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01-22-2019 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mumming
Why not?
I think it can sometimes be the case that they have seen enough to decide, on balance, to boot someone off the site which is completely at their discretion anyway (for example the regulatory regimes have no problem with sites blocking winning sports bettors). That doesn't always mean they have a strong enough case to confiscate client money.
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01-22-2019 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cardporn
hi guys,

according to those bot/collusion problems.
I also noticed some suspicous players at the PLO25 & 50 tables for a couple of weeks now. It's kind of hard to keep track due obv reasons...

Does unibet scan if players run 3rd party programs?
What exactly do the do to prevent botting?

PS: i also think ratholing is a bad thing. i dont mind opening with 50 bb but going south after a win and rejoining is lame
Hi,
We would like to point out that the integrity of our games is of utmost importance to us and we undertake extensive reviews through proactive and automatic detection tools, which makes it likely that players are being detected who are trying to break the rules.

I cannot go into details about those methods we use, as being transparent about those would make us easier exploitable.

I can re-assure you however that we do anything possible to avoid bots/chipdumping/collusion or any other form of breaking the rules.

Of course, having players to report suspicious play is of immense help for us to support our already existing procedures.

So, if you have anything suspicious, please contact CS or PM me and I promise we will follow it up.

The ratholing topic is as mentioned, something that we will discuss internally and decide whether changes are needed in that matter or not.

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Originally Posted by wike_
I guess I should share this one aswell after reading about latest bot/collusion problems. Few weeks back I reported 2-3 accounts playing nl100-200 the exact same strategy at the tables when the pools were around 10-15 players. Each account switched names after about 45mins, reset stacks, used betsizes that you have to type in and acted almost instantly. I've reported bots during 10 years of playing and at this point I'm fairly certain when I spot an obvious one.

I never got a reply back from Unibet and I rather keep my action elsewhere because of accounts like this. It's impossible to keep track of these guys if the pool is big and you can't save any data. I figure I'd share this here so regs can keep their eyes open.
Could you please send me the details of this via PM and I'm happy to have a look into this. I know, that all reports are being forwarded to the relevant department and being checked, not all cases go through me, so I'm happy to have a follow-up look at it.

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Originally Posted by PartyDontCare
I think Unibet have a large number of house bots or/and a rigged RNG. There are alias out there you never see losing one **** pot. Then there also are regs playing who just cant win whatever they do and though they are playing almost perfect. Some say its variance, but not at this point. This is something else. As usual the site, in this case Unibet, dont have to bother because we cant prove it.

The most weird part though is that almost nobody seem to care about this issue. There must be so many break even/small losing regs out there just grinding on with their face stuck in their own ass...
I can just point out again, that we would not benefit at all from this. Poker makes a small percentage of the gross income, the main products are casino and sportsbetting, so risking a whole business to make some extra money through poker does not make any sense to me.

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
I think it can sometimes be the case that they have seen enough to decide, on balance, to boot someone off the site which is completely at their discretion anyway (for example the regulatory regimes have no problem with sites blocking winning sports bettors). That doesn't always mean they have a strong enough case to confiscate client money.
This statement is correct, not every closed account equals the other: closing an account on suspicion without clear evidence, is to our discretion, closing an account and freezing money however has different requirements.
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01-22-2019 , 09:26 AM
I'm going to put this nonsense to bed in under 3 posts.

Patric- If I were to email support and say that I think "janedoe" and "johnsmith" are colluding what is the template email I'd receive if it was deemed they were colluding?
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01-22-2019 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
I'm going to put this nonsense to bed in under 3 posts.

Patric- If I were to email support and say that I think "janedoe" and "johnsmith" are colluding what is the template email I'd receive if it was deemed they were colluding?
We don't have a template for those cases and I don't deny that there is room of improvement how the communication has been made in the past.

I will try my best to improve that process in the future.
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01-22-2019 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetPatric
Hi Martin,
I personally took care of this case and reported it and it has been investigated.
Unfortunately, we really are not allowed to share the results of the investigation, whether they are positive or negative due to data protection regulations, this is not something that is in our control
Again, can you link me to these regulations?
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01-22-2019 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetPatric
We don't have a template for those cases and I don't deny that there is room of improvement how the communication has been made in the past.

I will try my best to improve that process in the future.
Other sites like Stars whom have similar data protection rules in place will state player Janedoe and johnsmith were colluding and are banned. With an anonymous site this should be no problem for Unibet.

