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02-08-2019 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Can anyone confirm if notes carry over? If I add a note to Bob B one one table and end up playing with them again as Tom H, will my notes be there?
notes should be there for 4hrs and then reset

something I'm not sure off, nor been paying attention - if a player sits down at 2(or more) different tables at the same time is their name the same on both tables?
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02-08-2019 , 03:54 PM
Please can you save deposit info!
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02-08-2019 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by hvete
Why isn't the timebank activated automatically preflop anyway? Is it by design?
timebank is activated whenever you put money into the pot i think.
I'm guessing its by design so the play wont slow down preflop.
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02-08-2019 , 04:09 PM
Timebank doesn't auto activate preflop to prevent someone from stepping away from their computer and then when they come back the timebanks are gone on all their tables
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02-08-2019 , 04:13 PM
A poster earlier pointed out that STP won't work as is with limit games--when they arrive--and I agree. One idea might be to ramp up the betting structure a bit; something like this (using limit holdem for the example):

Usual betting structure .5/.5/1/1
2BB Splash -> .5/1/1/1
4BB Splash -> .5/1/1/2
6BB Splash -> .5/1/2/2
10B Splash -> .5/1/2/4
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02-08-2019 , 05:01 PM
tried streaming for the last hour. 4 tabling 50-1 NL.... 0 viewers...

Very hard to get viewers from starting afresh. Shame there is no way to put RIO streamers in their own section

Stopped now as the tables keep crashing on me

Last edited by OFA; 02-08-2019 at 05:11 PM.
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02-08-2019 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by OFA
tried streaming for the last hour. 4 tabling 50-1 NL.... 0 viewers...

Very hard to get viewers from starting afresh. Shame there is no way to put RIO streamers in their own section
Join the RIO discord: https://discord.gg/mKzdz8y

There are a lot of streamers who help each other out, should help you get some initial traction
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02-08-2019 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IamLonga
Hi Phil. Congrats on a successful launch!
Best luck!
Absolutely. What a milestone!

Weary of mainstream sites somehow, I happily gave RIOPbeta a try today and wasn't disappointed. Was able to download, create account, deposit (Neteller) and hit tables in less than 10 minutes.

The Client is very user friendly and ran smoothly during my 2hr 4tabling session. During play I could easily adjust the handy betslider and hotkeys.

The built in Dynamic Avatars are a fantastic inovation, as well as the Splash Pots, which bring extra fun dynamics into play and makes it an overall great experiment to play on RIOP. Also props to the Self-Exclusion and Time Out option. Very much needed for an highly addictive game.

I will definately come back in the future as a meanwhile recreational player,
although I could only spot one whale and no limpers at the lowest limit during play! Everyone solid I guess.

For the future I would love to see extended chat options,
more avatars (female avatar definately missing ), percentages on all-in situations, nl10 as an option and an extended show cards time at showdown.

Game on!

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02-08-2019 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenLineWarrior
timebank is activated whenever you put money into the pot i think.
I'm guessing its by design so the play wont slow down preflop.
Exactly right. This was more of an MTT decision (which we don't have yet). We might be up for changing plans if most people prefer auto-activate always.

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Join the RIO discord: https://discord.gg/mKzdz8y

There are a lot of streamers who help each other out, should help you get some initial traction
Yes! All of the streamRs on discord so far have been able to sustain some viewers, and they've all been really helpful to each other, MikeTHEBOSS included

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Originally Posted by hankat
Absolutely. What a milestone!

Weary of mainstream sites somehow, I happily gave RIOPbeta a try today and wasn't disappointed. Was able to download, create account, deposit (Neteller) and hit tables in less than 10 minutes.

The Client is very user friendly and ran smoothly during my 2hr 4tabling session. During play I could easily adjust the handy betslider and hotkeys.

The built in Dynamic Avatars are a fantastic inovation, as well as the Splash Pots, which bring extra fun dynamics into play and makes it an overall great experiment to play on RIOP. Also props to the Self-Exclusion and Time Out option. Very much needed for an highly addictive game.

I will definately come back in the future as a meanwhile recreational player,
although I could only spot one whale and no limpers at the lowest limit during play! Everyone solid I guess.

For the future I would love to see extended chat options,
more avatars (female avatar definately missing ), percentages on all-in situations, nl10 as an option and an extended show cards time at showdown.

Game on!
Thank you!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Female avatars, nl10, and extended showdowns are coming in the not-so-distant future. Chat options and percentages are both being considered, but won't be right around the corner.

