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09-16-2021 , 09:39 AM
Haha, You know this site is 100 % rigged when You lose three 2-outers vs regbot Eggs69 and two 2-outers vs recbot piero7. Whats the point even playing in here anymore? Its like the Truman show of poker. Ridiculous!
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09-16-2021 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyDontCare
Haha, You know this site is 100 % rigged when You lose three 2-outers vs regbot Eggs69 and two 2-outers vs recbot piero7. Whats the point even playing in here anymore? Its like the Truman show of poker. Ridiculous!
We have reg AND rec bots now? This is news to me!

Must suck to allegedly get sucked out on by our alleged part-time bots when you're supposed to win 100% of the time, every time. If you give me a table alias I'll credit you a couple €0.25 MTT ticket so you can play at a stake where they respect your raises and you can be in the majority wearing your tin foil hat
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09-16-2021 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy-Unibet
I'll need to double check with Stubbe but my educated guess is that there is no carry over. As you're constantly earning BPs with the multiplier the steps are not quick as important as the old challenge system. You get the 12x/18x crossover if you reach L6/L7 as well so I can't imagine we'll be also giving you a head start with loyalty points crossover on top.
Aren't the steps just as important as before?

There's a big disincentive to continue playing at the end of a quarter, if you think you won't reach the next 40kBP/500€, especially 100kBP/1000€ payouts, and your progress toward those goes to waste.

P.S I'm not really familiar with the new system yet, so if it has been stated that the progress between steps will be paid out in BP or something, then it's obviously all good
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09-16-2021 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Twatter
Aren't the steps just as important as before?

There's a big disincentive to continue playing at the end of a quarter, if you think you won't reach the next 40kBP/500€, especially 100kBP/1000€ payouts, and your progress toward those goes to waste.

P.S I'm not really familiar with the new system yet, so if it has been stated that the progress between steps will be paid out in BP or something, then it's obviously all good
With the new system you're earning BP between steps as well as getting the step rewards themselves

Example: From 6 to 6-1 you'll earn up to a total of €204 in BP while you progress through the level (Paid out in 100 BP chunks). If you get 50% of the way between 6 and 6-1 you'll get €102 in BP for example. If you reach 6-1 you get the full €204 + the step reward. The €204 is the equivalent of 12% rb of the rake paid between 6 and 6-1.

The step rewards are obviously still a better reward but it's not the same as the all or nothing rewards in the past. You'll also carry over the multiplier and will be getting 12% rb instead of the 2x/3.5x/4.5x/6.5x when playing between levels 2-5 next Q.

Last edited by Andy-Unibet; 09-16-2021 at 01:45 PM.
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09-16-2021 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy-Unibet
We have reg AND rec bots now? This is news to me!

Must suck to allegedly get sucked out on by our alleged part-time bots when you're supposed to win 100% of the time, every time. If you give me a table alias I'll credit you a couple €0.25 MTT ticket so you can play at a stake where they respect your raises and you can be in the majority wearing your tin foil hat

I think Unibet is rigged towards awful Sun/Mon tournaments and that I should be given a €25 ticket for this serious allegation.
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09-17-2021 , 01:06 AM
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I think Unibet is rigged towards awful Sun/Mon tournaments and that I should be given a €25 ticket for this serious allegation.
You work the night shift, go play solitaire or do a sudoku or something
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09-17-2021 , 09:35 AM
I'll be on vacation for the next 2 1/2 weeks so try not to break anything while I'm away.

I'm sure Stubbe will stop by if anything major happens and I'm bound to get bored and check on things but if you need anything done then please contact support or post on the Unibet Community and one of the team will pick up your request.
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09-20-2021 , 11:29 AM
The release notes for tomorrow can be found here: https://www.unibetcommunity.com/foru...le-mitigation/

Main item is the rathole mitigation.
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09-27-2021 , 08:08 AM
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The release notes for tomorrow
Stubbe, can you give us a quick update on the Flop Race rules/ways of accumulating points and (especially) payouts... there is nothing to be found on Unibet.com and the link in the software redirects to other poker promotions/info Thx friend
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09-27-2021 , 08:26 AM
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Stubbe, can you give us a quick update on the Flop Race rules/ways of accumulating points and (especially) payouts... there is nothing to be found on Unibet.com and the link in the software redirects to other poker promotions/info Thx friend
https://www.unibet.com/promotions/po...ions/flop-race
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09-27-2021 , 11:13 AM
Thx
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09-28-2021 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Twatter
Aren't the steps just as important as before?

There's a big disincentive to continue playing at the end of a quarter, if you think you won't reach the next 40kBP/500€, especially 100kBP/1000€ payouts, and your progress toward those goes to waste.

