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09-30-2018 , 12:45 AM
Whats a good emulator where you can open it more than once
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09-30-2018 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thisisjimmybruv
Whats a good emulator where you can open it more than once
http://en.ldmnq.com/

Best one for all Asian apps including PPP
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09-30-2018 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by preki
anyone else have trouble with their pc app? i can't get it to run and i can't uninstall it.
had an uninstalling problem before, solved it like this

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=177
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09-30-2018 , 08:45 AM
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anyone else have trouble with their pc app? i can't get it to run and i can't uninstall it.
try a refresh. you may lose a lot of data specifically downloaded programs.
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09-30-2018 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by IamLonga
http://en.ldmnq.com/

Best one for all Asian apps including PPP
Hey even with this one still cannot bypass the 'you have reached the maximum number of devices' notice right?
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10-01-2018 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kamuz
Hey even with this one still cannot bypass the 'you have reached the maximum number of devices' notice right?
Wrong. You will run into an issue with multi-registration prohibited, because that is based on IP, but you can get around that by using phones to make accounts.
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10-03-2018 , 12:05 PM
Hi all,

Ill give a brief summary of my poker history before I go into this to hopefully help with credibility.

I've been playing online poker professionally for 12 years now. I've played on loads of sites and over this period and have around $1.5 million in earnings. In all of this time I have cried "super user" once and it was shown to be so. Link is here https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...users-1357549/

I've played on PPPoker for around 2 years and have made $150k-ish there. During a lot of that period PPP has been my best site so I really really didn't want to believe what I was beginning to suspect was happening there.

A couple of weeks ago I was playing HU with someone (new account with only 200 hands or so) with pf stats around 55/10 (sweet right!?). A few hands into the match I 3b with 47s. Flop comes 36Tr. I cbet 1/3 and villain calls. Turn is Q and I bet 2/3 pot and villain calls. River is an A. I make pot sized river shove with my busted gutter on an incredibly strong board for my range obviously and villain calls me for the win with J2 off.

With that hand and his stats I still think its possible that he is a whale or misread or misclicked so we proceed to play for another 15 minutes or so and he proceeds to never make a river "mistake" for the remainder of the game. IE he never calls with a worse hand and always calls when I'm bluffing. He does not however try to run me over when I have medium or weakish hands (doesn't try to bluff me off of A hi when he has K hi) or get maximum value out of hands like he could.

I told my affiliate about this and he started watching the game as well but the guy left shortly after as I continued to play, praying for any sign that villain is NOT a super user. Right after he leaves another new account with only a 100 or so hands sits me with similar stats and proceeds to play the same way for a short period and then leave. This happened one or two more times that day. Ill add that it is easy and common to have multiple accounts here.

My affiliate reported my experience to the club (King poker ***) and I hoped to hear back something although I was skeptical if I would ever really be able to trust it fully again no matter what happened from there.

Despite that I continued to play there afterwards and play resumed to "normal" for a couple of weeks until very recently when a couple of new accounts popped up playing in the same manner and without making "mistakes".

They are fairly passive, distinctive (easy for me to pick out) and by no means maximizing there alleged super user abilities so when I've suspected an account I have played longer than I should have (hoping for proof one way or another) but haven't had to lose a ton to them. I'm maybe down 4 or 5k to them and we are playing 1-2k-ish games.

Just like in the Play2B situation linked above, I don't really suspect anything to come of this. At least in the other case I could present hand histories and combine them with other players who had played with the same villains. On pppoker I've never used any software and they don't store the hand histories AFAIK. I'm just putting this out as a warning to others and if you have had similar experiences please share or pm me here. Gl all

*** Just wanted to note that the club is "kingpower" not "king poker".

Last edited by Mike Haven; 10-03-2018 at 04:36 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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10-03-2018 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by druidfluid
While all of these things are true imo, my situation is slightly more complicated and there is zero chance of getting my money back. I don't really feel comfortable saying much more than that.

I'm still feel all but certain that our original assumptions were correct. I hope that some of the others can have their funds returned but even in that case, if you follow the withdrawal threads, no one is really getting money off.