Keep me posted on how you're enjoying the site!
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02-08-2019 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeTHEBOSS
Join the RIO discord: https://discord.gg/mKzdz8y

There are a lot of streamers who help each other out, should help you get some initial traction
Done Thanks
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02-08-2019 , 06:49 PM
cant play because of theses crashes unfortunately
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02-08-2019 , 07:02 PM
I really really think you need to fix how you award your splash pots.

A player shouldnt be able to open jam $422 on a 1/2 plo hand. hes able to now because technically theres 2k in the pot, but this is terrible. The raise should certainly be $7.
The players should decide how much they really want to gamble., and strategize how to push people out of the pot.

When you notice you got lucky enough to get in a splash pot you shouldnt be in a position where it could wreck you. What i mean is, what if theres 3 recs on the table with 93 dollars 194 dollars and 662 dollars. What if thats all the money they have? They all now will degen stick it in and try to win the 2k which is the longterm smart thing we know that, but you are a big dog to get it. Forcing these types of players into making a +ev gamble can leave a sour feeling if it puts someone broke and cant play anymore.

Maybe make it where the players cant lose what they bought in the table for? i dont know. I jsut think having 5 unhappy players and one really happy player is bad for the game, and im guessing the tables instantly break when this hand is over. Im curious to see if im right on that
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02-08-2019 , 07:19 PM
Feel like a minor shill with few posts and some already saying positive things about the site but obv not.

I've probably played some of the most hands out of people so far since launch on NL and PLO - overall I am very pleased with the site.

Random thoughts so far:

I think it's really key to keep things simple and at the moment things are simple. Please consider when regs and winning players are asking for in depth implementations that ultimately allow them to make easy money by having the software do everything for them, it hugely decreases the enjoyment for recreational players like myself.

Examples, such as allowing bet sizes of 33.55% or 78.21% like on Stars. This is not good for recreational players. They don't want to play against people who have hotkeys and preset buttons for every situation. They want everyone to be able to have to think and bet a small range of simple amounts like 25%, 50% and 75%.

One minute you can have a fun website and a level playing field and the next minute you have enabled the regs and winners to sit back and continue to multi table in a brain dead fashion. If someone wants to bet 61.67% then make them type it in manually. This might sound crazy but I truly believe small factors like this are a slippery slope and really important.

Look at the chinese apps like Pokermaster, which I have also played on quite a lot. This site is very simple - and it works. There are lots of fish and a good ratio of recs to regs and there is no platform upon which the players have access to suggest improvements to the owner. If you can imagine if all of a sudden on Pokermaster you could do everything you could on Pokerstars overnight, such as mass tabling, hotkeys, HUDs, seat selection, zoom poker, bumhunting, screen names, tracking sites, millions of different games and stakes options which ultimately make the lobby look empty and dead (action creates action, not hundreds of players sat alone waiting for fish), a boring rakeback system that only benefits pros and grinders (I absolutely love splash the pot, well done!), ability to buy in with any random amounts (if it's 100bb it's 100bb and it's tough **** if you don't like it you get used to it or don't play if you're that bothered), long time banks.... then overnight Pokermaster would be dead. The reason is such a popular lesser known site is because of it's individuality and querks that make is stand out from Pokerstars.

I am not going to write anymore right now because already getting long, however, to summarise, I think it's worth seriously considering adding in too many options as it will make the games too easy for regs and less fun for recs.

If you want millions of eastern european and russian reg bots to join and play and destroy the site then all you need to do is follow suit to some of Pokerstars methods listed above and listen to the ideas of people who only want things implemented that will benefit themselves to make more money. Limiting options will always keep the playing field more even and more fun.

Only issues so far are things that are already minor bugs listed, everything else is great so far and of course while I say too much is bad, there is obviously room for a hell of a lot more all I am saying is please be careful.

Rambles over, really hope the sites a success and wish you all the best with it.
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02-08-2019 , 07:33 PM
You really need to sort a payment method for UK players that doesn't involve debit card fees. I've just looked at my bank statement and had £8.41 worth of fees on a 300e deposit which is really, really bad and will definitely put people off.
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02-08-2019 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WhatsUpGuys
I really really think you need to fix how you award your splash pots.

A player shouldnt be able to open jam $422 on a 1/2 plo hand. hes able to now because technically theres 2k in the pot, but this is terrible. The raise should certainly be $7.
The players should decide how much they really want to gamble., and strategize how to push people out of the pot.

