotion is another example when Unibet arrive they often don't just appear announce a winner and dissappear, they interact with the community. Frequently asking for feedback from players about how the site is going, complimenting the streamers performance or commiserating the players play if they lost before rewarding them with tickets. This is meant to be 1 stream per night. Last month in the first few days of a promotion they awarded a streamer and ten minutes later were in another stream awarding another! "because both streams were great streams". The assertion you made was that Unibet promos are somehow disingenuous so I wanted to make it clear for anyone reading that this couldn't be further from the truth. Unibet promotions put the player in the centre and if there is ever any deviation from stated terms it is on the players side.
I hope this site goes from strength to strength. I feel sorry for people in parts of the world such as America that can't play here. If you can play here you should try it out. I have played poker for about 6 years and it is hands down the best site (in terms of playing experience, company ethos, promos) I have ever played on.
Banzai is different to NL if you are a NL grinder and play Banzai expecting to make a quick profit you may find you lose money. The buyin is 10bb meaning 5nl banzai is actually 50nl with 10bbs average stack. You can't buyin with €5 and not expect massive swings in increments of €5 either way. If you are a recreational player looking for fun Banzai may be the best poker game you have played, it sure is a lot of fun. There are very few sites out there innovating in this way.
Given the changing landscape of poker and how once very player friendly sites are making changes that appear nothing more than geared at increasing their bottom line at the expense of their players and partners (Amaya) I'm grateful that there are sites like Unibet looking to rejuvenate the world of online poker while at the same time taking care of their players.
Sure, done.
I would like to ask you a big favour. I have a ticket of 250 expires in 23 hours. I just noticed it now. Me any my girl bought a flat few month ago I did not even have time to pee.... after work we refurbishing the flat by ourselfes. Unfortunately I totally forget this ticket untill now, but it is already late, I cannot register to any tour with it. It will expire without any action
I would be very happy if you can do anythigh to save this ticket for me.
Andrew, Your action is much apreicated.
I would be very happy if you can do anythigh to save this ticket for me.
Andrew, Your action is much apreicated.
Sure, done.
It turns out that what happens is the tournament started and was going to pay out a minimum of 6 players. As soon as person #7 got knocked out, late reg remained open. However, it would only let in enough people that could be in a tournament with only 6 places paid. If it had stayed open then the next person to join would have taken it to 7 places paid, which wouldn't work due to someone already being knocked out then.
Sure, done.
This isn't intentionally hidden behind smoke and mirrors. It's because the number of hands and thus rake that it takes you to clear them depends entirely on your own playstyle. We can't make a separate page for every single player. Instead I calculate the points based on site averages to mean that 1 point = 1c raked.
If you rake €1.2k, on average you will get 120k points. If you rake 120k points in a quarter, that's worth 10.25% on average.
You have picked the amount that is almost exactly the lowest payout in Challenges. If you earn 1k points, you get 30% total rakeback. If you earn 10k you get 24%. If you earn 1m, you get 31%. If you earn 1.25m, you get 41%.
I don't think you can use a 1k point sample as a good guide, there is more variance in some of the challenges,looks like you have had a bit of run bad in that 1k. I would expect 80k to be around 800e in rake. Also you need to add in any other bonuses you get from the site in your figures i.e missions.
It's a good point about other promotions though - for example, in the May mission the total awards are €14 in tickets and entry to a €3k freeroll. In total, you need to see 24 flops at a Banzai game, so a minimum of 24c. You also need to play 1x €1 MTT (5c), 1x €1 HUSNG (3c), 1x €1 5SNG (5c) and 3x €4 SNG (36c).
That's a total of €0.73 raked for €14 and a freeroll entry. That works out as 1918% rakeback, not bad. We could also consider Double Trouble or the Twitch promo in a similar light.
How can I see what hands I have played on Unibet?
I know it's a newb question but and I should use search but this device isn't the easiest to use. I know I don't get HH or whatever but I just want to see what hands I won with. I'm just starting out with PLO so a couple of hands have surprised me when the money came my way.
