It was over xmas and new year though so that prolly slows things down with all the non-banking days, etc.

Juk

I made a withdrawal after that date and got it already. there have been plenty of business days after 17th of december

I get my $ to neteller within 6 hours.

Although today it was ridiculously

Did another withdraw (for fun) and see how long this one takes.
(mind this is after approval, which is mostly instant)

neteller/skrill are a bit different than bank wires

why aren't you doing bank wires, centebakkie? that 3% is such a scam

is party down for everyone?



Edit: back up now...

same here, cash outs may be the only good thing they have going

In short : Because of my failing to be a working class debt slave (and absolute degen till 6 years ago) regular on the grid money crap is handled for me by the "Government Office for Financial Protection" which is awesome.
When I send poker profits through my bank I confuse that stable situation with unexpected variable and unpredictable cash flows.
Also I hate the bankers.
So I'm like of the grid but in a legal and registered way. Hmm sounds kinda cool for a poker player.

I also have GoPlayMasterCard but that got inactive somehow atm.

What is the best way to make use of the Partys bonus system? I mean is there any better way than to just grind them bonus after bonus?

It seems ridiculous to grind another 30k points (15k in rake) in 180 days to clear a $5k bonus..

The best way is not make use of it at all. I calculated my rakeback in the first year would be 9.5%.

I already have a party account, so no welcomebonus for me. On average I earn 200 playerpoints a day (pay $100 rake a day). To be able to buy the $5000 bonus I need 40000 pp. That means the first 200 days I play without rakeback. Then it takes 150 days (30000 pp) to release the bonus.
At this point I have payed $35000 in rake and receive $5000 bonus. But say I make $50k a year just by playing. When I cashout the $55k they charge me 3% which is $1650. So that leaves me with($5000-$1650) $3350 rakeback while I payed $35k in rake. This means 9.5% rakeback.

Last month I was looking for another pokersite to play. I considered partypoker untill I calculated the rakeback. Now I am playing on another site. There I received a welcomebonus of $1000 which is released when you pay $2222 rake (that is 45% rakeback) and you get your normal rakeback besides that which for me was 20% last month. After playing 3 weeks every day I received a mail: Dear ..... we are missing you at the tables , we have the following bonus offers for you..... So I chose another bonus of $1000 which came to another 40% rakeback.
So In my first month I received 65% rakeback against 0% rakeback in my first month had I chosen for Partypoker. You can imagine it was not a difficult decision which site to play.

You can buy 215$ tickets for 2000 pp if you're Palladium.

the first one will be a ticket for the 215$ weekly but the next ones will be converted to T$, so you can buy lots at once then play to convert T$ to $.

Still this is only 20%-21.5% rakeback...

Auto add-on PLEASE.

partycaption trial failes sometimes

Auto add-on PLEASE.

Braindead:Thanks. I do have almost 30k points in my account already but just recently checked out the ridiculous clearing requirements. Maybe I just grind a few 1k bonuses.. Also I can withdraw straight to my bank account paying $2 only for each transaction.

Leald:Thanks. I do hate tournaments but maybe I could try out some tournament series stuff.

ticket are the best money back in party

30% isnt 30% since u need to rake like mad to actually get the money. 30% is actually 15% or something, In other words, they have the worst rakeback system on the internet... at least among site that are worth talking about

No trolling, just really curious: Why would anyone still use Neteller to withdraw money if there's that ridiculous fee?

edit: nwm, I've read the reply to the same question already...^^

4 follow up emails to casier@pay-pro and still no reply. Though over chat they say they have received them and are investigating. And yes you are correct they wouldn't investigate until it had surpassed 10 working days.

Checked everything but it is just the same VISA transaction I always use which works fine 100% of times in the past.

I missed Palladium last month so lost VIP chat privileges which is a shame as I've found the VIP host to be v helpful in the past. 15 working days and counting and they can't give me a time frame as to how long their investigation will take. Frustrating.

Lol am i missing something? You still have to rake like mad to convert tourney tickets. Same thing except now you've accepted only 20%...

once you buy the tickets theyre yours (i hope, havent checked... never seen in my life T$ where u need to rake in order to use them...)

bonus once you bought them you have to rake even more to get your $ so by the time you have your cash, the value will not be 30% but more like 15%.
Not including the fact that using bonuses enslaves you to play forever on party since the chunk of point that you will have in your account after unlocking the bonus will be way too big for you to consider giving up on them
Not including that it requires a bigger bankroll (cuz of the higher RoR) if you go for 1 big bonus rather than tons of smaller ones

even if ur a cashgame player with let's say a -5% ROI its a nobrainer EV wise

Ya but to spend them you need to buy into tournaments to convert to cash and every tournament charges a rake.... So essentially you are raking in order to clear them aswell.

its still better do the maths

Best value depends on what your plans are. If you plan to stay on Party the best thing you can do is to choose the highest bonus you can clear. If you plan to play on another site the best thing to do is buy a few Ipads etc for your remaining points because most sites already give a high rakebackpercentage from the beginning so NOT choosing for a new Partybonus would not hurt you.

This calculation is only applicable on me for the FIRST year. Because I would start with zero playerpoints and have to pay 3% on cashouts. I forgot I would have 30.000 pp at the end of the year which I could use in the store to buy some electronics (I have no need for). Anyway there is some extra value in that so the 9.5% is a little higher for the first year. But If you are a regular things are better. You already have the points to buy bonuses.
Still it is ridiculous Party expects me to play the first 7 months without rakeback. Apparently they dont want any new players.

Oh yeah, they want new players : they just don't realize it is not 2003 anymore.

There whole approach is to cater to new players, making their site a pseudo-social-media-like-entertaining-venue. What they don't realize, is unless they can have states where Stars is not involved (like New Jersey), they shot themselves in their foot reputation-wise (and showcasing WPT on tv will not save them).

Soon they will learn that you cannot take-take-take without offering some sort of promotions-rakeback : even fish are not that stupid.

Also sounds a bit 2003. But I like the optimism, I'm in.

They don't want Rakeback grinders but rather recreational players that don't really worry about Rakeback.
You would be surprised how stupid the average poker player can be.