The BOT PROBLEM got totally insane. All the following accounts are from Finnland and play midstakes. Sorry if i forgot someone..

I_AGAINST_ALL
ILL_MIND
Hugo_BonD1
rollitohtori
Irrelevant
OWNDBABYOWND


You see up to 4 people on the same table. At the same time there are basically no finnish regs playing on any other major network...

All of these guys use different opening sizes for all positions. Considering they are from the same country and probably know each other, you would expect similar preflop strategy, but that's not the case.... But for the bots to make opening sizings different is just the matter of some adjustments.. And would make sense to make them appear play differently..

There are certain postflop lines, which are also totally weird, like certain raises in 3bet pots etc.. You just dont see, much of the lines by any other regs..

@party_Rep Can these accounts be investigated?

So i talked to the chat Support on partypoker. The only way to download handhistories is by manually copy -paste the stored HHs from the client?
How could i process this data then to HM2? I understand that Party tries to elimintate Huds by anonymise the hhs, but i thought i could still use them to track my own stats and progress.

What am i missing?

no casual tables anymore or am i missing something?

It's been 6 years since i last played at partypoker. The main reason was the terrible software, along with some nicklle and diming stuff that turned me off.



In the meantime, they stopped offering services in my country, but since then Bwin got a license and a few days ago, I had a chance to install it and play a bit.


There are a lot of things I see at Partypoker that I like, both in the game offering dept and the technical aspect with the recent software improvements. I get the sense that the people who used to run Pokerstars have brought the touch that made that site successful and it shows.



However, even though the software has improved, it hasn't improved to the point that would make me want to play there yet.



To begin with, the Bwin client still hasn't incorporated the most recent changes that Partypoker introduced in August.


Even if they did, there are two dealbreakers for me. The first is that I cannot maximize the table size to fit the height of my 1080p monitor. Whereas many people tile tables, I stack and I just can't deal with that small window.


The other reason - which admittedly I need to look more into- is the AFAIK lack of ability of creating custom mod. By that I mean the ability to edit the table parameters so as to move seats, cards, chips etc to our liking. This is an ability that the Pokerstars, Full Tilt, 888 clients offer and it's a big issue for me.


Think of it like this. Since I stack tables and I play at different sites at the same time, if one client window is too different from the ones I play, it makes my life very difficult. That's why I need to customize tables to my liking as much as possible. This is also why having your table window having the same proportions as the Pokerstars/888 clients is pretty important. In the older versions, the window had very different dimensions than PS and 888, the new one has moved closer, but maybe you can do better.


Please pass this feedback to your design team for me. Thanks for listening. I do want to say that it feels as if you re on a path to giving Stars a run for the money, please keep at it: We need it, you need it and Stars need it.

I just signed on to ask the same thing. Please tell me this isn't permanent.

hey guys I'm new on Party, can someone tell me how to get the mouse wheel to work for bet sizing. Right now it works but the cursor has to be in/over the bet box. This can't be right? What am I doing wrong? thanks

I just got this from the live chat

Oh man this is terrible. Why would they do this? For people that just want to have one table going for fun while they watch YouTube or whatever, it was perfect. Not having to worry about 5 Russian/Ukrainian/Belorussian 22/20/9 regs 3betting and 4betting their heads off was a nice change.

Why take these out and keep the Pot Limit and Fixed limit lobbies? They're obviously dead and unwanted. Poor, poor decision. The only reason I moved here from Stars is because Stars went downhill so fast, I'm really worried Party will follow suit. First removing full ring, now this??? FACK!!!

I'll certainly share the feedback and concerns, however, I can confirm the casual cash games have been removed and will not return

i have a few questions regarding pplive$
can i for example fly to barcelona for wpt500 and for example arrive at day 1a and play only day1a and bust
can i stay for lets say 1 week @barcelona and then fly back
and pay for hotels + flights with ppl$ ?
can i stay @ any hotel i want or does it have to be the hotel that belongs to the casino or a partner hotel?

Withdrew my bankroll after this decision.

