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wouldn't it be easier to prove segragation if you had pics from another account that cannot see these tables? i don't know what you are trying to prove with these pics

bwin can obviously have bwin-only tables. nothing wrong with that imo

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03-22-2014 , 05:05 PM

#14978

YouSureSir

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,069

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Originally Posted by Lessu

Well i think the fact iambiwinnning has never been tracked with ptr except 4 hands at micros and louisxxx hasnt been tracked for a long time, shows that not even are these tables not visible to everyone but they are being exploited once again by players that will only play on them.

Next question, how did you manage to see these tables lietome? And is it possible that ptr tracks party but not bwin? Seems strange

Last edited by YouSureSir; 03-22-2014 at 05:13 PM.

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03-22-2014 , 06:20 PM

#14979

LieToMe

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 81

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Originally Posted by YouSureSir

Yes, it is possible that some tables are bwin only. If so, the motive is probably to limit access to the fish. However, as you mention, the system is clearly still exploited. I haven't logged in at bwin for a while, but louisxxx was playing quite often even a couple of months ago. Obviously only at the tables not visible on PTR = segregated in some way. My bwin acc was created 9 mts or so ago, winning account.

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03-22-2014 , 06:34 PM

#14980

2oops2

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 396

Pretty sure there are some bwin exclusive tables, although that wouldn't account for players not being tracked on ptr at all as both put in pretty heavy volume.

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03-22-2014 , 08:30 PM

#14981

lotus guardian

adept

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 766

Is bwin tracked by ptr? If not then it would be normal for players who only play bwin exclusive tables to not be tracked. The only question would be are those tables really seen by everyone at bwin and no one at party. If so they're bwin exclusive, if not then it's segregation.

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03-22-2014 , 08:33 PM

#14982

ebffs

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,919

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Originally Posted by TheRuffian

Party rep, this needs to be commented on as a matter of urgency surely, if Party's reputation is not to plummet to even further depths.

How much worse can their reputation plummet? They've been caught already, you'd be surprised if they were caught again? You figured they just turned over a new leaf and wouldn't do anything unethical evaa again? They got away with it the first time right. I mean look how many people are still playing here. You guys kept them in business, beta tested their new software for free and played a majour role in a smooth transition the the NJ market. That sure showed them!

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03-23-2014 , 04:09 AM

#14983

twopoundroo

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 137

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Originally Posted by Lessu

oh the amount of people that don't read t&c and are not aware of party's scummy, misleading promotions and who will on monday wonder where their prize money is.

this is what the promo page says

"you have won a $300 . Enjoy."

"Thank you for playing and make sure you look out for our next promotion."

it's over, right?

on monday:

"What? It's a bonus !?!?!?"

"What? I CAN ONLY CLEAR IT AT FAST FORWARD TABLES ???"

Are you sure this is right?

I know the promo talks about fastforward but the T & C doesn't say you have to clear it at fastforward tables as far as I see. It says "The bonus can only be redeemed on cash game tables"

Once you accumulate 4 x 150 point days, you have to log on to claim the bonus (24 hour window which is sneaky) and then the bonus is released after you wager $1200 (for the $300 bonus) within 7 days.

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03-23-2014 , 05:06 AM

#14984

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

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Originally Posted by twopoundroo

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Points Hunt

To clarify the bonus requirements for the Points Hunt promo, they can only be cleared on fastforward tables. The wagering restrictions are 4 times the bonus amount.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=14935

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03-23-2014 , 05:09 AM

#14985

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

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Originally Posted by YouSureSir

could be explained by PTR only tracking Party, not Bwin

edit: like lotus guardian already said

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03-23-2014 , 05:15 AM

#14986

YouSureSir

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,069

Might make sense, but again, question lies in why someone like louisxxx has not been tracked in over a year? So he only plays bwin specific tables? Sounds like something wrong there when a player ONLY plays specific tables ever!!! Like seriously? So either its segregated and being exploited, or its bwin specific and again being exploited, which makes me wonder why they would even allow bwin specific.

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03-23-2014 , 05:30 AM

#14987

twopoundroo

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 137

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Originally Posted by Lessu

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=14935

Thanks for the link

Wow that is really deceptive. It doesn't say that in the T & C.

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Specific Promotional Terms and Conditions:

The promoter of the ‘Points Hunt’ promotion is ElectraWorks Limited, a company registered in Gibraltar with company number 94014 and whose registered office is situated at Suite 6, Atlantic Suites, Europort Avenue, Gibraltar

The ‘Points Hunt’ promotion will commence on 17th March at 00:00 ET and will end on 30th March at 23:59 ET (“Promotional Period”);

The ‘Points Hunt’ is a weekly promotion which commences each Monday during the Promotional Period at 00:00 ET and ends each following Sunday at 23:59 ET (“Qualifying Week”).

The player will receive a bonus into his account based on the points table specified above

The bonus will be issued into the player’s account the Monday after the Qualifying Week in which the bonus was received

Player will have 24 hours to claim the withdrawal restricted bonus by accepting the bonus in the bonus section of the poker client.

The bonus can only be withdrawn once the player wagers 4 times the bonus amount (“the Points Hunt Bonus Restrictions”).

