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08-07-2024 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
What is the best union for a 100nl holdem cash game player?

How much softer is Bros compared to sites like ggpoker & ipoker?
diamond, paradise, and panamericana are 3 of the biggest unions, if you're looking for volume.

if you're looking for game quality, i tend to recommend being in many unions + clubs at once, and game selecting more strictly, but that does require more work and potentially more bankroll, etc
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08-07-2024 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
What is the best union for a 100nl holdem cash game player?

How much softer is Bros compared to sites like ggpoker & ipoker?

Currently working with a player who plays on iPoker and Pokerstars. He continues to play on those, but says poker apps have the softest action he has ever seen.

Mind you, that he is very good reg and has been multi-tabling many years on regular sites. Worth mentioning, that he is heads-up specialist.


Before trying poker apps for second time ( first time, he was not that ecstatic ) , he said iPoker had the softest games.


Back to your question , usually smaller clubs have the softest action. For Holdem, try :

1. Isolation ( Private Club )
2. Hogsquad ( Private Club )
3. Stars and Stripes Union


From the bigger ones it is hard to recommend one over the other with 100% accuracy. For NLH , try either Diamond or Paradise, with first being bigger and second being slightly better for lower stakes ( softer) .
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08-13-2024 , 05:23 AM
can anyone comment on the bot situation in Diamond?
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08-14-2024 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by yasuo
can anyone comment on the bot situation in Diamond?
I play there and wouldn't say there's many bots. I'm far more on guard for colluding players than bots.

There were a couple times they caught cheaters in MTTs and my agent refunded my buyin. So I'm assuming it happens more often and they don't always catch it. I think it was multi-accounting they caught, or two people playing from an IP.
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08-15-2024 , 11:50 AM
New to app/agent based games. I'm concerned that if I sign up to a club with an agent who I later want part ways with for whatever reason (e.g. I find out he has a bad reputation, find a better RB deal through someone else, etc.) I'll be able to sign up for that same club or union through someone else without issue.

I assume the answer is yes since these accounts aren't tied to your real identity (I think just email/telegram), but wanted to make sure, and ask if there are any caveats to that.
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08-15-2024 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drawdown
New to app/agent based games. I'm concerned that if I sign up to a club with an agent who I later want part ways with for whatever reason (e.g. I find out he has a bad reputation, find a better RB deal through someone else, etc.) I'll be able to sign up for that same club or union through someone else without issue.

I assume the answer is yes since these accounts aren't tied to your real identity (I think just email/telegram), but wanted to make sure, and ask if there are any caveats to that.
no - what you describe is a pretty normal thing that people do - it would be a bummer if you were forced to stay with someone who gave you bad service or no rakeback or something.
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08-17-2024 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by drawdown
New to app/agent based games. I'm concerned that if I sign up to a club with an agent who I later want part ways with for whatever reason (e.g. I find out he has a bad reputation, find a better RB deal through someone else, etc.) I'll be able to sign up for that same club or union through someone else without issue.

I assume the answer is yes since these accounts aren't tied to your real identity (I think just email/telegram), but wanted to make sure, and ask if there are any caveats to that.

It is not a problem to switch agents/clubs. Just choose carefully , as switching upline often can backfire and result in headaches.
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08-20-2024 , 02:11 AM
It’s advertised that there will be the DSOP starting in 3 days, anyone know how to find the schedule ?
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08-20-2024 , 01:43 PM
Here is what i found :

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08-21-2024 , 09:18 PM
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08-22-2024 , 04:37 AM
Thanks
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08-30-2024 , 12:17 AM
FYI:

semi-breaking news: panamericana union is merging with paradise union. the new union will see a big jump in traffic! i don't think all the details are sorted out yet, so please check with your agent(s) to see what's up
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09-12-2024 , 07:35 PM
other semi-breaking news: RGS union has ceased operations. please check your agent(s) to see what's up
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09-13-2024 , 01:22 AM
Dang, 2 big unions down in a matter of weeks. So now we're down to Diamond or Paradise for larger unions?

Is traffic just way down across the board so they're attempting to consolidate?
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09-15-2024 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Vronge
Dang, 2 big unions down in a matter of weeks. So now we're down to Diamond or Paradise for larger unions?

Is traffic just way down across the board so they're attempting to consolidate?

Diamond and Paradise are especially bigger.

Big Korean club opened doors. Super busy NLH action there up to high-stake. Other decently sized private clubs for NLH have opened doors, such as All Eeen.
Very soft union called Greenjacket Showdown has opened doors.

