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05-19-2015
, 03:31 AM
RE: observe only bug
I think thats how i got back in eventually, but I at that point I had lost 2/3 of my stack sitting out and had like 2 BBs left. I first tried to open the MTT lobby manually and open my table (which worked) but I couldn't click "I'm back" and i couldn't see my cards. I was having an internal struggle, because I kept gettin big hand at my other tables which reopened (JJ, AKo...) and I just couldn't cope with not playing them and rather restarting the client as often as i could.
Sadly I don't have enough leisure time to play atm, could you therfore extend my tickets (Double Trouble, Daily 25 and €50 SNG, acc: uCALLuFALL)?
tyvm and regards,
Till
Sadly I don't have enough leisure time to play atm, could you therfore extend my tickets (Double Trouble, Daily 25 and €50 SNG, acc: uCALLuFALL)?
tyvm and regards,
Till
05-19-2015
, 05:55 AM
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hi andrew
i was wondering if you could look over this hand please.
hand id 155317743
i caught this at the start of my session so was able to scribble the hand id down quickly. im not sure if its a wider issue or not.
basically the banner on the main lobby states that the rake is cut by 50% for all cash games playing 2 or 3 handed, this hand was raked at the normal rate and not the reduced as advertised,
as said it was at start of the session and only me and 1 other were seated, its nl50 so the button has made up and the hand is checked down til showdown. the pot is 1e, so if as advertised the rake should be 3 cents but 6 cents is taken, i know its 5.5% but rounded up gives 6 cents but it didnt have the reduction factored in.
now this pot isnt the issue but the wider picture may be, the games that ive been playing the last few days have included a lot of 2 and 3 handed play and if the reduction hasnt been put in place on those pots it would add up to sums that you could call significant but i dont know if this pot is just an isolated case or not. i will be on the look out for more, just this 1 hand sticks out because its very easy to calculate the sums just by looking at it.
thanks
i was wondering if you could look over this hand please.
hand id 155317743
i caught this at the start of my session so was able to scribble the hand id down quickly. im not sure if its a wider issue or not.
basically the banner on the main lobby states that the rake is cut by 50% for all cash games playing 2 or 3 handed, this hand was raked at the normal rate and not the reduced as advertised,
as said it was at start of the session and only me and 1 other were seated, its nl50 so the button has made up and the hand is checked down til showdown. the pot is 1e, so if as advertised the rake should be 3 cents but 6 cents is taken, i know its 5.5% but rounded up gives 6 cents but it didnt have the reduction factored in.
now this pot isnt the issue but the wider picture may be, the games that ive been playing the last few days have included a lot of 2 and 3 handed play and if the reduction hasnt been put in place on those pots it would add up to sums that you could call significant but i dont know if this pot is just an isolated case or not. i will be on the look out for more, just this 1 hand sticks out because its very easy to calculate the sums just by looking at it.
thanks
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I couldn't disagree more. Unibet is the most transparent site I've played on for promotions. The terms are always clear and the steps you need to complete as well as the reward you are going to receive are built into the client so you know where you stand all the time.
The promotion system on Unibet Poker is the best I've encountered anywhere. If you are a volume grinder amongst 1000s of euros in cash bonuses you will also receive free entry into Unibet Open MTT's all over the world.
I'm not at that level yet but the promotion system is one of the things motivating me to get there. At the lower end of the contribution base (those of us that contribute less to unibets bottom line through rake) the situation gets even better.
Every month you can earn cash and or mtt and or sng tickets by completing missions that are easy to complete and motivate you to play for a bit during the month. Why do Unibet take this approach? I imagine partly because the 'by players for players' tagine is more than a catchy phrase to the people that make decisions there and actually a true statement of intent.
On the smoke and mirrors this is downright false suggestion. Not only is the site transparent but it favors on the players side 9 times out if 10. For instance I have seen many people fall short of the double trouble (a free roll for players that have lost money that runs every week) requirement by a few cents and Unibet have issued the ticket anyway.
On any other site you would get a very short response that you haven't met the requirements I know because in similar situations where I've achieved 99 percent of a promo before and emailed in staff have been polite but always unwavering "sorry you have not met the requirements" this is from the biggest poker site in the world.
I'm not suggesting Unibet don't enforce their own terms here or suggesting if people email or post in this thread that you will be able to bypass requirements of promos but I wanted to flag what I have seen and experienced in this thread and Unibet poker. A company that cares about their players and does everything they reasonably can to provide an outstanding poker experience while looking after their players.
The Twitch promotion is another example when Unibet arrive they often don't just appear announce a winner and dissappear, they interact with the community. Frequently asking for feedback from players about how the site is going, complimenting the streamers performance or commiserating the players play if they lost before rewarding them with tickets. This is meant to be 1 stream per night. Last month in the first few days of a promotion they awarded a streamer and ten minutes later were in another stream awarding another! "because both streams were great streams". The assertion you made was that Unibet promos are somehow disingenuous so I wanted to make it clear for anyone reading that this couldn't be further from the truth. Unibet promotions put the player in the centre and if there is ever any deviation from stated terms it is on the players side.
