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04-15-2020 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by WindUpBird
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Would love an answer on this. Best HUD for pokerbros?
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04-15-2020 , 05:00 PM
Hello,

I've been playing on bros a lot for the last month or so. I have two issues I was wondering if I could get some support on.

1) The timebank doesn't work if you take too much of the free time. For example if I click timebank when the progress bar is about halfway through the timebank will activate and ass is well. If I've used up most of the free time and go to press timebank when its on the left side of the SN box the timebank isn't activated at my hand times out and is folded. This has happened to me multiple times facing tough decisions.

2) Apparently there is a cap on the amount of players you can color tag. That's fine and I understand why they would have that in place. I hit the cap so I thought ok I will remove some tags and only tag certain player types to reduce my number. The problem is that once you are at cap you can't even remove a tag from a player that was already color tagged. When you go to clear the tag and press remove it gives you the same 'can't add more color tags' message.

I work in IT and have played poker at a high level for 12 years. All in all the software is great but these fixes would definitely help me, especially the issue with the timebank. If you need more info please let me know and I will provide what is needed.

Thanks!
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04-15-2020 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AGrochowski
https://www.hand2note.com/Help/pages...tBeingUpdated/ guys whos hud doesnt work, try this.

Hi, does anyone know if there is any software with hotkeys, table planner etc avaiable on bros?
Poker Minion has hotkeys, table planner, etc for PokerBros.
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04-16-2020 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Vision72
I am not asking how often they get hit by random players.

Instead I am asking how much this costs you in bb100 on various stakes on this app (and compared to PPP) besides regular rake you pay on this app, assuming you happen to not hit those at all, which will happen to close to all/vast majority% of players for infinitely long periods of time.

Shiny big numbers for 1st places in massive AFS MTTs and pseudo-guarantees are attractive for recreational players as well, we get that.
Just click on Bad Beat Jackpot it literally tells you the fee and payout structure. It's pretty transparent tbh haha
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04-16-2020 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DrBadBeat
Just click on Bad Beat Jackpot it literally tells you the fee and payout structure. It's pretty transparent tbh haha
I am well aware of 0.6, 0.4, 0.25 nl20-nl200 fee for 10bb+ pots before making my initial posts, and i do not care about jack pot payout structure as it has nothing to do with my question, not sure u will get it.

So, please leave your low IQ haha`s out of this.
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04-16-2020 , 03:23 AM
Guy w your IQ should be pretty easy to calculate it yourself so dont understand why guy like you would ask us peasants itt for help??!
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04-16-2020 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MrPLO69
oh ok...

Hi guys, how are you guys doing today?

Guys, i have been seeing online some agencies now have been posting some deals charging cashout fees and in some cases taking hidden action on the deal by lying about the correct chip to $ amount. I asked some of the agents Why? Why are you charging me a cashout fee? Why are do you need to take my action? Why can't I just play on my own dime without a cashout fee like everyone else? One of the main answers that I received was that because I am a winning player, it means that I am bad for the poker ecosystem...I take the fishes money so fast! I make the games very very very bad and I decrease traffic to the poker site...wow I thought, they have a point!

But actually I think this is totally false, for example on 200nl 6max tables I am winning about 7bb/100 at pokerbros clubs, while rake paid is about 9bb/100, during peak times there is nearly 500 tables running on the bigger unions with basically every player at these tables paying close to 10bb/100 in rake...in PLO its even worse. Historically 90% of depositors end up losing. Pokerstars Net Profit/day is around $500k, I think the biggest winning players on Pokerstars make maybe 1MM/year... are winning players really the problem?

So guys, What do we think now when agents and site owners try to justify these added taxes? should we stand for this? Do they have any ground at all?

can't wait to engage in discussion with all you brillaint guys and have a Jolly day guys.

BTW make sure to keep this PG13 as the mods on here are borderline ******ed.
You shouldn’t be paying ANY taxes or fees to your agent and should be getting AT LEAST 30% rakeback.
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04-16-2020 , 09:05 AM
Is the app in maintenance at the moment?
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04-16-2020 , 01:43 PM
Here is my take on PB:

I started a new club about a month ago to have something to do during quarantine. My intention was to get my normal poker crew together (15-20 players) Since then its grown to around 200 players (50-100 active nightly). Mainly from word of mouth and friends of friends. So far its been very fun and successful! Daily tourneys and cash games. Just friends having fun, not winning or losing a ton. Some good scores here and there for larger MTT's.

