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07-17-2020 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Seems like an odd feature. Why you want people to know if you're up or down 300+ BB?
because it makes them think like this - "They said if it showed a cold they would call and a hot they would fold. He called me with total garbage and when I asked why - he said it was because my icon was cold LOL."
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07-17-2020 , 01:04 PM
Under the 'Fair gaming notice' it shows ( please correct me if I'm interpreting it wrong ) that they used :

GLI August 2019-Jan 2020
Itech Jan 2020-May 2020
BMM testlabs May 2020- ...

Couple questions ( if anyone knows the answer ) :

1. Does this mean that they switched RNG software/company 3 times in such a short amount of time? If so, any idea as to why?

2. If I assume correctly that these 3 companies all provide the same service, is it safe to say that they DO NOT use all 3 companies simultaneously, and therefore GLI hasn't been used as of Jan 2020?
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07-17-2020 , 02:06 PM
Well you can’t remove it. I guess just stand up and move to a different table if you’re so concerned. This might shock you, people aren’t always honest in the chat. Would be willing to bet your villain also makes light calls against people who are running normally.
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07-17-2020 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
I just played a session where people were calling me based on my icon. They said if it showed a cold they would call and a hot they would fold. Any way they can just remove those icons? He called me with total garbage and when I asked why - he said it was because my icon was cold LOL. He said usually when you're cold you can't win a hand. WTF - any one else do that?
People were calling you based on your icon, or one person made one call based on your icon?

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Originally Posted by djevans
Seems like an odd feature. Why you want people to know if you're up or down 300+ BB?
It's a gimmick aimed at recreational players.

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Originally Posted by djevans
Well maybe they should have an EV graph and hud too. Those arn't really good for the game but by the logic you just said it should be fine because its more information.
He isn't saying that anything that gives more information is good for the game. He's saying if you don't use information that is readily available then you're probably giving up an edge. I doubt Tim would put too much value into the hot/cold stats, but he would certainly exploit the fact if he knew someone was calling him too lightly. (He'd probably reduce his 6% VPIP and his once-a-day bluffing frequency.)
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07-17-2020 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NOTAWIZARD
Under the 'Fair gaming notice' it shows ( please correct me if I'm interpreting it wrong ) that they used :

GLI August 2019-Jan 2020
Itech Jan 2020-May 2020
BMM testlabs May 2020- ...

Couple questions ( if anyone knows the answer ) :

1. Does this mean that they switched RNG software/company 3 times in such a short amount of time? If so, any idea as to why?

2. If I assume correctly that these 3 companies all provide the same service, is it safe to say that they DO NOT use all 3 companies simultaneously, and therefore GLI hasn't been used as of Jan 2020?
I could be wrong, but I believe it means 3 independent companies have certified their rng/game fairness/game security.

The most recent was bmm testlabs, who would now be responsible for certifying any changes or updates.
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07-18-2020 , 03:01 AM
Just had my agent text me and tell me he wiped my balance clean becsuse of somebody he thinks I sent his way charging hin back. Is this standard operating procedure?
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07-18-2020 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
Just had my agent text me and tell me he wiped my balance clean becsuse of somebody he thinks I sent his way charging hin back. Is this standard operating procedure?
Only if you hardvouched for the referal and even if stuff like this should/would be discussed beforehand
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07-18-2020 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Only if you hardvouched for the referal and even if stuff like this should/would be discussed beforehand
Yeah I hard vouched for a buddy of mine who then in turn vouched for his cousin. I have no idea who is cousin is, I had never even heard the name. But yes I agree, wish this would have been discussed beforehand, looks like I have no recourse. I have sent around 5 players his way, a few including myself have put in a decent bit of volume in the last 2 months. Hard lesson
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07-18-2020 , 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
Yeah I hard vouched for a buddy of mine who then in turn vouched for his cousin. I have no idea who is cousin is, I had never even heard the name. But yes I agree, wish this would have been discussed beforehand, looks like I have no recourse. I have sent around 5 players his way, a few including myself have put in a decent bit of volume in the last 2 months. Hard lesson
Why on earth would you hard vouch for someone you don’t know
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07-18-2020 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Oladipo
Why on earth would you hard vouch for someone you don’t know
Think you misunderstood me. I hard vouched for a friend of mine.. My friend then passed on the agents info to his cousin... Who then apparently made the charge backs.

I have been playing under this agent for 2 months. Brought him multiple new players per month and was never once told that my balance was at risk based on their actions. This all came as a surprise when I woke up to a text tonight that he felt empowered to clean MY accounts..
If anyone knows anyone that makes decisions for the little giants club dm me please.

Also what defines "hard vouch" I told this agent that I had a friend that wanted in. There were no questions asked, the same way it was for the other hand full of people I sent his way.

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07-18-2020 , 04:30 AM
club union added to suspension list. (diamond)

whats people experiences when this has happened and why? Usually get money back?
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07-18-2020 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
Also what defines "hard vouch" I told this agent that I had a friend that wanted in. There were no questions asked, the same way it was for the other hand full of people I sent his way.
You'd probably cut down on confusion if you asked questions like that before you used the term.

That's not even a vouch, let alone a hard vouch. Of course, that depends on how precise you're being with "I told this agent that I had a friend that wanted in".
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07-18-2020 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AV0995
club union added to suspension list. (diamond)

whats people experiences when this has happened and why? Usually get money back?
My clubs been banned from diamond for a month now, got my money back right away.
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07-18-2020 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
You'd probably cut down on confusion if you asked questions like that before you used the term.



