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03-31-2019 , 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GhoulPatrol
PPP makes all of their revenue directly from people running clubs and settling up in money outside of the app. It costs a ton to run a club, every single thing you do costs gems. You have to buy chips in order to send them to the players. That costs gems. When you send chips to people, you have to pay a % of what you're sending in chips, so you're constantly losing chips and have to buy more. If you want to open a table, that costs gems. Tables close after a few hours so that you have to constantly pay just to have the same number of tables. Hell, even getting a settlement sheet so that you can figure out who owes who money in a union costs gems. PPP quickly realized that their app was being co-opted by people using it to run real money games on and turned into it.
Why not many Poker App copy the model of PPPoker?

Do you think it’s very profitable for the agents and PPPoker?

I see some agents, say, Philippines, the agent claims to be the largest there but just running 3 tables 24/7, with like 0.5 USD/ 3USD bet.

Would be nice to see more operating/ profit statistics from PPPoker and their agents
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03-31-2019 , 03:02 AM
u sure it gems to open new tables? i got a small club and costs nothing to start some new cash table.
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03-31-2019 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfreddunhill
Why not many Poker App copy the model of PPPoker?

Do you think it’s very profitable for the agents and PPPoker?

I see some agents, say, Philippines, the agent claims to be the largest there but just running 3 tables 24/7, with like 0.5 USD/ 3USD bet.

Would be nice to see more operating/ profit statistics from PPPoker and their agents
lol most agents are piles of crap.

I mean, theres some good ones, sure. but most of them just lying, say whatever they can to get a sale.
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03-31-2019 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBananas
lol most agents are piles of crap.

I mean, theres some good ones, sure. but most of them just lying, say whatever they can to get a sale.
I am more interested into how PPPoker run its business model.

PPPoker APP-> $$$ -> 1. Gems 2. Clubs

1. Gems -> no clubs required -> 99% Casual Players won't pay
2. Clubs -> Agents -> Players (PPPoker gets commission from Agents; Agents get commission from Players, commission = PP Chips?)

If PPPoker App doesn't go through agents, the APP itself is illegal as it requires commission from Players. And we won't see it on App Store.

If you are PPPoker, how you find those agents?
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03-31-2019 , 11:41 AM
dude u don't get how it works. maybe dl the app and have a play around with it...
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03-31-2019 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBananas
u sure it gems to open new tables? i got a small club and costs nothing to start some new cash table.

In small clubs it costs nothing. Clubs in a union have to pay diamonds to open tables though. It is very expensive. Chip expenditure and tables costs are how PPPoker make the bulk of their money, mostly from the unionised clubs.

I wouldn't play in a club that isn't unionised. There are some small clubs out there that are fine though. PPPoker approves all unions clubs manually and most have to pay large deposits to join a union insuring some accountability.
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03-31-2019 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfreddunhill
Why not many Poker App copy the model of PPPoker?

Do you think it’s very profitable for the agents and PPPoker?

I see some agents, say, Philippines, the agent claims to be the largest there but just running 3 tables 24/7, with like 0.5 USD/ 3USD bet.

Would be nice to see more operating/ profit statistics from PPPoker and their agents
PPPoker themselves are making a lot of money. Agents are hired by the clubs though, they have nothing to do with the PPPoker company. PPPoker in itself is just a free play money poker app that costs money for certain privileges which is how they make money.

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Originally Posted by Alfreddunhill

If you are PPPoker, how you find those agents?
I've seen lots of agents advertising online. Through Reddit also. Had a bunch of Facebook messages etc. not sure of any in the Philippines though as I'm US based. PPPoker Promotion is banned on TwoPlusTwo though.
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03-31-2019 , 03:39 PM
So as i understand it you can play up to 3 tables at once just by creating 3 accounts and opening the desktop client 3 separate times, correct?