P.S I'm not really familiar with the new system yet, so if it has been stated that the progress between steps will be paid out in BP or something, then it's obviously all good
With the new system you're earning BP between steps as well as getting the step rewards themselves

Example: From 6 to 6-1 you'll earn up to a total of €204 in BP while you progress through the level (Paid out in 100 BP chunks). If you get 50% of the way between 6 and 6-1 you'll get €102 in BP for example. If you reach 6-1 you get the full €204 + the step reward. The €204 is the equivalent of 12% rb of the rake paid between 6 and 6-1.

The step rewards are obviously still a better reward but it's not the same as the all or nothing rewards in the past. You'll also carry over the multiplier and will be getting 12% rb instead of the 2x/3.5x/4.5x/6.5x when playing between levels 2-5 next Q.
I shouldn't have said the steps remain just as important as before for the sake of accuracy, but essentially still massively important. If you keep playing after level 6-0, and fail to rake 1700€ to reach level 6-1, you'll have missed out on 29.4% of rakeback for that span (the 500€ playthrough bonus). In level 7 the milestones are 3850€ of rake apart. If you fail to reach that, well... For simplicity's sake let's say that you cut your upcoming rakeback down by something like half after you have started playing the last milestone which you won't finish before the quarter ends.

You'll obviously be getting the data about it in the next 3-6 months, but I predict a lot of volume drops in (especially larger stakes) games for weeks at the end of every quarter. Everyone's gonna look at it slightly differently of course, but in my case if I'm at level 7, I'm gonna want at least 2 weeks to feel safe about starting a new milestone, possibly longer. If slightly unsure about reaching a milestone, playing somewhere else with a guaranteed rakeback should be a no-brainer.

That being said, I do predict you'll eventually see it best to have the points in between milestones carry over to the next quarter.

Last edited by Mad Twatter; 09-28-2021 at 06:00 PM.
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09-29-2021 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Twatter
I shouldn't have said the steps remain just as important as before for the sake of accuracy, but essentially still massively important. If you keep playing after level 6-0, and fail to rake 1700€ to reach level 6-1, you'll have missed out on 29.4% of rakeback for that span (the 500€ playthrough bonus). In level 7 the milestones are 3850€ of rake apart. If you fail to reach that, well... For simplicity's sake let's say that you cut your upcoming rakeback down by something like half after you have started playing the last milestone which you won't finish before the quarter ends.

You'll obviously be getting the data about it in the next 3-6 months, but I predict a lot of volume drops in (especially larger stakes) games for weeks at the end of every quarter. Everyone's gonna look at it slightly differently of course, but in my case if I'm at level 7, I'm gonna want at least 2 weeks to feel safe about starting a new milestone, possibly longer. If slightly unsure about reaching a milestone, playing somewhere else with a guaranteed rakeback should be a no-brainer.

That being said, I do predict you'll eventually see it best to have the points in between milestones carry over to the next quarter.
Don't have sufficient data yet, but first indication is that this isn't the case. In fact seems to be the opposite; players are incentivized to grind a bit more, in order to reach the next step, and very few players are in the situation you outline above.
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09-29-2021 , 09:04 AM
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You'll obviously be getting the data about it in the next 3-6 months, but I predict a lot of volume drops in (especially larger stakes) games for weeks at the end of every quarter.
I doubt they get any significant data from this quarterly, given that the flop race promotion is running.
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09-29-2021 , 01:21 PM
Are players from the Netherlands still welcome at Unibet after October 1? I received an email today from the poker site Run It Once that Dutch people are no longer welcome after October 1st. Had also read that Unibet has to wait for a Dutch license...
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09-30-2021 , 05:47 AM
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Are players from the Netherlands still welcome at Unibet after October 1? I received an email today from the poker site Run It Once that Dutch people are no longer welcome after October 1st. Had also read that Unibet has to wait for a Dutch license...
As soon as we have anything to communicate, customers will be informed accordingly. Sure you understand I can't comment on license matters when we're a listed company
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09-30-2021 , 05:49 AM
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I doubt they get any significant data from this quarterly, given that the flop race promotion is running.
HexaPro isn't impacted and I can estimate impact of flop race promo on cash games. Sure, it does complicate things a bit, but we will have very useful data from this quarter.
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09-30-2021 , 08:09 AM
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HexaPro isn't impacted and I can estimate impact of flop race promo on cash games. Sure, it does complicate things a bit, but we will have very useful data from this quarter.
Ok, gotcha. I guess I was blinded by my own perspective of (being a cash game player) lowering my volume to almost nil if it wasn't for the Flop Race promotion (and given that I find myself in the awkward situation of achieving about 70% of the next level without releasing it ).

