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08-10-2017 , 06:43 PM
Hey Party Rep,

I'm aware of Party their Diamond club and it's quite nice.

But the thing that strikes me as surprising is that there is no 6 or 9-max hyper/turbo/regular Sit&Go traffic on your site, so players are really only able to make it to the Diamond Club playing cash games.

Your main competitor has always had hundreds of SnG players playing the mid and high stake games, with the hopes of reaching a status that's sort of equivalent to Party their Diamond Club.

Is there any hope for all of the SnG players out there, that Party will make some sort of promotion/effort etc. in order for those games to be as popular as they once were on your main competitor's site? That was before your main competitor killed most of the action with silly changes.

Thanks for the info.
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08-11-2017 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dogarse
Overall updates look great, however the rakeback meter looks a lot worse have a decimal number to two points with the forward slash (ie; 2.27/25pts), old 3 line design looked much cleaner.

And also please, please, please do something to make stack sizes more prominent. Was really hoping that would be addressed in the release. It's still so difficult to see at a glance how much everyone is playing.
Agree with all of this.

Very difficult to see
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08-11-2017 , 11:27 AM
Hey guys,
When start the satellites to the partypoker grand prix austria from 5th-9th of october ?
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08-11-2017 , 11:59 AM
Have they randomised the seat numbers so even session stats are now useless?
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08-11-2017 , 12:49 PM
Goodday.

When i play the $2.20 CPP qualifier and qualify, it automatically register me to the next $22 CPP qualifier. Is there anyway where i can disable this "automatic register" feature?

Maybe you will say just unregister from the next qualifier, but the problem i faced is the next $22 CPP qualifier started without giving me the chance to unregister. For example, the $2.20 ends at 1.00 pm E.T. and the $22 starts immediately at 1.00pm E.T. , so i had no chance to unregister.

Also may i know how long does the CPP Final 10 x $10k Gtd usually take to conclude? 4 hours?

Thanks.

Last edited by lummy8; 08-11-2017 at 01:02 PM.
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08-11-2017 , 03:09 PM
My partypoker program didn't update automatically so Support told me to uninstall and reinstall. However, the download file PartyPokerSetup.exe does not open. So far, I have tried to login as administrator in my Windows Vista laptop, turn off the F-Secure security features, end the FSS* processes. What else can I try to get to play on partypoker?
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08-11-2017 , 10:27 PM
Goodday.

1. I played CPP semi final #143927146 and i am not getting hand histories at all hence my Poker tracker 4 software couldn't display anything.

But when i played $1.10 sat ticket #142183574 i can get hand histories hence my poker tracker 4 can display stats.

I wonder is it intentional for CPP semi final to not show hand history?

2. Will CPP semi final hyper turbo #143927111 , CPP final #143927107 and CPP semi final turbo #143927115 show hand history?


Thanks.
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08-12-2017 , 08:47 AM
When will the new software be rolled out for Mac?
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08-13-2017 , 12:11 AM


Guess I'll play on Stars for the rest of the day since Rakeback is effectively 0% now until the reset.

I like that party is increasing Rakeback but not paying for partially completed goals is ridiculous. Even Stars used to pay 50% of uncompleted steps.
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08-13-2017 , 02:32 AM
Here are the same 4 players playing 50$ Hero games only joining together, the same teams of two, 4 total

Party Poker security. Are you corrupt?
The amount of blatant cheating and breaking of terms of service that is going on and employees like Collette are well aware based on other threads. Either you're completely inept or corrupt.

I've been waiting all day for a respknse regarding a refundas well due to your junk updated software and your support is the usual no response

Pathetic
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08-13-2017 , 07:55 AM
Since party security seems to be a pure waste, I'm gonna have to make it public I guess:

There is quite some botting going on in micro- and lowstakes Double or Nothing SNGs. I reported some of the bots. Here is my original email (I will leave the screennames as "player1" and "player2" because I think I shall not reveal them (?) not sure) that I wrote a bit over a week ago:

"Hi,

I would like to report the following accounts:
- Player1
- Player2

Both accounts are either bots or are used by the same person (I would more likely assume bots though).

Please freeze both accounts immediatly before they get to withdraw any funds.