I hope this site goes from strength to strength. I feel sorry for people in parts of the world such as America that can't play here. If you can play here you should try it out. I have played poker for about 6 years and it is hands down the best site (in terms of playing experience, company ethos, promos) I have ever played on.
Banzai is different to NL if you are a NL grinder and play Banzai expecting to make a quick profit you may find you lose money. The buyin is 10bb meaning 5nl banzai is actually 50nl with 10bbs average stack. You can't buyin with €5 and not expect massive swings in increments of €5 either way. If you are a recreational player looking for fun Banzai may be the best poker game you have played, it sure is a lot of fun. There are very few sites out there innovating in this way.
Given the changing landscape of poker and how once very player friendly sites are making changes that appear nothing more than geared at increasing their bottom line at the expense of their players and partners (Amaya) I'm grateful that there are sites like Unibet looking to rejuvenate the world of online poker while at the same time taking care of their players.
The promotion system on Unibet Poker is the best I've encountered anywhere. If you are a volume grinder amongst 1000s of euros in cash bonuses you will also receive free entry into Unibet Open MTT's all over the world.
I'm not at that level yet but the promotion system is one of the things motivating me to get there. At the lower end of the contribution base (those of us that contribute less to unibets bottom line through rake) the situation gets even better.
Every month you can earn cash and or mtt and or sng tickets by completing missions that are easy to complete and motivate you to play for a bit during the month. Why do Unibet take this approach? I imagine partly because the 'by players for players' tagine is more than a catchy phrase to the people that make decisions there and actually a true statement of intent.
On the smoke and mirrors this is downright false suggestion. Not only is the site transparent but it favors on the players side 9 times out if 10. For instance I have seen many people fall short of the double trouble (a free roll for players that have lost money that runs every week) requirement by a few cents and Unibet have issued the ticket anyway.
On any other site you would get a very short response that you haven't met the requirements I know because in similar situations where I've achieved 99 percent of a promo before and emailed in staff have been polite but always unwavering "sorry you have not met the requirements" this is from the biggest poker site in the world.
I'm not suggesting Unibet don't enforce their own terms here or suggesting if people email or post in this thread that you will be able to bypass requirements of promos but I wanted to flag what I have seen and experienced in this thread and Unibet poker. A company that cares about their players and does everything they reasonably can to provide an outstanding poker experience while looking after their players.
The Twitch promotion is another example when Unibet arrive they often don't just appear announce a winner and dissappear, they interact with the community. Frequently asking for feedback from players about how the site is going, complimenting the streamers performance or commiserating the players play if they lost before rewarding them with tickets. This is meant to be 1 stream per night. Last month in the first few days of a promotion they awarded a streamer and ten minutes later were in another stream awarding another! "because both streams were great streams". The assertion you made was that Unibet promos are somehow disingenuous so I wanted to make it clear for anyone reading that this couldn't be further from the truth. Unibet promotions put the player in the centre and if there is ever any deviation from stated terms it is on the players side.
I hope this site goes from strength to strength. I feel sorry for people in parts of the world such as America that can't play here. If you can play here you should try it out. I have played poker for about 6 years and it is hands down the best site (in terms of playing experience, company ethos, promos) I have ever played on.
Banzai is different to NL if you are a NL grinder and play Banzai expecting to make a quick profit you may find you lose money. The buyin is 10bb meaning 5nl banzai is actually 50nl with 10bbs average stack. You can't buyin with €5 and not expect massive swings in increments of €5 either way. If you are a recreational player looking for fun Banzai may be the best poker game you have played, it sure is a lot of fun. There are very few sites out there innovating in this way.
Given the changing landscape of poker and how once very player friendly sites are making changes that appear nothing more than geared at increasing their bottom line at the expense of their players and partners (Amaya) I'm grateful that there are sites like Unibet looking to rejuvenate the world of online poker while at the same time taking care of their players.
Sure, done.
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I would like to ask you a big favour. I have a ticket of 250 expires in 23 hours. I just noticed it now. Me any my girl bought a flat few month ago I did not even have time to pee.... after work we refurbishing the flat by ourselfes. Unfortunately I totally forget this ticket untill now, but it is already late, I cannot register to any tour with it. It will expire without any action 
I would be very happy if you can do anythigh to save this ticket for me.
Andrew, Your action is much apreicated.
I would be very happy if you can do anythigh to save this ticket for me.
Andrew, Your action is much apreicated.
Sure, done.
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It turns out that what happens is the tournament started and was going to pay out a minimum of 6 players. As soon as person #7 got knocked out, late reg remained open. However, it would only let in enough people that could be in a tournament with only 6 places paid. If it had stayed open then the next person to join would have taken it to 7 places paid, which wouldn't work due to someone already being knocked out then.
This isn't intentionally hidden behind smoke and mirrors. It's because the number of hands and thus rake that it takes you to clear them depends entirely on your own playstyle. We can't make a separate page for every single player. Instead I calculate the points based on site averages to mean that 1 point = 1c raked.
If you rake €1.2k, on average you will get 120k points. If you rake 120k points in a quarter, that's worth 10.25% on average.