If you want to play more than 3 tables at a time you need to set up an emulator?
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03-31-2019 , 04:21 PM
Is this app a solid answer for about 9 close friends who want to play online for real money in the U.S.? Can you open a club and only allow 9 people in and it will still be affordable?
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03-31-2019 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DrBadBeat
PPPoker Promotion is banned on TwoPlusTwo though.
To be clear, any promotion without permission is banned on TwoPlusTwo. It just happens that PPPoker agents, clubs, etc. are our most frequent spammers these days, by a wide margin.

PPPoker wanted to advertise with us, and approached us about it a few months ago. It wasn't long after the NYPK scam thread was started in NVG, and as a result, we had a number of questions that we wanted a comfort level with before proceeding. We had a few emails back and forth about it, but then they never answered my last set of questions, a couple of months back; not sure what happened there. We also had a 2+2 member that wanted to promote his club, but I told him we wouldn't be taking any advertising for clubs until we got those answers.

I'm sure some of you will have received PMs from people trying to promote their clubs; I always welcome information about those people.
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04-01-2019 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
we had a number of questions that we wanted a comfort level with before proceeding.)
What were the questions?
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04-01-2019 , 06:05 PM
Really wanted to get a better handle on how the whole thing worked; it's a very different model than other poker networks, obviously. Some of the stuff was covered by DrBadBeat's answers above.

Naturally (and unfortunately), there are no guarantees when anyone advertises on our (or any) site, as we've seen before. But when I hear of a model that seemingly has a very low barrier of entry for anyone to start a club (relative to other sites), I felt we should make sure we understand how it works before accepting advertising.
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04-01-2019 , 06:29 PM
Quick question... where it says Fees: 5%/3%/1% and Cap: .5 bb 1bb 2bb 3bb etc, Does that mean up to 5% of the pot up to whatever bb cap it is?

Or is that 5% a fee PPPoker takes, so get chips to dissapear and club owners buy more?
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04-01-2019 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jameswyn
Quick question... where it says Fees: 5%/3%/1% and Cap: .5 bb 1bb 2bb 3bb etc, Does that mean up to 5% of the pot up to whatever bb cap it is?

Or is that 5% a fee PPPoker takes, so get chips to dissapear and club owners buy more?


5% of the pot, unless the cap is hit for BB first

So $10 pot with $1-$2 blinds and a 3bb cap...

It will take .50 cents

$300 pot same stakes.... it will take $6 max
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04-02-2019 , 12:31 AM
The GPS/IP feature (when on) lets you know if two users are together but I don’t really sweat collusion on here unless there are two players not obviously bombing people out of pot, same as live
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04-02-2019 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lotte Lenya
Is this a massive problem now? are all clubs like that now? But how would you know a player is a crusher until you let him or her play?
I'm still owed 16.5 from two weeks ago and I have so much anxiety about it. I don't know what I can do if the guy doesn't pay me. On March 21 my buddy took out the money from our accounts because his agent was complaining about us, basically accusing us of cheating since we were doing so well. We're owed nearly 30 between the two of us, and he said he would give us 15 this past Friday. Then he said it would take another week, but people I've talked to about this don't think I'm going to get paid. I'm gonna want to kill myself if that happens. Club is VIP 2.0

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04-02-2019 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
5% of the pot, unless the cap is hit for BB first

So $10 pot with $1-$2 blinds and a 3bb cap...

It will take .50 cents

$300 pot same stakes.... it will take $6 max
Where do you get to see this exactly?
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04-02-2019 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wam
Is this app a solid answer for about 9 close friends who want to play online for real money in the U.S.? Can you open a club and only allow 9 people in and it will still be affordable?
yes, absolutely
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04-02-2019 , 05:38 AM
Hello,

I work in the poker app world and partner with a multitude of clubs all over the world. I have been fortunate to work with great club owners until now. Unfortunately, Jody Wheeler, from McKinney, TX, and owner of FTN Poker in the Honest Guys union, appears to have spent all of the money he owes me. I cannot say for certain whether or not he has spent it, but I can say for certain he is not paying it to me.