When you notice you got lucky enough to get in a splash pot you shouldnt be in a position where it could wreck you. What i mean is, what if theres 3 recs on the table with 93 dollars 194 dollars and 662 dollars. What if thats all the money they have? They all now will degen stick it in and try to win the 2k which is the longterm smart thing we know that, but you are a big dog to get it. Forcing these types of players into making a +ev gamble can leave a sour feeling if it puts someone broke and cant play anymore.

Maybe make it where the players cant lose what they bought in the table for? i dont know. I jsut think having 5 unhappy players and one really happy player is bad for the game, and im guessing the tables instantly break when this hand is over. Im curious to see if im right on that

Well explained I think that is the right move as well and I don't even play PLO
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02-08-2019 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by babaloos
Well explained I think that is the right move as well and I don't even play PLO
Honest feedback, made a deposit today...
As a recreational player I am not really enjoying the splashed pot so far. (Maybe because in the few hours Ive played ive gotten hands not worth getting involved) but I do feel like the dynamic changes A LOT, and it turns into degen pre flop flipping which kind of feels like a pokerstars move.

Best of luck!
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02-08-2019 , 10:43 PM
The majority of splashes - the small ones - don't force the hand to be a flip, but they do make the stacks effectively shallower and the stakes effectively higher, but playing shallow in a small minority of hands is still better than having 4-5 reg opponents at the table...
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02-09-2019 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil Galfond
Thank you!! I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Female avatars, nl10, and extended showdowns are coming in the not-so-distant future. Chat options and percentages are both being considered, but won't be right around the corner.

Keep me posted on how you're enjoying the site!
You are welcome! During my second session at RIOP I noticed 2 flaws:

- I got timed out, which was followed by a sit out. So far, so good, but I wasn't able to rejoin the game with a rejoin button. So I had to close the table and start a new one.

- I was having a break on all tables. Clicked the at this time available rejoin button,
but then my BB was posted immediately, which I didn't like.

Keep up the good work!
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02-09-2019 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hankat
You are welcome! During my second session at RIOP I noticed 2 flaws:

- I got timed out, which was followed by a sit out. So far, so good, but I wasn't able to rejoin the game with a rejoin button. So I had to close the table and start a new one.

- I was having a break on all tables. Clicked the at this time available rejoin button,
but then my BB was posted immediately, which I didn't like.

Keep up the good work!
They know both of these bugs and are working on them, here is list of known issues: https://help.runitonce.eu/kb/known-issues-beta/
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02-09-2019 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatsUpGuys
I really really think you need to fix how you award your splash pots.
Is it possible to make the splash seperate from the main pot so the game plays normally instead of the mandatory flip here and there? I don't mind it but I get it that it sucks especially if you are playing deep and a big splash appears. And a rec with a big stack losing the flip and going busto might not even come back after that.

E Now you really can't play for the big splash you need to flip for it. I would rather play for it.

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02-09-2019 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatsUpGuys
I really really think you need to fix how you award your splash pots.

A player shouldnt be able to open jam $422 on a 1/2 plo hand. hes able to now because technically theres 2k in the pot, but this is terrible. The raise should certainly be $7.

I'm curious to hear what Galfond has to say about this, since I'm sure there has been a discussion about it among the staff. This would decrease variance for recs with shallow bankrolls and allow for more play and more mistakes to be made - although you should still go broke if you have any sort of equity, I'm sure more bad folds will be made.
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02-09-2019 , 07:29 AM
Open jamming 422 into a 2k pot saves time. It would just go pot pot pot pot pot anyway....
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02-09-2019 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
Open jamming 422 into a 2k pot saves time. It would just go pot pot pot pot pot anyway....
Or it just might go raise callcallcallcallcall if there are players who are deep and don't want to flip preflop.
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02-09-2019 , 07:47 AM
Hi Phil,

now i've had some more time to play, i'd like to give you my thoughts and feedback.

Firstly great job, the client is honestly great. Feels like old school full tilt, looks nice etc.

I've been playing PLO10, having loads of fun with the splash pots and grinding out that depost bonus (admittedly only £20, but no problem!, its great!)

It would be nice if your card details etc were saved, so you only had to enter your security code when you deposited. At present you have to re enter all your details.

Secondly, my surname is double barrelled, it doesn't let me enter a - character on sign up or in my bank details!

I'm sure you've had this already, but the replayer needs to be image based, the text is too difficult to see.

Finally, the limits are rather sparse. 10PLO > 50 PLO is a huge jump, as is 4NL to 20NL. Although obivously it's just BETA thought i'd point it out.

THank you for doing a great job for the poker community Phil, it's super appreciated and once tournaments are available here, I can't imagine playing anywhere else!
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