The platform is great, what a well thought out app. I never messed with PPPoker but this is just like it from what I've heard. I never wanted to make money from my buddies but the amount of admin work and real money I have to pay to keep the club going is why I take a reasonable fee. Example: pay to keep club level updated for the player cap, pay to keep loading people with chips, etc. etc. I give back to the crew by running freerolls and handing out free chips for recruitment. The platform is setup for the devs to make $$ & is genius.

This app is far from perfect though. The cards that come out are geared towards crazy action and weird setups. Almost every board is paired, and literally 80% of the time it goes runner runner to kill someone. Just absolutely insane boards every single hand. This is mathematically impossible and nowhere near true RNG or close to any other poker site or live games. I know, why keep playing? Because the action and RNG is the same for all players. Ive simply changed gears and play a different game than I would live. Its still fun but dont be fooled by people saying its "legit" or that the software is "certified" by 2 external companies, thats a crock of Sh*t.

I'm always getting people trying to steal my players and bring them into the main Union that runs the massive tourneys daily. Which to me are a crock, I guarantee its almost impossible to win the 100K MTT (or any other massive MTT), so much collusion, and who knows if they really pay out. I'm sure Ill get people saying "oh its real, Ive won one and been paid". Ya right! The main way the developers make money is by getting all players to funnel into the main Union and take as much money out of your pocket as possible.

Its still a fun little app to play.
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04-16-2020 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by homegamerunner
This is mathematically impossible and nowhere near true RNG or close to any other poker site or live games. b
proof?

People say this about every site which isnt stars. most likely reasons are:

1. More people per flop leading to more coolers.
2. more people per flop and people not adjusting and thinking things are coolers. When 4 players get to the river and a flush binks, you stacking off with your straight isnt a cooler anymore. yet the amount of people i see in chat on this site claiming the site is rigged because of it is funny.
3. more hands per hour so perception is more action (For live player)
4. a lot of people who are playin this site wont be professional online players. They likely already have a "online poker is somewhat rigged" mindset before any hands are dealt and they're just looking for things trying to reinforce that opinion.


this discussion supposed to be in other thread so i wont post more about it here. pm me your proof though


"A paired flop every 1/6 times a flop is dealt. A paired turn card every 1/5 times you see a turn (if the flop was unpaired) A paired river card every 1/4 times you see a river (if the flop+turn was unpaired)"

paired boards happen a lot.

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04-16-2020 , 11:27 PM
I think your response was excellent, but I don't think there's any reason to keep that "proof" confined to private messaging. Feel free to share it here.
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04-17-2020 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by homegamerunner
Here is my take on PB:

I started a new club about a month ago to have something to do during quarantine. My intention was to get my normal poker crew together (15-20 players) Since then its grown to around 200 players (50-100 active nightly). Mainly from word of mouth and friends of friends. So far its been very fun and successful! Daily tourneys and cash games. Just friends having fun, not winning or losing a ton. Some good scores here and there for larger MTT's.

The platform is great, what a well thought out app. I never messed with PPPoker but this is just like it from what I've heard. I never wanted to make money from my buddies but the amount of admin work and real money I have to pay to keep the club going is why I take a reasonable fee. Example: pay to keep club level updated for the player cap, pay to keep loading people with chips, etc. etc. I give back to the crew by running freerolls and handing out free chips for recruitment. The platform is setup for the devs to make $$ & is genius.

This app is far from perfect though. The cards that come out are geared towards crazy action and weird setups. Almost every board is paired, and literally 80% of the time it goes runner runner to kill someone. Just absolutely insane boards every single hand. This is mathematically impossible and nowhere near true RNG or close to any other poker site or live games. I know, why keep playing? Because the action and RNG is the same for all players. Ive simply changed gears and play a different game than I would live. Its still fun but dont be fooled by people saying its "legit" or that the software is "certified" by 2 external companies, thats a crock of Sh*t.