I know it's a newb question but and I should use search but this device isn't the easiest to use. I know I don't get HH or whatever but I just want to see what hands I won with. I'm just starting out with PLO so a couple of hands have surprised me when the money came my way.
I don't know if I'm stating the obvious, but in Omaha you have to use exactly two of your holecards. That catches a lot of people out when they start at that game.
Anyway. Our main aim is not to compete on this stuff - our aim is to keep new players alive for longer. Are you seriously suggesting that the games on PokerStars are better value than on Unibet?
Let's also keep in mind that we rake significantly less at NL4 and NL10 than PokerStars do. If we doubled the rake I'd have no problem increasing the rewards another 50%.
I'm just going to quote this bit again to say that so far you've played NL4 and NL10. NL4 rake is about one quarter of what it is at PokerStars and NL10 rake is lower than one half of what it is at PokerStars. This means you're effectively getting 75% and 50% rakeback respectively without even looking at the rewards program. Do you think you get more than that at PS?
I kind of feel Unibet is giving high RELATIVE value to low-volume beginners at a very cheap cost to Unibet (ie freerolls, small SNG tickets), and giving barely anything to the higher volume/stakes players making all the rake for the site. This is great for keeping beginners longer but for anyone else its an obvious fleecing of the players and very bad for poker.
Looking forward to your explanations.
Poker ecology question for you: If you don't give any rewards to low limit players and thus killing them off quickly, where are the players coming from that move up in the limits to feed the almighty sharks like you? And why are most poker sites these days rather feature a recreational model and don't want to cater too much to rake back grinders?
Looking forward to your explanations.
Looking forward to your explanations.
This ^. Rakeback discussions always make me sad. Just take a look at pokerstars at the moment, even at microstakes its full of rakebackgrinding nits that really ruin the games. As a new player pokerstars is the last place i would suggest to go to to play some poker for fun because all the hudregs en seatingscripts will destroy them in a matter of minutes. I am one of those persons that gets less rakeback on unibet but i dont really care because i enjoy the poker expercience and i make more money from actually playing poker (how crazy is that making money from poker instead of rakebackgrinding ^^ ).
The latest months i see al kinds of request from entitled regs in this thread that want supersoft games more rakeback en more regfriendly options and i really hope unibet will not give them all that because the site would become yet another nit en rakebackgrinding infested site and we have alot of those already :-)
/rant over ^^
Any chance of you guys making it so we can use multiple 1euro sit n go tickets at once?
Playing tons of 1euro sit n goes to use up tickets is a bit boring.
Playing tons of 1euro sit n goes to use up tickets is a bit boring.
In the short term, I can exchange tickets if you like - I can exchange to cash tickets or bonuses, but I can't:
- exchange UO tickets to non-UO tickets
- exchange cash game tickets that have seen any flops
- exchange the welcome offer cash game tickets
- exchange the welcome offer playthrough bonus
- exchange a playthrough bonus that's had anything completed
hello andrew
my alias for those hand histories to check is edgehead
thanks
my alias for those hand histories to check is edgehead
thanks
Are you seriously suggesting that the games on PokerStars are better value than on Unibet?
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ). Not to mention that you can improve your game a lot faster by using tracker software.
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ). Not to mention that you can improve your game a lot faster by using tracker software.
Are you seriously suggesting that the games on PokerStars are better value than on Unibet?
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ). Not to mention that you can improve your game a lot faster by using tracker software.
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ). Not to mention that you can improve your game a lot faster by using tracker software.
I mostly play 25nl on unibet but my volume is pretty low so i still get more out of unibet than on pokerstars. The thing i find strange is that alot of regs always start over rakeback in these discussions like you do now. while rakeback a abit important i make money from playing poker not from rakeback or needing rakeback have a profit. The high rakeback deals en things like supernova have killed of "fun" poker abit but thats my personal opinion ofcourse. But the microstakes on stars at the moment are very unattractive because of the rakebackgrinders that infest those stakes.
greetz hatebreedd
I really dont understand the argument. Less rake paid + softer games (more recs) should mean happy players. No?
A happy poker player doesn't necessarily exist, because you cannot please everyone and people always have something to complain about.
