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04-14-2015 , 08:04 PM
I love the idea behind SwC but this software is crap. It's very clearly in an Alpha state and we're all testing it for them for free. How can we be sure it's even secure?

Obviously the shutdown/raid on the old site prompted a quick push over to 2.0 software but I feel like they should have waited until it was stable. Not that Mavens was miles ahead anyways.
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04-14-2015 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EndTheFed
After seeing other people have trouble I was prepared for the worst but it actually worked for me.

It's probably dependent on which Windows version you have...
You're lucky. I'm jealous that you get to play poker today.

You're probably right about the second line though. Much like our Tralfamadorian friend a few posts back, I'm running on WinXPpro.

I heard from support at about 1130am est, but nothing since then.
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04-14-2015 , 09:00 PM
I uninstalled, downloaded the new swcsetup.exe and said "Yes" when it asked if I wanted to overwrite the previous installation. I'm now back online.

I agree this is pretty ****.
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04-15-2015 , 08:23 AM
It is still broken and no answer from support. Either they are in denial or incompetent.
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04-15-2015 , 11:37 AM
After quite a bit of searching I found this.

https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...orum=vcgeneral

Winsock2 error: The procedure entry point XXXX cold not be located in (...) WS2_32.dll

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When you target old operating systems, it is important that you set the _WIN32_WINNT macro value correctly. Use 0x501 for XP. That will then produce a compile error, inet_ntop() is only available on Vista. You could consider inet_ntoa().
So apparently the upgrade has left XP users out in the cold. Though it sounds easy enough to fix (from a non-coder's point of view) if they cared enough to do it.
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04-15-2015 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ronmon

So apparently the upgrade has left XP users out in the cold. Though it sounds easy enough to fix (from a non-coder's point of view) if they cared enough to do it.
Thanks, but I have no idea what to do from here. Do I have to reformat with a different operating system?
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04-15-2015 , 12:02 PM
I did an uninstall, download, and re-install, and I am not having any problem logging in.
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04-15-2015 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by effit
I love the idea behind SwC but this software is crap. It's very clearly in an Alpha state and we're all testing it for them for free. How can we be sure it's even secure?
You are PAYING to test the software.
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04-15-2015 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by VP$IP
I did an uninstall, download, and re-install, and I am not having any problem logging in.
Worked for me also, however now no settings save and re-set each time I log out, i.e table themes
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04-15-2015 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by VP$IP
I did an uninstall, download, and re-install, and I am not having any problem logging in.
same; I'm completely not tech savvy but after doing the aforementioned and deleting the program files (86 whatever that means) and then restarting, things are running better than they ever have for me before.

It was good enough for me to just get in 45 mins of 200/400 without even the slightest lag so I'm happy. /cool story
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04-15-2015 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OditeRussia
Worked for me also, however now no settings save and re-set each time I log out, i.e table themes
Hmm, all of my settings stay saved except that the clock resets to UTC time.

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same; I'm completely not tech savvy but after doing the aforementioned and deleting the program files (86 whatever that means) and then restarting, things are running better than they ever have for me before.

It was good enough for me to just get in 45 mins of 200/400 without even the slightest lag so I'm happy. /cool story
Yeah, so far since the update it's run really smoothly and without issues for me. If that continues they should be able to start adding a tournament schedule.

Sucks that not everyone is able to get on though. From the number of logins it looks like about 25% of people are missing.

I'm also not very tech savvy but I'll try to hook up my old XP PC later and see how it goes on there.
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04-16-2015 , 04:01 AM
I sit down online and play two tables of pot limit big 0. I get stacked with A2346 pf vs AA and then lose a big pot with low + wrap + fd vs top set. I don't get half pot in second and realize its hi. Am I a moron for assuming big O is always plo8 like it is at wsop.

I haven't been able to play on starts or other sites where 5 card omaha hi is offered, so my experience only limited to wsop games and other live games where big0 has been 5 card plo8 100% of the time
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04-16-2015 , 05:06 AM
PS doesn't call it "Big O" but just "Pot Limit 5 Card Omaha" and "Pot Limit 5 Card Omaha Hi/Lo". I don't play it, but currently all running tables are "Hi only" - so it seems popular enough. Also, to be fair SWC has:
- PL Big O
- PL Big O/8

But yeh unlucky mistake :P
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04-16-2015 , 05:37 AM
Yeah, I can't play Stars either but Big O is popular in the local cardrooms here... and they label it the same as SwC. "Big O" for hi and "Big O/8" for hi/lo.

I think SwC only had O/8 tables open at first, but then people requested Big O hi also.

But without being around the hi version it's understandable that you'd assume it was hi/lo. Maybe they can and "hi" to the table to make it clear.
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04-16-2015 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EndTheFed

I think SwC only had O/8 tables open at first, but then people requested Big O hi also.
thats the other problem, Ive played it in the past on seals and it was always o8, I didn't even think they had 5 card hi tables so I didn't even think twice.
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04-16-2015 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
I sit down online and play two tables of pot limit big 0. I get stacked with A2346 pf vs AA and then lose a big pot with low + wrap + fd vs top set. I don't get half pot in second and realize its hi. Am I a moron for assuming big O is always plo8 like it is at wsop.