Of course I would never make such an accusation without a thorough and detail-filled accounting of the issue. I have prepared all evidence for anyone who wishes to view it. It can be found at the link at the bottom of this post. There are spreadsheets, transaction logs, screenshots, chat transcripts, and a chronology.

My main purpose for posting, however, is to warn others of the risks involved when working with Jody or FTN or Honest Guys union in PPPoker.

I invite Jody to post here to defend himself or point out any inaccuracies with the information I have published.

I'm happy to answer questions here, where you will find a link to the evidence: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...t-pay-1740218/

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 04-02-2019 at 06:52 AM. Reason: Fixed link.
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04-02-2019 , 06:27 AM
Anyone play in the big Australian union with boom club?

Anyone one who does,do you have any info on whats happening at all
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04-02-2019 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BenKo
Hello,

I work in the poker app world and partner with a multitude of clubs all over the world. I have been fortunate to work with great club owners until now. Unfortunately, Jody Wheeler, from McKinney, TX, and owner of FTN Poker in the Honest Guys union, appears to have spent all of the money he owes me. I cannot say for certain whether or not he has spent it, but I can say for certain he is not paying it to me.

Of course I would never make such an accusation without a thorough and detail-filled accounting of the issue. I have prepared all evidence for anyone who wishes to view it. It can be found at the link at the bottom of this post. There are spreadsheets, transaction logs, screenshots, chat transcripts, and a chronology.

My main purpose for posting, however, is to warn others of the risks involved when working with Jody or FTN or Honest Guys union in PPPoker.

I invite Jody to post here to defend himself or point out any inaccuracies with the information I have published.

I'm happy to answer questions. Link to details and evidence: http://www.pokerappauthority.com/jod...-wont-pay.html
Your link leads to a Page Not Found 404 Error and I can't find anything written about your situation after a clicking the link to the homepage and taking a quick look around.

The name of the union didn't give you any hesitation when you joined? Was the Totally Legit union not an option for you?
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04-02-2019 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
Your link leads to a Page Not Found 404 Error and I can't find anything written about your situation after a clicking the link to the homepage and taking a quick look around.

The name of the union didn't give you any hesitation when you joined? Was the Totally Legit union not an option for you?
ROFL. He was actually very honest, professional, and legit for two months.

I think the moderator disconnected the link as I've been told it is against 2+2 policy. Sorry.
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04-02-2019 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BenKo
He was actually very honest, professional, and legit for two months.
I think you'd find that is what they teach on the first day of How to Scam People 101.

Why don't you just post all of the details in this thread that was in that link or post it in the Feedback and Disputes forum and put a link to that thread in here?
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04-02-2019 , 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BenKo
I think the moderator disconnected the link as I've been told it is against 2+2 policy. Sorry.
Nope. You've just made the common mistake of cut-and-pasting a shortened link. Perhaps you haven't noticed this before, but many times on forums or websites, when you include a long link, the site will automatically shorten what you see, cutting out some of the middle part. The link itself is still there, so it takes you to the correct place when you click on it. But if you cut-and-paste what you see, you lose the full link, so when you paste it elsewhere you get a link that doesn't work.

Anyway, as I mentioned to you in our PM discussion, the link isn't something we'd want in this thread, but I think having it in your Transactions & Feedback thread is fine, so I'll replace your broken link in this thread with one to your thread.
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04-02-2019 , 04:15 PM
I just want to say some things...

I am playing ppp poker on 3 accounts some 2 months...Hands are to slow so i played only 23.000 hands...Used PT4

It is shame from software...

AKS minus 3 buy ins
AQo minus 6 buy ins
QQ minus 5 buy ins...

I was played on many networks in my career some 10 millons hands...Never i was in minus with QQ, AKs, AQo...QQ and AKs won some 4-5bb per hand and AQo some 1 BB per hand

23.000 hands are small number i knaw that...but i dont trust the software...Pattern are so the same...Sets won only 48 % etc...Maybe i am in downer, but i think some is wrong on this software...
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