This is how it works for me and I assume it's intentional.

it is insanely obv like you said I am sure that they are sharing whole cards as well when at the same tables the difference between playin on party and other sites is night and day

First Party removes full ring and then they remove casual games. Seems stupid to remove games that actually ran. Also seems stupid to remove the games that actually have the least bots.

I was very happy after I moved from Stars to PP,I felt valued as a regular far more than at Stars.
But lately after all those changes I am not so sure anymore-there always used to be promotions for cashgame players,now there are hardly any.You remove the casual tables without any explanation or announcement....whats next?

'ssimplee' too.
If they really only play at PP it is highly suspicious

HAHAHA
You are an idiot making sarcastic jokes about a serious problem Mister!

Actually I understand you totally, because I felt the same and thought to myself "it's just fishy trash talk from weak players blaming bots for loosing money" when reading about bots here over and over again, but after over 100k hands playing at NL100 FF, experiencing it myself. I just know better.

Trust me, I've been playing over 10 years of professional online Poker hence have some experience and have seen a lot of things.


It's getting obvious after some time that there is something shady with a bunch of players in the NL100 FastForward Pool. It's for sure GTOish bots playing and very likely collusion ongoing by sharing hand informations when they appear on the same table.

Anyways, I don't really care anymore. I've learned my lessons wasting my time playing at PartyPoker and I am gone for good unless there will be an investigation, exclusion of bot players, refunds and technical precautions to avoid it.

The post is dead serious. I play on all major networks NL500 - 2k and basically don't see any Finnish regulars there. On Party they play every day, up to 4 guys at the same table on NL500.
At these stakes the regs pool isn't really large, so you know who got what nick on the other network... Except there guys..
Also the lines they take, sizings are just not typical..

Last but not least, two days ago I called out here 6 accounts of regs playing EVERY DAY online. Why no one of them responded here on twoplustwo, claiming he's not a bot etc?

@party_Rep Will you send this for investigation?

I_AGAINST_ALL
ILL_MIND
Hugo_BonD1
rollitohtori
Irrelevant
OWNDBABYOWND

Hi, Im I_AGAINST_ALL and I can quarantee you none of these guys are botting or colluding. I Dont know Hugo_bond1 and Irrelevant, but I have coached other guys in past.
Theres no botting and theres no colluding, partypoker can check if they want, I guarantee nothing dodgy there.

Ive busted many bots on the site on past years, I understand your concern.

Btw how did you know we have similar stats, are you using illegal converter?

One day you wake up and open the client and see only solitaire and miner games availible.
That's Party no announcement on any game change. GL

Sometimes it’s better to stay silent instead of digging yourself even deeper..

U guarantee none of the guys is a bot, and claim in the same time not to know two of them...

I never claimed the accounts to have similar stats, because I didn’t know and thx party this info isn’t available legally. But you somehow seem to know you have similar stats..

Well, As I said Ive coached other guys in past, so ofcourse we have similar tendencies and playstyle in some spots.

And yes I said I know other guys than Hugo_bond1 and Irrelevant, so I cant speak for them.

What comes to playing mostly on partypoker, Its the only place with good rakeback now days, I can tell you most guys played on stars in past before they made rakebacks lower.

Over and out, not gonna make this any bigger battle. Feel free to whine more if it helps you. And as I said party can ofcourse check our accounts but theres nothing going on.

Cya.

..... so you guys are a team are you ?

Should we allow teammates on the same table ?

Ive talked poker with 2 of those people in that list and there is no team as far as I know. Also I know 1 other person on that list to be a real person but never talked poker with that person. I know I_against_all has coached players on that list but they are not a team because I would expect to have been asked to be a part of a team if there was one.

-ssimplee

No one wants to battle with you, neither asked you to answer here. You couldn't even give a simple response without making contradictions..

There are strong suspicions about Finnish players on the site. Many things just doesn't make sense and i hope the accounts can be checked to ensure the fairness of the game for everyone...

Unfortunately in the past bots were discover by regular players and not by poker sites. We used to write PokerStars for 9 months about oBorra until the account was finally closed. Unfortunately, removing the hand history made party poker to ideal site to run the bot undiscovered..