The nightmare that every site faces is an official list a colluder thread where people who made the complaint post the screen names of the offenders and offer game type and stakes on a forum like this.
Then other players would review hand histories that they played with the confirmed colluders and Unibet or any site would be out a lot of money and time.
The original complainent is better compensated then other victims in this business.
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01-22-2019 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin


Hi Patric, are you allowed to play on Unibet while on holiday in Portugal, if the account is already registered from Ireland?
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Originally Posted by UnibetPatric


Yes, that is totally fine
Great thanks, same question for Belgium?
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01-23-2019 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mullion
Again, can you link me to these regulations?
I will look into this and get back to you as soon as possible.

I agree that communication in these cases could and should be improved and is something else I will look into.

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Originally Posted by sirin
Great thanks, same question for Belgium?
Belgium works fine, in Europe the only country that really is blacklisted is Turkey as far as I know.
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01-23-2019 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
Other sites like Stars whom have similar data protection rules in place will state player Janedoe and johnsmith were colluding and are banned. With an anonymous site this should be no problem for Unibet.



The nightmare that every site faces is an official list a colluder thread where people who made the complaint post the screen names of the offenders and offer game type and stakes on a forum like this.

Then other players would review hand histories that they played with the confirmed colluders and Unibet or any site would be out a lot of money and time.

The original complainent is better compensated then other victims in this business.
That is possible at site where HUD is allowed.That's why Stars is still the best place to play safe. Everyone can complain about bots or rigged RNG or whatever...but HM2 stats r there to confirm or deny.It is simple.At Unibet all that process is complicated.
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01-23-2019 , 09:23 PM
Are the servers down now?
When I try to login it says: Unable to identify your location. Access declined.

I was in the middle of the session and got thrown out. Any compensation?
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01-23-2019 , 09:25 PM
Same here. From Hungary.
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01-23-2019 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SirMario
Are the servers down now?
When I try to login it says: Unable to identify your location. Access declined.

I was in the middle of the session and got thrown out. Any compensation?
same stuff here in Romania, was in a middle of a sesh, it disconnected and now i get same message and the software client wont open....sigh, it seems it's still glitchyAF
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01-23-2019 , 09:39 PM
Yeah same here unable to identify location
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01-23-2019 , 09:40 PM
UK btw
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01-23-2019 , 09:42 PM
And in NL...
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01-23-2019 , 10:16 PM
Support says:

We are experiencing some technical issues on the site at the moment. 
Our technical team is working on it to fix it at the moment however we don't have specific time frame when that will happen.
Please check the access later on.
The outcomes, stakes refunds etc will be decided due course. 
I am really sorry for the inconvenience caused.
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01-23-2019 , 11:49 PM
Same here..
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01-23-2019 , 11:52 PM
Unable to identify your location. Access declined.
From Thailand.
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01-24-2019 , 12:48 AM
I was sat at a couple of cash tables and sngs. Will I be refunded for the sngs? Also the money I had at the cash tables hasn't went back into my main account?
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01-24-2019 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LFC4ME
I was sat at a couple of cash tables and sngs. Will I be refunded for the sngs? Also the money I had at the cash tables hasn't went back into my main account?
The answer to your question is literally 3 posts above yours.
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01-24-2019 , 12:53 AM
Just thought it was weird that the balance from the cash tables wasn't automatically added back to my main balance once I got kicked off
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01-24-2019 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SirMario
Are the servers down now?
When I try to login it says: Unable to identify your location. Access declined.

I was in the middle of the session and got thrown out. Any compensation?
Hey all,
we had indeed last night a bigger server issue which has been fixed.

We had some cash game stakes stuck, this should be fixed now too.

Some tournaments/SNGs/HexaPro's had to be cancelled, unfortunately there were some issues too, so if you only received a refund but should have received more according to our tournament cancellation policy, please don't worry, you will get your money.

There is a bit of manual work involved but we try to fix everything as fast as possible and pay out the correct amounts where it wasn't.

If you have any other issues or questions, feel free to PM me.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Thanks
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01-24-2019 , 10:10 AM
Refunds were ready and waiting when I logged in.

Couple of small issues Patric;
When using fast fold I still get the "attention" beep -seems unnecessarily distracting.
In the Hexapro's I think it's a bit strange to have the prizepool being covered by the board. (though not sure where I'd put it)
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01-24-2019 , 12:30 PM
Just a bug that I encountered a week or so ago on one sng table. Every few hands there was no fold button. Was Unibet trying to tell me sth? )
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01-24-2019 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AmonRaa
Just a bug that I encountered a week or so ago on one sng table. Every few hands there was no fold button. Was Unibet trying to tell me sth? )
https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/B...n/idi-p/195232

If you can add any info (Rough times of hands, player alias) to the link above it might help them squash that bug.
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