Obviously I'd highly recommend not playing there. Best of luck to everyone who was pushed into this mess.
I read that whole thread and you ended it with the quote above. That was so unsatisfying. What happened in the end? Why didn't you feel comfortable saying more than that?
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10-03-2018 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I read that whole thread and you ended it with the quote above. That was so unsatisfying. What happened in the end? Why didn't you feel comfortable saying more than that?


The others had signed non disclosure statements in the hopes of getting their money back and I didn’t want to possibly mess that up for them. There is no hope now though so I’m fine to say .


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10-03-2018 , 09:47 PM
I figured you did as well, but you didn't want to say it. So who do you think was behind it, the company or some hackers?
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10-03-2018 , 11:09 PM
are you playing on a computer?

maybe youre hacked?
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10-04-2018 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I figured you did as well, but you didn't want to say it. So who do you think was behind it, the company or some hackers?
I can't say for sure but I strongly it was someone from the company. They were going bust.

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are you playing on a computer?

maybe youre hacked?
Hmmm I am playing from comp and hadn't considered that. I have watched them play others for at least short periods though and they seemed to play the same vs everyone.
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10-05-2018 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by IamLonga
http://en.ldmnq.com/

Best one for all Asian apps including PPP
Been using LDplayer to run multiple games. Seems to be working okay by creating new players to run more games. Kind of new to this though...

What does "clone player" do? And will clicking on the "With smaller disk" box reduce the strain on my CPU?
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10-05-2018 , 07:51 PM
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What does "clone player" do?
Clones the player.
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10-06-2018 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
Clones the player.
So doing that would not be what we want then right? I've just been making new players for each extra table.
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10-06-2018 , 07:49 AM
I start 3 clients directly on PC and add one with the emulator, that's likely to use less CPU than 4 times the emulator. It's the first week I use the emulator and it's working well, I like it. Using the HUD on the emulator table is working fine too.
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10-08-2018 , 02:53 PM
It all depends on the club you're in and the level of trust you have with the agent. When I first downloaded and joined a club run by some local guys the room was dead and zero games ran except when it was planned. Then the club joined a union and games were non-stop and very soft. I think collusion is very possible and likely, I usually leave a table if multiple people from the same club are at my table as I feel its more likely they either soft play or collude.
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10-09-2018 , 09:19 PM
Is there a sub forum where people can advertise their pppoker club? Or is that not allowed? Thanks
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10-10-2018 , 03:39 AM
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Is there a sub forum where people can advertise their pppoker club? Or is that not allowed? Thanks
No. No spam of any kind is permitted.

Please contact Advertising if you wish to consider promoting it legitimately.

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10-11-2018 , 07:05 AM
I haven’t tried it yet, because I read some review where it was stated that this app isn’t available on mac. However, I heard that it works ok on IOS. But here comes another disadvantage: you can play only one table at a time only there. But, according to review, there are also a lot of advantages. So, honestly, I’m still hesitating.
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10-13-2018 , 08:31 PM
I played for 3 Weeks in 2 diffrent US-Clubs on the site.

I am playing Online Poker since 6 years, NL&PLO beat every site Medstakes.

Never saw anything like it. You hit nuts far to often and villains have nuts far to often as well. Also if you see other people play its insane how often they backdoor sth. or both improve. (f.e. rivers which give someone topset other guy hits a gutshot...).
I play NL/PL mainly 1k but also 400 and 600.

+ Also feels like worse hand is winning too often. But this might be sick variance. I just got 20k hands or sth like that. + I am also up a solid amount so I am not writing this out of anger...

I am 100% sure that sth is wrong on this site. The RNG is for sure not working correctly.

I just quit my session one of the last PLO hands was flop A J x villain 1: AAQ4 vs villain 2: JT55 turn K river dealt 2x Q and Q also not very likely....its under 3% two times villain 2 hits and scoops it...

Anyone has similare experiences!?
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10-13-2018 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kade1988
I played for 3 Weeks in 2 diffrent US-Clubs on the site.

I am playing Online Poker since 6 years, NL&PLO beat every site Medstakes.

Never saw anything like it. You hit nuts far to often and villains have nuts far to often as well. Also if you see other people play its insane how often they backdoor sth. or both improve. (f.e. rivers which give someone topset other guy hits a gutshot...).
I play NL/PL mainly 1k but also 400 and 600.