I'm always getting people trying to steal my players and bring them into the main Union that runs the massive tourneys daily. Which to me are a crock, I guarantee its almost impossible to win the 100K MTT (or any other massive MTT), so much collusion, and who knows if they really pay out. I'm sure Ill get people saying "oh its real, Ive won one and been paid". Ya right! The main way the developers make money is by getting all players to funnel into the main Union and take as much money out of your pocket as possible.

Its still a fun little app to play.
I keep winning on all these sites that are so rigged and full of collusion. Maybe it's just you man
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04-17-2020 , 03:48 AM
I started a new club a month ago and poker is rigged in the same post. Welcome to the poker world.
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04-17-2020 , 05:44 AM
I mean he took a pretty sensible line. If it was rigged, which side would you rather be on, operator or player?
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04-17-2020 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I keep winning on all these sites that are so rigged and full of collusion. Maybe it's just you man
Nowhere in my post did I say it was rigged. I simply said it was nothing like live poker or any other online poker ive seen & the RNG was coded by a 3 year old. I dont need proof, I know, my players know and we still think its fun. Its poker bingo at its finest.

If you play on this app and dont think somethings fishy, then you. are. a. sucker fish! Dont try and polish your poker skills on the PB app lol. Dont need proof, Im scratching my head almost every other hand wondering WTF is happening. The devs could have made it a little less obvious but chose not to. The same fish in my live games that have zero success, are all of the sudden at the top of the leader board for a group of 100+.... that combined with other strange oddities is all you need to hear.

I'm not a poker pro but Im a seasoned rec player with success in live games, and the old days of online poker. I have an advanced understanding of the game, can calculate odds quickly, and make great reads. A lot of players just play 2 cards in their hand and cross their fingers.... Im not one of those. Point of my orig post was to state what I like/dislike about PB. Its more of an PSA & FYI for people jumping in. Dont expect a lot of success or the dream of hitting big on here, its not going to happen.
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04-17-2020 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by homegamerunner
Nowhere in my post did I say it was rigged. I simply said it was nothing like live poker or any other online poker ive seen & the RNG was coded by a 3 year old. I dont need proof, I know, my players know and we still think its fun. Its poker bingo at its finest.

If you play on this app and dont think somethings fishy, then you. are. a. sucker fish! Dont try and polish your poker skills on the PB app lol. Dont need proof, Im scratching my head almost every other hand wondering WTF is happening. The devs could have made it a little less obvious but chose not to. The same fish in my live games that have zero success, are all of the sudden at the top of the leader board for a group of 100+.... that combined with other strange oddities is all you need to hear.

I'm not a poker pro but Im a seasoned rec player with success in live games, and the old days of online poker. I have an advanced understanding of the game, can calculate odds quickly, and make great reads. A lot of players just play 2 cards in their hand and cross their fingers.... Im not one of those. Point of my orig post was to state what I like/dislike about PB. Its more of an PSA & FYI for people jumping in. Dont expect a lot of success or the dream of hitting big on here, its not going to happen.
At the beginning of your post you say its not rigged but for the rest of it you say the rng is super fishy/ odd and if you dont think theres something wrong with this app then you are a big sucker. Make up your mind bro or just go play some 6card plo on the app, you dont need a sketchy rng to have crazy coolers in that game.
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04-17-2020 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by homegamerunner
Nowhere in my post did I say it was rigged. I simply said it was nothing like live poker or any other online poker ive seen & the RNG was coded by a 3 year old. I dont need proof, I know, my players know and we still think its fun. Its poker bingo at its finest.

If you play on this app and dont think somethings fishy, then you. are. a. sucker fish! Dont try and polish your poker skills on the PB app lol. Dont need proof, Im scratching my head almost every other hand wondering WTF is happening. The devs could have made it a little less obvious but chose not to. The same fish in my live games that have zero success, are all of the sudden at the top of the leader board for a group of 100+.... that combined with other strange oddities is all you need to hear.