I haven't been able to play on starts or other sites where 5 card omaha hi is offered, so my experience only limited to wsop games and other live games where big0 has been 5 card plo8 100% of the time
lol I did the same thing last night

Just assumed Big O was always H/L

It should be called 5 card PLO or something
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04-16-2015 , 11:37 AM
The software and connectivity issues could improve but if you like games other than hold'em it is a very good site.

And there are some real action characters too.

I enjoy playing there. I'm in NJ and play this instead of their online poker.
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04-16-2015 , 03:45 PM
So I've been confused about something after following this thread a bit. Maybe the games mentioned above are part of the answer.

Given the number of crashes and glitches described, why aren't you guys sitting back and waiting for them to resolve some of the issues?

Selection of games? Good action? Because you want to support BTC? Can't play on most other sites?

Or is the software running fine for some people?

Just seems like it'd be super stressful to have significant funds on there right now until they resolve some of this.
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04-16-2015 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OnMyBike
So I've been confused about something after following this thread a bit. Maybe the games mentioned above are part of the answer.

Given the number of crashes and glitches described, why aren't you guys sitting back and waiting for them to resolve some of the issues?

Selection of games? Good action? Because you want to support BTC? Can't play on most other sites?

Or is the software running fine for some people?

Just seems like it'd be super stressful to have significant funds on there right now until they resolve some of this.
It's not that bad for me. Sometimes I need to log off and log back on. The only real risk is that you disco in the middle of a hand. Doesn't happen that often though.

In the US, you can't play a 12 game mix anywhere else. Or Big O. Or the draw games. If you play hold'em or tourneys this is not a site for you. But if you like different games it is.

The action is pretty good.
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04-16-2015 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by OnMyBike
So I've been confused about something after following this thread a bit. Maybe the games mentioned above are part of the answer.

Given the number of crashes and glitches described, why aren't you guys sitting back and waiting for them to resolve some of the issues?

Selection of games? Good action? Because you want to support BTC? Can't play on most other sites?

Or is the software running fine for some people?

Just seems like it'd be super stressful to have significant funds on there right now until they resolve some of this.
Some of the problems affect a subset of the players, and not everyone. There was a lack of sound problem that affected me on one computer, but not on another. The disconnection problems did not affect everyone equally. But if the problems became more widespread, sometimes everyone had to download and re-install.

I play there to have access to players who originate from the Bitcoin world. They have a noticeably different style than a PokerStars grinder, for example. There are some nits, but is is not uncommon to be the beneficiary of some completely unjustified calls. The low rake also allows less-experienced players to get more play before re-depositing. The site has potential.
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04-16-2015 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OnMyBike
So I've been confused about something after following this thread a bit. Maybe the games mentioned above are part of the answer.

Given the number of crashes and glitches described, why aren't you guys sitting back and waiting for them to resolve some of the issues?

Selection of games? Good action? Because you want to support BTC? Can't play on most other sites?

Or is the software running fine for some people?

Just seems like it'd be super stressful to have significant funds on there right now until they resolve some of this.
Like a couple guys above me said, if you like mixed and draw games, but live in the US, there is no other place to play. Besides, the quality of action on SwC is great imo. I also made a withdrawal of 5 bitcoins (roughly $1200 at the time) from the new site with no issues and turned it into US dollars. I had the cash in my bank account in just over 3 days.

Maybe I'm lucky, but I haven't had any of the connectivity issues that a lot of people are complaining about.

- Naked
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04-16-2015 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OnMyBike
So I've been confused about something after following this thread a bit. Maybe the games mentioned above are part of the answer.

Given the number of crashes and glitches described, why aren't you guys sitting back and waiting for them to resolve some of the issues?

Selection of games? Good action? Because you want to support BTC? Can't play on most other sites?

Or is the software running fine for some people?

Just seems like it'd be super stressful to have significant funds on there right now until they resolve some of this.
Yeah, I guess I've been fortunate also because overall it hasn't been that bad for me - not bad enough that it wouldn't be worth playing on at all. There have been times where the client crashed but it launches again really quickly so I was able to keep playing.

A few times the site as a whole would lag or disconnect while playing and I'd quit for awhile. But I knew that if we ever lost any chips because of it we'd get them back.

Since the most recent update though I still haven't had any lag/disconnects/crashes and haven't seen any sitewide issues either.

I play there for the reasons you mentioned. And because of the really low rake, quick withdrawals, and the software. Other than the bugs being worked out with connectivity the software itself is awesome.

And the cool thing about bitcoin is that you don't have to hold significant funds there. You can deposit, play and withdraw every time if you want. Another reason why I prefer it over the other sites available in the US.
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04-16-2015 , 06:36 PM
Also, they posted a software update this morning that fixes the XP problem. If you're running it in a VM you will probably have to use Bridged Networking too.
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04-16-2015 , 09:02 PM
Cool thanks for the answers. Glad to hear the problems aren't affecting everyone as severely!
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04-17-2015 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ronmon
Also, they posted a software update this morning that fixes the XP problem. If you're running it in a VM you will probably have to use Bridged Networking too.
And it fixes the clock from resetting to UTC every time you log in.
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