You have picked the amount that is almost exactly the lowest payout in Challenges. If you earn 1k points, you get 30% total rakeback. If you earn 10k you get 24%. If you earn 1m, you get 31%. If you earn 1.25m, you get 41%.
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I don't think you can use a 1k point sample as a good guide, there is more variance in some of the challenges,looks like you have had a bit of run bad in that 1k. I would expect 80k to be around 800e in rake. Also you need to add in any other bonuses you get from the site in your figures i.e missions.
It's a good point about other promotions though - for example, in the May mission the total awards are €14 in tickets and entry to a €3k freeroll. In total, you need to see 24 flops at a Banzai game, so a minimum of 24c. You also need to play 1x €1 MTT (5c), 1x €1 HUSNG (3c), 1x €1 5SNG (5c) and 3x €4 SNG (36c).
That's a total of €0.73 raked for €14 and a freeroll entry. That works out as 1918% rakeback, not bad. We could also consider Double Trouble or the Twitch promo in a similar light.
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How can I see what hands I have played on Unibet?
I know it's a newb question but and I should use search but this device isn't the easiest to use. I know I don't get HH or whatever but I just want to see what hands I won with. I'm just starting out with PLO so a couple of hands have surprised me when the money came my way.
I know it's a newb question but and I should use search but this device isn't the easiest to use. I know I don't get HH or whatever but I just want to see what hands I won with. I'm just starting out with PLO so a couple of hands have surprised me when the money came my way.
I don't know if I'm stating the obvious, but in Omaha you have to use exactly two of your holecards. That catches a lot of people out when they start at that game.
Anyway. Our main aim is not to compete on this stuff - our aim is to keep new players alive for longer. Are you seriously suggesting that the games on PokerStars are better value than on Unibet?
Let's also keep in mind that we rake significantly less at NL4 and NL10 than PokerStars do. If we doubled the rake I'd have no problem increasing the rewards another 50%.
I'm just going to quote this bit again to say that so far you've played NL4 and NL10. NL4 rake is about one quarter of what it is at PokerStars and NL10 rake is lower than one half of what it is at PokerStars. This means you're effectively getting 75% and 50% rakeback respectively without even looking at the rewards program. Do you think you get more than that at PS?
Last edited by UnibetAndrew; 05-19-2015 at 06:07 AM.
05-19-2015
, 06:14 AM
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Poker ecology question for you: If you don't give any rewards to low limit players and thus killing them off quickly, where are the players coming from that move up in the limits to feed the almighty sharks like you? And why are most poker sites these days rather feature a recreational model and don't want to cater too much to rake back grinders?
Looking forward to your explanations.
Looking forward to your explanations.
This ^. Rakeback discussions always make me sad. Just take a look at pokerstars at the moment, even at microstakes its full of rakebackgrinding nits that really ruin the games. As a new player pokerstars is the last place i would suggest to go to to play some poker for fun because all the hudregs en seatingscripts will destroy them in a matter of minutes. I am one of those persons that gets less rakeback on unibet but i dont really care because i enjoy the poker expercience and i make more money from actually playing poker (how crazy is that making money from poker instead of rakebackgrinding
^^ ). The latest months i see al kinds of request from entitled regs in this thread that want supersoft games more rakeback en more regfriendly options and i really hope unibet will not give them all that because the site would become yet another nit en rakebackgrinding infested site and we have alot of those already :-)
/rant over ^^
05-19-2015
, 06:32 AM
05-19-2015
, 06:34 AM
05-19-2015
, 08:35 AM
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Are you seriously suggesting that the games on PokerStars are better value than on Unibet?
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ). Not to mention that you can improve your game a lot faster by using tracker software.
it depends. I think as a recreational/NL10- player i'd prefer Unibet over any other side. But as a player who wants to move up in stakes i think Unibet is not the place to be.
The games at NL25 might be a bit softer on Unibet than on Pokerstars, but the problem is that you will arrive exactly at the lowest point of the rakeback curve while on Pokerstars you're about to achieve Platinum (25%). Stars also has the better rake strucutre ( 4,5% 2$ cap compared to 5% and 3€ cap ). Not to mention that you can improve your game a lot faster by using tracker software.
I mostly play 25nl on unibet but my volume is pretty low so i still get more out of unibet than on pokerstars. The thing i find strange is that alot of regs always start over rakeback in these discussions like you do now. while rakeback a abit important i make money from playing poker not from rakeback or needing rakeback have a profit. The high rakeback deals en things like supernova have killed of "fun" poker abit but thats my personal opinion ofcourse. But the microstakes on stars at the moment are very unattractive because of the rakebackgrinders that infest those stakes.
greetz hatebreedd
05-19-2015
, 08:43 AM
05-19-2015
, 10:46 AM
05-19-2015
, 11:06 AM
Any chance of getting Viktor to play 1e HU SNG so I can stream it at the same time, I could even be brave and go all way the up to to the big money and play a 10e game for the first time.
But seriously I will be watching, hope it gets a lot of viewers and from there a lot of new customers for Unibet.
Last edited by jonny2192; 05-19-2015 at 11:20 AM.