It's not just about the HUD which i think is pretty unimportant in most cases. It's about all those little things behind the HUD...
"I mostly play 25nl on unibet but my volume is pretty low so i still get more out of unibet than on pokerstars. The thing i find strange is that alot of regs always start over rakeback in these discussions like you do now."
I totally agree with you that this is most likely the case. But as soon as you put in some volume you'll see how things change.
"I mostly play 25nl on unibet but my volume is pretty low so i still get more out of unibet than on pokerstars. The thing i find strange is that alot of regs always start over rakeback in these discussions like you do now."
I totally agree with you that this is most likely the case. But as soon as you put in some volume you'll see how things change.
There've been a couple of tweets about it, so I'll confirm it here - Viktor Blom will stream on Unibet on Twitch on 27th May.
This is because the rake CAP is halved, not the rake percentage. This was a €1 pot at NL50, so it didn't get to the new half-cap.
I think you seriously underestimate the difference in quality of the games between sites.
Also, reaching Platinum on PS can take you to 25% RB, but it's ~20% on Unibet (with better lower end promos) with the same amount raked. Again, that isn't what we're aiming to compete on, but I don't think we come out poorly against a site like PS.
But if you look at what we DO aim to compete on, we come out a long way ahead of someone like PS. We keep our new players alive for longer and we make poker more fun.
I think this is the best argument of the lot so far as it's definitely true: there can be upsides to using pokertracker etc. But tracking software comes with serious downsides too, which you don't have to worry about on Unibet.
I agree - the reason that a lot of coaches will say you should cut down on tables is to improve your hand reading.
This wasn't directed at me, but it could count against me so I just thought I'd mention here that I've played (and am a long way up over) ~3.5m hands, most of them at NL200+, though all of them several years ago.
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ).
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ).
Also, reaching Platinum on PS can take you to 25% RB, but it's ~20% on Unibet (with better lower end promos) with the same amount raked. Again, that isn't what we're aiming to compete on, but I don't think we come out poorly against a site like PS.
But if you look at what we DO aim to compete on, we come out a long way ahead of someone like PS. We keep our new players alive for longer and we make poker more fun.
This wasn't directed at me, but it could count against me so I just thought I'd mention here that I've played (and am a long way up over) ~3.5m hands, most of them at NL200+, though all of them several years ago.
BadSanta666
Hi Andrew, Please exchange 250 ticket to 3 x 50 and 10 x 10 . Alias pirahn. Many thanks.
Wow, that should be cool to check! Maybe it will also encourage on more streams as well, althought it probably should have been done in the first place in order to spread the word even further. Hopefully the stream will break a record of viewers for these kind of streams.
Any chance of getting Viktor to play 1e HU SNG so I can stream it at the same time, I could even be brave and go all way the up to to the big money and play a 10e game for the first time.
But seriously I will be watching, hope it gets a lot of viewers and from there a lot of new customers for Unibet.
I don't know how you did it but Unibet well done getting isildur1 to stream
Too bad its on a Wednesday, hope we can rewatch it later aswell?
i just got an email from info@unibetsupport.com:
'We are writing to inform you that you have won a second package to the Unibet Open Glasgow event via this month's challenges. If you would like, you can exchange this for €2K worth of cash, MTT or SNG tickets, or postpone one of the packages for the next event in Cannes.
Best regards,
Chelsea
Maria Support'
this seems very dubious to me. i have no idea how i could have won a 2nd package.
is this legitimate? shall i forward it to someone?
'We are writing to inform you that you have won a second package to the Unibet Open Glasgow event via this month's challenges. If you would like, you can exchange this for €2K worth of cash, MTT or SNG tickets, or postpone one of the packages for the next event in Cannes.
Best regards,
Chelsea
Maria Support'
this seems very dubious to me. i have no idea how i could have won a 2nd package.
is this legitimate? shall i forward it to someone?
Hey Andrew, I couldn't make it to todays double trouble and my ticket was used out, can I maybe get one for next week, since i missed this one?
alias: goodcop
alias: goodcop
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