+ Also feels like worse hand is winning too often. But this might be sick variance. I just got 20k hands or sth like that. + I am also up a solid amount so I am not writing this out of anger...

I am 100% sure that sth is wrong on this site. The RNG is for sure not working correctly.

I just quit my session one of the last PLO hands was flop A J x villain 1: AAQ4 vs villain 2: JT55 turn K river dealt 2x Q and Q also not very likely....its under 3% two times villain 2 hits and scoops it...

Anyone has similare experiences!?
Yes. I have seen stuff way way way way diff than other US facing sites.

I’ve hit about 4-5 straight flushes on PLO and 2-3 royals. Only in about 30k hands.

Not sure what my amount played on ACR was in the day, but never hit a single one.

Have had my share of stupid beats 2 outer , run it twice. He hits both times.
Always makes me wonder.

Assuming it is legit, it’s by far the best option to play IMO
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10-13-2018 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kade1988
I played for 3 Weeks in 2 diffrent US-Clubs on the site.

I am playing Online Poker since 6 years, NL&PLO beat every site Medstakes.

Never saw anything like it. You hit nuts far to often and villains have nuts far to often as well. Also if you see other people play its insane how often they backdoor sth. or both improve. (f.e. rivers which give someone topset other guy hits a gutshot...).
I play NL/PL mainly 1k but also 400 and 600.

+ Also feels like worse hand is winning too often. But this might be sick variance. I just got 20k hands or sth like that. + I am also up a solid amount so I am not writing this out of anger...

I am 100% sure that sth is wrong on this site. The RNG is for sure not working correctly.

I just quit my session one of the last PLO hands was flop A J x villain 1: AAQ4 vs villain 2: JT55 turn K river dealt 2x Q and Q also not very likely....its under 3% two times villain 2 hits and scoops it...

Anyone has similare experiences!?


spoke to you about this in the past and can only tell the same thing:

I (and some others) think that rngs are weird but fair. I worked with over 100 players on 10 different apps and 90%++ of players are winning across all stakes.

However i experienced swings myself here i havent seen in 15mio hands on stars and other players telling similar stories.

I also had apps where big group of players underperformed over decent samples (won way less or even slightly losing) even though games were looking fanatastic. In this case I already quit 2 apps with my entire group and gave out warnings, however HU is winning on every single app i offered which has to make me believe that

a) rngs are fair
b) no superusers

my best guess why ringgames underperformed is "strong" collusion. samples were too big to put it on variance.

However all that being said i havent played PPP myself and didn't work with them much but it would be the first app of 10 different apps i've seen which is "rigged" so i highly doubt that it is.

Also you have to think about that clubs and the site are independant on each other and those bigger sites like PPP make a fortune by selling playchips and diamonds completely legal so i doubt that they gonna go ahead and risk their rep and potential run down a big cashcow for shortterm greed. however it's not unpossible and esp with small/new sites players should be very cautious!
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10-14-2018 , 09:21 AM
In my opinion its not fair though if the RNG is flawed, cause if draws are hitting more often and its more often nuts over 2nuts you win far less from recreational players.
Sure I also suckout and sure I also have nuts vs 2nd nuts.

But I get it in 70-80% a lot more often and I would win a lot more if recreational players dont hit that good, because they broke bad hands less often. + They get awarded for chasing draws where they shouldnt. (example: yesterday before I quit i called 3bet with KTT8 flop was K82hh i check villain check behind, turn 6x I pot he calls river Tx I shove he snaps it off with AQ97 no heart)

I had my suckouts f.e. in 4bet pot PLO where I get AAxx in on board where I am dead multiway sbr 1/4 and hit a backdoor flush....but most of the times I am the one getting it in ahead and if those % are flawed its very good for recreational players.
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10-14-2018 , 09:45 AM
Observed wr's for my guys are always higher than on regular sites, normally significantly higher. Yes it's less tables yadayada but hourly alot higher as well. So even for the case it's not "fair" (and this is just an assumption) it's still a nobrainer if your hourly is better.
But yes, some people guaranteed run absolutely terrible like you (and often quit). If it was up to me personally and my own experiences playing on pokermaster i would tell you its rigged as **** but then i have more than 100 people i worked with whose results indicate a very different story...
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