Last edited by Dubnjoy000; 09-30-2021 at 08:32 AM.
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10-01-2021 , 01:00 AM
Can you tell anything about when poker tickets, bonuspoints etc. will be paid out to Dutch customers? I think you will be gone for a while.... Extremely disappointed in my government , but also very bad communication from Unibet in this matter.
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10-01-2021 , 02:35 AM
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Can you tell anything about when poker tickets, bonuspoints etc. will be paid out to Dutch customers? I think you will be gone for a while.... Extremely disappointed in my government , but also very bad communication from Unibet in this matter.
Hands were tied as this was a decision that affected all products, not just Poker. It was a fast moving issue as well with the latest regulatory changes coming so recently so we had very little info to share before the official announcement.

I would assume a communication will go out today with information regarding the situation.

In terms of payout time, I'd expect it to be today. Stubbe will be able to clarify when everything is converted to cash.

What will happen to my poker bonus and/or tournament tickets?

What will happen to my bonus? If the bonus is an acquisition offer, it’ll be forfeited and no compensation will be issued.

If the bonus isn’t an acquisition offer, you’ll get the remaining value of the bonus paid out in cash.

What will happen to my cash ticket?

We will pay out the current value of the ticket in cash.

What will happen to my tournament ticket?

We will pay out the value of the ticket in cash.

I signed up for a tournament which is being played tomorrow/next week/next month. What will happen?

Please contact our customer service and we will refund the buy-in in cash.
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10-01-2021 , 02:56 AM
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Can you tell anything about when poker tickets, bonuspoints etc. will be paid out to Dutch customers? I think you will be gone for a while.... Extremely disappointed in my government , but also very bad communication from Unibet in this matter.
I'm working on the compensation now.
In regards to the communication, I don't see how it could have been done very different, considering the situation and development in the market. Can't really comment further on the situation here.
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10-01-2021 , 07:42 AM
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Extremely disappointed in my government , but also very bad communication from Unibet in this matter.
Extremely disappointed in your government? Look mate, this hit me like a ton of bricks. Poker is my only source of income and now I'll have to find another place to play without having to change format and concede on some other things, which I think will likely be very difficult. But if you're completely objective about this, it makes a ton of sense for the government to be able to monitor things more carefully - tax evasion is a big problem within the gambling and poker realm - and they're actually legalizing gambling now, which is obviously a positive thing. The most frightening thing that could've happened somewhere down the line is for them to completely shut down online poker, like they've done in the US. At least this is an acknowledgement that we are free in this country to gamble online. It's just really brutal that now we'll have to wait for the poker sites that monopolized the market to get the proper licensing before we'll have a proper place to play at again. You're just disappointed about your own short term prospects, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the law objectively.
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10-01-2021 , 11:55 AM
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Extremely disappointed in your government? Look mate, this hit me like a ton of bricks. Poker is my only source of income and now I'll have to find another place to play without having to change format and concede on some other things, which I think will likely be very difficult. But if you're completely objective about this, it makes a ton of sense for the government to be able to monitor things more carefully - tax evasion is a big problem within the gambling and poker realm - and they're actually legalizing gambling now, which is obviously a positive thing. The most frightening thing that could've happened somewhere down the line is for them to completely shut down online poker, like they've done in the US. At least this is an acknowledgement that we are free in this country to gamble online. It's just really brutal that now we'll have to wait for the poker sites that monopolized the market to get the proper licensing before we'll have a proper place to play at again. You're just disappointed about your own short term prospects, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the law objectively.
I didnt mean legalizing it is a bad thing. It is just that the cooling down period makes absolutely no sense to me. That is why I am extremely disappointed.
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10-01-2021 , 04:53 PM
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I didnt mean legalizing it is a bad thing. It is just that the cooling down period makes absolutely no sense to me. That is why I am extremely disappointed.
That's definitely more fair. Don't quite know what to make of that, you might just be right. There's blame to go around, I think.

Last edited by OG_Tuff; 10-01-2021 at 05:16 PM.
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10-01-2021 , 05:06 PM
@Uni reps

Is there any way you can help out and authorize that (a portion of) bonus points is converted to real cash for the Dutch player base that is affected by the cooling down period you've been subjected to? I understand that somewhere down the line when you've acquired a license we'll be able to use them again, but a significant portion of ones bankroll can be locked up in these bonus points. If they're used to pile up on playthrough bonuses for example. They're effectively our rakeback that we'll now be unable to access for what may very well be half a year. One must think he deserves to at least get to use the couple thousand bonus points left in his account right now, having paid Unibet €36k in rake the past year.

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