Exclusive high-stakes club starts next week, which will be run by TOP 15 Player of all time. All in All, Pokerbros has not been in better state in a long time. Especially if we consider the overall NLH action ( Now quite a few clubs offer NLH HU, which was almost impossible to find back in the day ).
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09-15-2024 , 08:01 AM
compared to pokerstars & ipoker, does pokerbros have similar amount of active online players on average? is it a big difference?
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09-15-2024 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Slugant
compared to pokerstars & ipoker, does pokerbros have similar amount of active online players on average? is it a big difference?

If we compare just 1 club/room on Pokerbros against one of the biggest regular sites, it has much lower traffic. Diamond Union is the closest to a large room, but still has less active tables . If we combine all the clubs/unions you can gain access to ( with legit poker agent , it is easy to accomplish) - then Pokerbros has more games than iPoker.
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09-15-2024 , 07:37 PM
because the bros clubs have different player pools (for cash games), a player is able to play in more than one pokerbros room at a time. some peeps will get accounts in many different rooms and increase their game selection that way
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09-16-2024 , 04:33 PM
Would like some feedback on a weird spot that isn’t specifically linked to PB but might be due to the nature of the straddling on the app. I’ve been playing poker for 20yrs 12-13 of which were mid-high stakes professionally. I’ve seen most stuff in this game but I’m no longer a pro.

I’m a very cynical and distrusting person by nature and usually decline these sorts of invites but I got invited to a PB private group with 20-30 ppl in it, by a local degenerate gambler, who I know irl loosely. Only a maybe 10 ppl of that 20-30 play with any volume, and 2 are the organizers of the game/group, who are clearly not playing with their own deposits and are using the house bank. Every single person is a rec, not one person has even the slightest idea about how to play. They all seem to know each other loosely. So why would they want to invite an ex pro and some of his friends to play with them? ‘They like to gamble’ ‘they are only interested in the rake’ bla bla. Anyway over the course of a few days I won, and then I started to lose but started to notice the games tightening up, play styles differing to what I’d seen prior, and before the loss means even an iota to me (like ive lost next to nothing) I’ve quit because I am seeing some odd stuff. I was prepared to be cheated originally because I thought at the very least you’d need to understand poker/equities etc and I’d still win as this is literally the dream spot.

One of the ways I felt cheated was with straddles. They would allow straddle from any position, then between 2-3 of them they would straddle to 3-4x meaning you’d either have to straddle to end up playing very short eff stacks or all in or you’d be capped out of action, or you’d just have to fold to not be involved. I couldn’t quite figure why they would do this meaning if someone straddled to 64 in a 1/2 game I could wake up with aces or anything remotely and be in a great spot. The same person could continue to straddle. Perhaps it was a way to nick the blinds. I did find myself card dead unfortunately over a few k hand sample. But I’d find I’d end up ousted out of playing lost hands because of This strange straddling. I’d also find myself multiway in nearly every pot, every 3b or 4b would be called, 3 or sometimes 4 handed. So you couldn’t play effectively as they would all be in the pot.

I’m not entirely sure if I’m right or they were just a bunch of morons and I could be super paranoid but it doesn’t make sense and feels too good to be true which is when alarm bells should be ringing, so something tells me I was right and quit.

Have any of you heard of this type of stuff on PB - straddles and multiway pots specifically being a tool.
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09-17-2024 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
Would like some feedback on a weird spot that isn’t specifically linked to PB but might be due to the nature of the straddling on the app. I’ve been playing poker for 20yrs 12-13 of which were mid-high stakes professionally. I’ve seen most stuff in this game but I’m no longer a pro.

I’m a very cynical and distrusting person by nature and usually decline these sorts of invites but I got invited to a PB private group with 20-30 ppl in it, by a local degenerate gambler, who I know irl loosely. Only a maybe 10 ppl of that 20-30 play with any volume, and 2 are the organizers of the game/group, who are clearly not playing with their own deposits and are using the house bank. Every single person is a rec, not one person has even the slightest idea about how to play. They all seem to know each other loosely. So why would they want to invite an ex pro and some of his friends to play with them? ‘They like to gamble’ ‘they are only interested in the rake’ bla bla. Anyway over the course of a few days I won, and then I started to lose but started to notice the games tightening up, play styles differing to what I’d seen prior, and before the loss means even an iota to me (like ive lost next to nothing) I’ve quit because I am seeing some odd stuff. I was prepared to be cheated originally because I thought at the very least you’d need to understand poker/equities etc and I’d still win as this is literally the dream spot.

One of the ways I felt cheated was with straddles. They would allow straddle from any position, then between 2-3 of them they would straddle to 3-4x meaning you’d either have to straddle to end up playing very short eff stacks or all in or you’d be capped out of action, or you’d just have to fold to not be involved. I couldn’t quite figure why they would do this meaning if someone straddled to 64 in a 1/2 game I could wake up with aces or anything remotely and be in a great spot. The same person could continue to straddle. Perhaps it was a way to nick the blinds. I did find myself card dead unfortunately over a few k hand sample. But I’d find I’d end up ousted out of playing lost hands because of This strange straddling. I’d also find myself multiway in nearly every pot, every 3b or 4b would be called, 3 or sometimes 4 handed. So you couldn’t play effectively as they would all be in the pot.

