Was playing 3/6 last night in a midsize club I don't frequent that often, a shortstacker who seemed sorta reggy (no emulator table but played like 100 hands with him and he seemed fine) opened to 15 on btn, sb who's confirmed reg 3bet to 45, btn 4bet to 129, sb jams for 91 more w AA and btn calls with 78o. I immediately give him a fish tag and brush it off but the reg types in chat "def cheating going on here. reg 78o." and snap leaves. Is it possible this play is ever good with max collusion? The only thing I can think of is hes colluding with 3 others and they all folded junky Ax and Kx. Does this seem really fishy to you guys or is the reg just being salty? He lost fwiw, no aces or kings on board and none in my hand if he were potentially sharing cards.

Wouldn’t mind an explanation of why you believe this logic is poor or incomplete. As far I can tell, whether or not you agree with the proposition, the logic itself is fine. The theory proposed is also consistent with the poker site’s incentive to maintain an ongoing pool of players. If you don’t agree with the view at least offer a counter argument, rather than just another “option” for maintaining the player pool.

Possible, also possible the SB has a high fold to 4 bet in that spot.

What I am trying to figure out is why can I be playing a known fish HU for say 5 minutes and then within 10 seconds 2-4 people join the table? I can't think of a single legit reason this would happen.

As a company poker bros has made the decision to allow clubs to not allow emulators. You would think that, with this decision their app on all Android and iOS phones would be immaculate. A month ago when my Android phone updated to Android 11, the poker Bros app no longer worked well. Anytime you touch with your finger the touch is a quarter of an inch off. Also the top of the screen is cut off by a quarter of an inch. So if you press directly on a button the press is actually pressing a quarter inch above the button. So if you want to press a button like bat fold or numbers you actually have to press a quarter inch below them. Which makes it almost impossible to play and very frustrating. As soon as this happened a month ago I contacted support and sent them screenshots and a recording of my screen with the feature turned on that shows where my actual finger was touching. It showed them exactly what the problem was. It still is not fixed. Two weeks after I sent the original message and they said they were on it, I sent another message asking why hasn't been fixed yet and they sent me a message saying they haven't figured out the problem yet. How is that possible, with all the money that they've raked in during the pandemic, and the shutting down of a lot of emulator tables? He won't allow us to play on emulators but you also won't fix your app? Extremely disappointing and very frustrating for me

are the two big clubs still the main ones to play nowdays? Seems like collusion has infiltrated just about everywhere at this point. Where can I find a list of some clubs to join if looking to hop back in?

Does it happen to you that all emulator windows just suddenly freeze while it works totally fine on iPad ? It happens like everyday to me now. Not sure it is intentional or not. I use LD4.

Ya it’s always happened to me. Why intentional? To discourage emu play? I think it’s a bit conspiratorial but maybe small chance. It’s annoying but if you just have iPad nearby in case it freezes you should be fine. I’ve never timed out when doing this method.

very unlikely that something like this is intentional.

all those apps are developed and intended for mobile devices w/o extra software etc. however regs went ahead long time ago and started playing apps via emulators on their computers with huds and all kinds of extra software.

emulators lagging/freezing can have tons of reasons like not strong enough system, conflict with outside hud or extra software, etc


however it's a problem if some guys have issues playing on the newest android devices bc this certainly shouldnt happen

Scripting
Collusion
RTA

Maybe all 3

Do you play multiple tables? I only have one ipad. Guess I can at least save one hand.

Got txts from my agent today mentioning a “frustrating few days for everyone.”

Then says our club is changing again, and URGED us to remember not to send him deposits anymore, to send it to some admin acct.

Any idea wtf is up?

Sources close to the scene recommended I take a break for a while. Operators/ club owners are taking too many unnecessary risks. I guess the biggest one and from what I understand they are dropping a big hammer on is Zelle/Google pay/cash app on USA transactions.

Guess they were looking at the short term and not the long term of drawing unnecessary attention to themselves. Then you had that dumb ass dan from midway who I imagine him and his cronies all drew uneeded attention towards what poker bros app was doing.

I feel in the long run his players will all get shafted being since his ban he has since moved them all to another club being ran behind the scenes by him.

Seriously, get with the times. Use ****ing crypto FFS. God damn pleebs.

Mid stakes NL 6max games are dead on Diamond. This weekend was mostly 2 tables of PC tables and 2 tables of non PC tables. Yesterday was 1 of each all day and night. Traffic has been declining rapidly for the last month. Splitting the tables is bad business. They need to go 100% emulators or no emulators. I wonder if the gamblers are gone now that football has started? Games on Bovada are pretty good, but the poker client is trash and it seems to get worse every year.

People got really upset with me for saying this was gonna happen and idk why

Solution is to be with a club that offers 10+ unions. Then you can select across all of them and easily fill up the 4-8 spots. Games are still good. Just slightly more work to find them.

Unfortunately thats the problem way to many unions being formed and ran by people who don't have a damn clue what they are doing. Some unions consist of clubs that were all kicked out by the bigger unions, they just come together and start scamming again under their own union.

Poker bros does nothing to stop this either, they don't vet and if you pay and meet requirements you are good to go.

If I play I stick to 1/2 or under, 5/10 I sit down and 4 players join instantly each time. I have been following these players for over a month tracking their play and sending to club owner with screen shots of other players claiming these 4 run as a team. Soft play each other and bump pots up just to fold.

His response was so dumb too and says to me he gets complaints I'm cheating because sometimes I run real hot normally when I'm on tilt and throw money around because I don't care. But these are the times I take down 2k+ pots, I do leave the table after about another 50 hands or so but i wouldn't call it hit and run. I just buyin min. At next mid stakes table and maybe donk off a few hundro and call it night.

Traffic in diamond as of lately is 90% regs the fish get beat in a runner runner situation whine say a few choice words then leave. I tell them if they are playing with rent money dont get into a 700.00 pre-flop raise and think your aakq is going to win in a 4 way pot. Damn straight if i am damn sure I'm up against all high cards my 10987 suited is coming in hot.

not surprising

Lmao wtf is this

Isn't this a situation where Pokerbros shouldn't be trying to stop this if they are going to claim the occupy the grey area where this app is allegedly legal?

play tournaments this is the future of poker.

Forgive my ignorance but what is a union on Pokerbros? Is it a number of clubs forming together so players can play tournaments/cash tables between the two/multiple clubs?

I had not thought of that, that players can team up. I will be wary of that now. Thanks for the heads up

Players sitting shortly after you sit does not indicate that they're teaming up on you. There's a non zero chance, but it's very small. Most likely they just saw an unknown or recreational player and wanted to play. This will happen at higher stakes on every site that isn't anonymous

More of a sign of collusion, which I see all the time is when I'm playing a guy HU for 5 minutes and nobody else has joined and then in a matter of 5-10 seconds 4 non-fish join.

You already posted this, and said you couldn't think of a single legit reason. Only the flat-Earth guy responded (so effectively you didn't receive any useful replies.) I would guess that a lot of players don't want to play 2-3 handed, but once there are four people seated the table quickly fills. Hence, as soon as a third person joins, other quickly follow.