I'm not a poker pro but Im a seasoned rec player with success in live games, and the old days of online poker. I have an advanced understanding of the game, can calculate odds quickly, and make great reads. A lot of players just play 2 cards in their hand and cross their fingers.... Im not one of those. Point of my orig post was to state what I like/dislike about PB. Its more of an PSA & FYI for people jumping in. Dont expect a lot of success or the dream of hitting big on here, its not going to happen.
nice troll.
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04-17-2020 , 12:45 PM
Definitely something strange with this app. Everytime I put all my chips in the middle postflop my opponent calls drawing dead or close to it. Very strange. Developers might want to check that "undocumented feature" out.

Also everytime someone 3bets and I 4bet shove with AQ my opponents always have AK. Always. They don't ever have AJ or AQ. Always AK. Sometimes I hit my Queen to win the pot and sometime I don't. Developers might want to check that out too.

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04-17-2020 , 03:34 PM
I appreciate everyone in this thread sharing about rakeback and other info. I wasn't fully aware of what was available. I'm a rec low/micro player and haven't been playing on PB long, maybe 3 weeks recently. I did play on PPP off and on 3 or so years ago. Been registered and joined a club on PB months ago but rarely played until the lockdown. I'll be talking to my agent more about this and finding another one if we can't work something out. Do agents typically put minimum requirements on rake back, like you have to deposit a certain amount or play certain stakes?

I mainly play the MTTs, from 5 to 35 buyin and occasionally the 100 buyin. I cash in these regularly but haven't hit the top slots on PB. Closest on PB was 9th. My main question is about how this is working behind the scenes. The 100k gtd that runs nightly (I think) really turns into a 250k every time I've played and has 40k up top. I don't have any experience with large cash outs or deposits. The few times I've added or cashed out a measly amount of chips (~100 chip deposits, and I haven't cashed anything out on PB but did on PPP, the largest ~1.2k), I'm always sending to a different random person when I deposit, and received from multiple random people for larger cashouts more than around 200. My point being there's no central bank for lack of a better term, no cashier, at least at my level. This has always concerned me. How is that not a ponzi scheme? Paying players with other players deposits. Maybe it's only happened in the clubs I've played, though I played in at least 5 different clubs on PPP, all unrelated, and it was always the same. Maybe it's only like that on the low level I've played. It doesn't bother me enough to stop playing because I never have too much on the line. But I'd like to understand how all this works behind the scenes with all of the individual clubs together in the unions. How does the 100k gtd winner get the 40k? How are the unions pooling all of the buyins? Does the winner receive from 40 different people over a matter of days or weeks when they cash out? I assume any large payouts are done via crypto? I don't know that any online transfer option for something as large as 40k would work for me. I'd probably want to meet and get the cash, even if I had to incur the expense to drive cross country, meet in Vegas, whatever. But is that even an option with most of these clubs and agents?

I can understand if this shouldn't be discussed here. I'm sure I'm not the first to ask these questions and it has been discussed elsewhere, if anyone can please direct me to that place, I'd appreciate it. I've searched but haven't found direct answers. I can also understand why people wouldn't want this information posted, but figured, hey it's the internet and people post anything, though maybe not here.

I'm also curious if there is a compilation thread here or on another site that lists or ranks the different agents, clubs and unions, maybe shows basic info, terms and games offered, with players' reviews or mainly horror stories about not getting paid.

Appreciate any guidance and input.
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04-17-2020 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFireSky
The few times I've added or cashed out a measly amount of chips (~100 chip deposits, and I haven't cashed anything out on PB but did on PPP, the largest ~1.2k), I'm always sending to a different random person when I deposit, and received from multiple random people for larger cashouts more than around 200. My point being there's no central bank for lack of a better term, no cashier, at least at my level. This has always concerned me. How is that not a ponzi scheme? Paying players with other players deposits.
How is it a Ponzi scheme? Nothing you've described is evidence that it is. Just because something has the potential to be a Ponzi scheme, doesn't make it one.

I think it's good to ask questions, because there's no doubt that this club model means you're putting a great deal of trust in people you know little to nothing about. I wouldn't risk more than I was prepared to lose. But we also need to be careful about throwing around terms that don't necessarily apply.