That's not even a vouch, let alone a hard vouch. Of course, that depends on how precise you're being with "I told this agent that I had a friend that wanted in".
This was the extent of my vouching. Exact same thing I have said for 4 other people. Is there a contact in Diamond union I can speak with? The more I think about this the angrier I am getting.
Oh and also I have reccomended HALPRIN to 3 other guys on here and I have been messaged by 2 more of his players I'm not associated with. I highly reccomend you all pull your roll IMMEDIATELY. He literally went in without mentioning a single word of a problem and drained all 5 of my accounts. This guy is a [Pokerbros] Discussion thread until he pays back.

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07-18-2020 , 09:11 AM
Finally some good banter ITT [Pokerbros] Discussion thread
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07-18-2020 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Finally some good banter ITT [Pokerbros] Discussion thread
Yes sir. Tim you seem to be the knowledge around here, who can I contact in Diamond union?
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07-18-2020 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
Yes sir. Tim you seem to be the knowledge around here, who can I contact in Diamond union?
The way i see it this is something between you and your agent, union definitely won't get involved with this, doubt that even club level would get involved with this. So your best bet in resolving this is talking to your agent but given what was posted so far this aint going to be easy either.

This is quite a unique situation so there isn't really any best practice advice. i personally don't enforce hardvouches on 2nd or 3rd degree referals unless specifically mentioned (and even if i'd never enforce without talking to the player first) but then again I also don't work with methods which can be charged back for obvious reasons
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07-18-2020 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
The way i see it this is something between you and your agent, union definitely won't get involved with this, doubt that even club level would get involved with this. So your best bet in resolving this is talking to your agent but given what was posted so far this aint going to be easy either.



This is quite a unique situation so there isn't really any best practice advice. i personally don't enforce hardvouches on 2nd or 3rd degree referals unless specifically mentioned (and even if i'd never enforce without talking to the player first) but then again I also don't work with methods which can be charged back for obvious reasons
Alright. There is no working it out with him. He robbed me blind in the middle of the night and told me to go **** myself and get it from my friend. All good. He uses his real name on venmo. I have money and resources. He has a lot of illegal gambling transactions.. I'm sure something will work out
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07-18-2020 , 10:03 AM
40% rb doesn't sound so good anymore when it comes with your entire roll being stolen at the end [Pokerbros] Discussion thread[Pokerbros] Discussion thread
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07-18-2020 , 02:10 PM
What about your friend? Did he charge back too? Is his fund safe?
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
This was the extent of my vouching. Exact same thing I have said for 4 other people. Is there a contact in Diamond union I can speak with? The more I think about this the angrier I am getting.
Oh and also I have reccomended HALPRIN to 3 other guys on here and I have been messaged by 2 more of his players I'm not associated with. I highly reccomend you all pull your roll IMMEDIATELY. He literally went in without mentioning a single word of a problem and drained all 5 of my accounts. This guy is a [Pokerbros] Discussion thread until he pays back.
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07-18-2020 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by greenworm
What about your friend? Did he charge back too? Is his fund safe?
No my friend didn't charge anything back. I don't know the current status of his funds. I don't think he kept much on as he primarily plays plo5 on ppp (where he is an agent) and was using PB for tournies.

200 dollars to anyone who PMS me with info regarding Halprin that leads to my money coming back. I already have a real name on the venmo and an approximate location. I'll die on this hill.

If I can't get recourse through here, then I'll approaching authorities with all the information I have on illegal wire fraud and names that I have associated with the little giant club. I'm done playing games
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07-18-2020 , 02:20 PM
Did you talk to your friend and his cousin about what happened?
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
No my friend didn't charge anything back. I don't know the current status of his funds. I don't think he kept much on as he primarily plays plo5 on ppp (where he is an agent) and was using PB for tournies.

200 dollars to anyone who PMS me with info regarding Halprin that leads to my money coming back. I already have a real name on the venmo and an approximate location. I'll die on this hill.

If I can't get recourse through here, then I'll approaching authorities with all the information I have on illegal wire fraud and names that I have associated with the little giant club. I'm done playing games
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07-18-2020 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rileymadison2345
No my friend didn't charge anything back. I don't know the current status of his funds. I don't think he kept much on as he primarily plays plo5 on ppp (where he is an agent) and was using PB for tournies.

200 dollars to anyone who PMS me with info regarding Halprin that leads to my money coming back. I already have a real name on the venmo and an approximate location. I'll die on this hill.

If I can't get recourse through here, then I'll approaching authorities with all the information I have on illegal wire fraud and names that I have associated with the little giant club. I'm done playing games
Just curious, why are you not upset at your referral for creating this mess? They created the problem, regardless of the actions taken after.
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07-18-2020 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
Just curious, why are you not upset at your referral for creating this mess? They created the problem, regardless of the actions taken after.
[Pokerbros] Discussion thread. I'm furious with him too.. He was suprised by all of this when I told him this morning. I'm unhappy with every single person involved, including myself. Out of the 5 refferals I have sent ( all went same way as one above) he didn't mention one time that my entire roll was at risk. This ****ing guy wouldn't even garauntee my deposits.

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Originally Posted by greenworm
Did you talk to your friend and his cousin about what happened?
I spoke with my friend this morning. He was suprised, said he would speak to his cousin this afternoon. Somebody will make me whole. The problem is these snake agents making up rules as they go and being able to steal all your money when they feel like it.
He did it to the wrong guy this time tho, Ill blow his entire life up. Nobody gets to freely steal from me. His exposure is NEVER MY RESPONSIBILITY


The guy on the other end of the venmo that has been doing illegal transactions for months is in for a **** storm if he doesn't send my money back by Monday. I will exhaust every resource imaginable, don't care if after I get paid I still lost money on expenses. You don't rob people blind while they are sleeping. Myself and my referrals made him way more in RB then he stole from me.

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