I’m not entirely sure if I’m right or they were just a bunch of morons and I could be super paranoid but it doesn’t make sense and feels too good to be true which is when alarm bells should be ringing, so something tells me I was right and quit.

Have any of you heard of this type of stuff on PB - straddles and multiway pots specifically being a tool.


Cannot comment on the specific private games you have been invited to, but in general many Pokerbros players love to straddle and gamble .

Double Boards and Bombpots are somewhat popular poker games but in Pokerbros in most clubs , Omaha tables are with either one or both.

Not to mention the app has introduced Triple Board games, exactly because players love to see many flops and to complain about bad beats online.


With that being said its entirely possible you were victim to collusion, especially since its small clubs and the guys knew each other. Better to play in more established clubs.
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09-17-2024 , 11:42 PM
I like the pineapple variants on Diamond union and play them often. But there's a problem with the regular pineapple.

Before any action, it goes around the table and everyone mucks a card. Then, the action starts under the gun as in hold em.


The problem is... you should just be able to fold! Only the people who are going to the flop need to bother with the discard. Because of this flaw in the programming, or maybe as an additional flaw, there's no little box to pre-fold your lousy hands, even after the discard. I wish they'd fix this, as it makes it very difficult to multi-table this game.

I have wondered, though, if going through that process causes rec players to get a little more attached to their hand...
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09-18-2024 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
Would like some feedback on a weird spot that isn’t specifically linked to PB but might be due to the nature of the straddling on the app. I’ve been playing poker for 20yrs 12-13 of which were mid-high stakes professionally. I’ve seen most stuff in this game but I’m no longer a pro.

I’m a very cynical and distrusting person by nature and usually decline these sorts of invites but I got invited to a PB private group with 20-30 ppl in it, by a local degenerate gambler, who I know irl loosely. Only a maybe 10 ppl of that 20-30 play with any volume, and 2 are the organizers of the game/group, who are clearly not playing with their own deposits and are using the house bank. Every single person is a rec, not one person has even the slightest idea about how to play. They all seem to know each other loosely. So why would they want to invite an ex pro and some of his friends to play with them? ‘They like to gamble’ ‘they are only interested in the rake’ bla bla. Anyway over the course of a few days I won, and then I started to lose but started to notice the games tightening up, play styles differing to what I’d seen prior, and before the loss means even an iota to me (like ive lost next to nothing) I’ve quit because I am seeing some odd stuff. I was prepared to be cheated originally because I thought at the very least you’d need to understand poker/equities etc and I’d still win as this is literally the dream spot.

One of the ways I felt cheated was with straddles. They would allow straddle from any position, then between 2-3 of them they would straddle to 3-4x meaning you’d either have to straddle to end up playing very short eff stacks or all in or you’d be capped out of action, or you’d just have to fold to not be involved. I couldn’t quite figure why they would do this meaning if someone straddled to 64 in a 1/2 game I could wake up with aces or anything remotely and be in a great spot. The same person could continue to straddle. Perhaps it was a way to nick the blinds. I did find myself card dead unfortunately over a few k hand sample. But I’d find I’d end up ousted out of playing lost hands because of This strange straddling. I’d also find myself multiway in nearly every pot, every 3b or 4b would be called, 3 or sometimes 4 handed. So you couldn’t play effectively as they would all be in the pot.

I’m not entirely sure if I’m right or they were just a bunch of morons and I could be super paranoid but it doesn’t make sense and feels too good to be true which is when alarm bells should be ringing, so something tells me I was right and quit.

Have any of you heard of this type of stuff on PB - straddles and multiway pots specifically being a tool.
I’ve seen this dynamic on clubGG and PB as well recently - was baffling. Same guy straddling every hand, but is playing weirdly good/tight postflop. PPL straddling to 64 in 1/2, getting cooked over a small sample.
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09-18-2024 , 06:16 PM
Yes exactly this - tight post flop, I didn’t have chance to jam over a 64 because of card distribution. I wasn’t getting cooked per se, as I was just card dead over the few sessions. But it felt odd. It was a couple of guys who were friends too, I’m pretty certain it’s some weird colluding trick.
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09-21-2024 , 07:51 AM
does bros have waiting list for each table or global waiting list? (or perhaps none at all)
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09-22-2024 , 05:23 PM
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does bros have waiting list for each table or global waiting list? (or perhaps none at all)
Waiting list is per table.
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