The player will have seven [7] days to meet the Points Hunt Bonus Restrictions from the date the bonus is claimed.

Only points earned playing on real-money poker tables will count towards the "Points Hunt" promotion

A real-money player is one who has deposited funds into their account;

The bonus can only be redeemed on cash game tables;

By taking part in this Promotion, you agree to these Specific Promotional Terms and Conditions and our Standard Promotional Terms and Conditions.

The term 'fastforward' is not present at all in the T & C

Can the Party Rep please justify how incorrect / incomplete T & C, that are 'specifc' to the promotion can be enforced on players?

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03-23-2014 , 05:36 AM

#14988

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

well, there is a chance Party_Rep is wrong and you can clear the bonus at all cash game tables. we'll see tomorrow, i guess

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03-23-2014 , 05:44 AM

#14989

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

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Originally Posted by YouSureSir

as long as every account on bwin can see those tables, i can't see a problem here. i can't see any proof of that not being the case

and other networks have some skin only tables as well. maybe some recs want to play on those only. it's not like party who was forcing people to play on those segragated tables when they changed the default lobby to the system where you only choose your stake and the software puts you on a (segragated) table

as the player who posted the pic could see the table, i can't see it being the case with bwin

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03-23-2014 , 06:02 AM

#14990

suboptimal

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 366

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Originally Posted by Lessu

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=14935

The fact that the promo does not state anywhere that the bonus must be cleared at FW tables, but Party_rep says so is really astonishing.

Is it really that hard to put it on the promo to avoid all of this?

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03-23-2014 , 06:25 AM

#14991

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by Lessu

well, there is a chance Party_Rep is wrong and you can clear the bonus at all cash game tables. we'll see tomorrow, i guess

There is a thread on the ps.de forums where somebody got back this reply from support:

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Dear xxxxx,

Thank you for Contacting Customer Service.

Regarding your question I would like to clarify if did you get the $ 15 bonus you need to wager $ 60 to release the bonus, meaning did When you wager 4 times the bonus amount it will go to your "Available Balance" and you can play with it on whatever game you prefer and you can withdraw it alsow. You do not need to accumulate $ 60 rake.

Please keep in mind that "• The bonus can only be redeemed on cash game tables".

In case you have further questions, please we will be more than happy to assist you. We are available 24/7.

Thank you for choosing us as your online gaming site.

Best regards,

Petra,

Customer Servicetra,

Customer Service

Juk

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03-23-2014 , 07:09 AM

#14992

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

yeah i'm hoping that's the case, obv. just giving party the **** they deserve for these promos that have so much misleading and contradicting info

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03-23-2014 , 10:23 AM

#14993

nidzika

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 124

Hey guys, can somebody tell me is bwin down at the moment? Can't log in to poker client and their site is unavailable also.

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03-23-2014 , 11:14 AM

#14994

IoNlYsAyThInGsOnCe

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 380

lol! good job, Party_Rep!!!

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03-23-2014 , 11:22 AM

#14995

centebakkie

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,583

The last couple of weeks I have been getting these connection glitches for a few seconds, every 5 to 10 minutes.

I just discovered it is the cause of :

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Originally Posted by centebakkie

So I got to hand 54 when this happened:

I wasn't in the hand

even tho I had cards I was not participating in the hand

connor330 won the hand.

My DB skips UDG also. After which I got the KKT4 on the BB and was out.

I reported that invisible opponent in my #14121 post. Which was how do I say it ? Annoying to say the least. But this

WTF

When it happens at the second it becomes my turn my hand is auto folded.

Sometimes it keeps auto folding everything afterwards until I close table and reopen it with take seat button in mtt lobby.

No it is not on my end of the connection.

On top of all the other [censored] it's becoming almost ridiculous to play on the network at this moment in time.

But I would be throwing away free $ when i wouldn't.

Please try fix this.

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03-23-2014 , 11:38 AM

#14996

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by centebakkie

When it happens at the second it becomes my turn my hand is auto folded.

Yeah sometimes in SNGs a table will refuse to let you sit back in after being disconnected and keep sitting you out every time you try to rejoin - the only solution I know of is to close and re-open the effected table(s).

Juk

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03-23-2014 , 02:37 PM

#14997

centebakkie

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,583

Getting a few:

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Service status

You are seeing this page as your computer is unable to connect to our game servers. This could either be because of your internet connection or our game servers might be facing a problem.

Report from partypoker support staff:

Real money games status:

Status at 03/23/2014 14:15 ET: Very Good

While playing just fine.

(i hope)

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03-23-2014 , 02:39 PM

#14998

gotdanuts

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 420

Ok seriously ....

**** off with the pop ups on all 12 of my tables every five minutes

So
God
Damn
Tilting

Last edited by Mike Haven; 03-23-2014 at 05:07 PM.

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03-23-2014 , 02:48 PM

#14999

isplashcranberrys

old hand

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,390

I'm having trouble logging in...everytime I try to hit log-in button nothing happens. Tried reinstalling software and still nothing. Also getting the odd "Excuse us. We seem to have technical issues...." message. I know there is a bunch of traffic right now cause its a sunday but wtf is going on....?