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I'm also curious if there is a compilation thread here or on another site that lists or ranks the different agents, clubs and unions, maybe shows basic info, terms and games offered, with players' reviews or mainly horror stories about not getting paid.
I think this thread is as close as you're going to find. If you ever do come across a site that ranks agents or clubs in some way, I'd be very cautious and wary that they might be putting their own interests first. As an example, there are many sites that rank poker rooms, but they're pretty much all affiliate sites, and their rankings are often affected by this. As for a list of basic info, that's always a bit tricky, because those things constantly change, so it requires someone to keep the list up to date.
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04-17-2020 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BigChiefFireSky

I mainly play the MTTs, from 5 to 35 buyin and occasionally the 100 buyin. I cash in these regularly but haven't hit the top slots on PB. Closest on PB was 9th. My main question is about how this is working behind the scenes. The 100k gtd that runs nightly (I think) really turns into a 250k every time I've played and has 40k up top. I don't have any experience with large cash outs or deposits. The few times I've added or cashed out a measly amount of chips (~100 chip deposits, and I haven't cashed anything out on PB but did on PPP, the largest ~1.2k), I'm always sending to a different random person when I deposit, and received from multiple random people for larger cashouts more than around 200. My point being there's no central bank for lack of a better term, no cashier, at least at my level. This has always concerned me. How is that not a ponzi scheme? Paying players with other players deposits. Maybe it's only happened in the clubs I've played, though I played in at least 5 different clubs on PPP, all unrelated, and it was always the same. Maybe it's only like that on the low level I've played. It doesn't bother me enough to stop playing because I never have too much on the line. But I'd like to understand how all this works behind the scenes with all of the individual clubs together in the unions. How does the 100k gtd winner get the 40k? How are the unions pooling all of the buyins? Does the winner receive from 40 different people over a matter of days or weeks when they cash out? I assume any large payouts are done via crypto? I don't know that any online transfer option for something as large as 40k would work for me. I'd probably want to meet and get the cash, even if I had to incur the expense to drive cross country, meet in Vegas, whatever. But is that even an option with most of these clubs and agents?

I can understand if this shouldn't be discussed here. I'm sure I'm not the first to ask these questions and it has been discussed elsewhere, if anyone can please direct me to that place, I'd appreciate it. I've searched but haven't found direct answers. I can also understand why people wouldn't want this information posted, but figured, hey it's the internet and people post anything, though maybe not here.


Appreciate any guidance and input.
I've cashed out a total of 14k in the last 3 months using Transferwise and received the money within a week, sometimes even faster.
For big cashouts it's better to use crypto since it's not traceable otherwise you're gonna have to pay taxes depending where you're from.

Winning the nightly 100k is not impossible, it's just very high variance. 3k+ entries and turbo structure.
Even when you get to the last 2 tables, usually the chipleader has no more than 50 bigs and when you get to the FT it's even worse. Basically you have to run good throughout the whole tournament and win the flips that count.

For example, last week I was 1st out of 40 players remaining but from that point on I was card dead and ended up in 17th place.

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04-17-2020 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FinsOfFury
Absolutely amazing that people are now trying to bring socialism into poker. Go home.
Is this surprising? The amount of beta Bernie Bros in this community is astounding and it is also confirming my bias that most poker players are stupid.

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04-17-2020 , 10:00 PM
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I've cashed out a total of 14k in the last 3 months using Transferwise and received the money within a week, sometimes even faster.
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Would be v cautious w transferwise. They have absolute zero tolerance towards gambling, crypto, etc
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04-18-2020 , 08:34 AM
Hi guys,

Is there an FAQ for this thread or can someone just tell me the basics? Like download the app, set up a profile and then you have to join a club and how do you get money on or off? Venmo?

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04-18-2020 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
Hi guys,

Is there an FAQ for this thread or can someone just tell me the basics? Like download the app, set up a profile and then you have to join a club and how do you get money on or off? Venmo?

G
First, download the app and create an account. Then, apply to join a club, using whatever club ID your agent gives you. For deposit and withdraw methods, you will have to discuss that with your agent, but most agents accept: bitcoin, Venmo, Zelle, and Paypal.
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