Here is the story behind it:

I'm a regular at microstakes\lowstakes Double of Nothing Sit and go's. All other regular players I mark with different colours, based on their play style. During my session, I noticed I have only 2 accounts marked red (based on unnecessarily aggro reg, spewy reg, etc). Because of that, I felt like doing a small research. The 2 accounts are the above two accounts that I am reporting by this email. What I found out that it's pretty much 110% clear evidence something is up, and pretty much clear evidence as well that this is a plain bot or at least the same person playing:

- 2 both accounts are pretty new, Player1 played his first game on 13th July, Player2 played his first game on 15th July
- both accounts play the same games ($1.10 to $5.50 6max DoNs) exclusivly, no other games at all are played
- normally they should, based on these various buy ins of the same game type, meet each other a lot in the games. The truth is, both accounts have not played one single game against each other. eg. both have never registered for one game the other account had been in too
- both have a similar number of games played, and very similar average of games played per day ( Player1 71, Player2 68), they also have a very similar maximum of games played in a day (Player1 125, Player2 122)

- both play very very different from the standard regular Double or Nothing SNG population, a very unusual aggro style, but the stats I have on them (only about 1K hands each) are very, very similar. I'm sure over a bigger sample they would be pretty much exactly the same. For example: Player2 3bet %: 7,17%; Player1 3bet %: 7,19%. VPIP and PFR are very near at each others too.
- I have seen both (Player2 in 2 cases, Player1 in 1 case) do an extremely unnecessary shove. Despite both playing relativly solid ( unnecessarily aggro, but overall solid) I have seen them do unnecessary UTG shoves on the bubble, for example I have seen botkin shove in 1st position with 9 big blinds with T4 Offsuit (programming error of the bot, or just a way, way too wide range for a spot like this, I dont know). This pretty much is what got them the red tag I mentioned. When two accounts seem to be pretty well and both of them happens this, this seems very unusual.

So yes, 110% sure something is up with these accounts, and close to 100% sure both are bots (because for a human this would be very very hard volume to play as well).

Please do something about it.


Regards"

The next day I found another "Reg" of this ring (Player3) with exactly the same stats, same schedule, similar numbers. I reported that account too. What is also noteworthy was that until my email none of the accounts had a day off so far. All accounts are of Russia which is worthy to note as well.
Fast forward a few days, Player2 stopped to play immediatly, while Player1 and Player3 kept on going for about 2 more days. They then stopped for about 48 hours each after. Afterwards, Player1 and Player3 are back in business as of now. Player2 either got banned or managed to cash out (going by party security, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter by now).
Yesterday I grinded some micro 6max DoNs again and saw another new Russian account (a created on 11th August if I remember correctly), same stats, same unnecessary maniac play, same schedule ($1.10-$5.50 6max DoNs exclusivly), and again no games played against either of the other 3 accounts, despite having a few hundred games played already.
I am also 100% certain there is something going on at Fullring DoNs, however I have no clear evidence yet.
In 2013 or 2014 (not totally sure) I also discovered a group of 4 german Bots on stars who played $7-$15 MTSNGs 18-180 mans, and my claim was right, they all got banned immediatly, so I don't just make up such claims.


Cliffs:
- Party knows they have bots but they just don't care
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08-13-2017 , 08:39 AM
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- normally they should, based on these various buy ins of the same game type, meet each other a lot in the games. The truth is, both accounts have not played one single game against each other. eg. both have never registered for one game the other account had been in too
I have been blocked several times entering a don / sng because of some close relationship with another player. So that might not mean anything. I agree though that there are a bots playing those games. One common stat is allso pushing from the btn/sb with different bbs.
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08-13-2017 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
I have been blocked several times entering a don / sng because of some close relationship with another player. So that might not mean anything. I agree though that there are a bots playing those games. One common stat is allso pushing from the btn/sb with different bbs.
I have been thinking about this too, however, the thing is also that they don't interfere each others session, you see one of these registering for like 2 hours without seeing any of the other names in a game inbetween (eg. fighting for "first comes first serves" during registration)
Especially seeing Party has removed screennames in Lobby during registering, it's not possible for them to just say "this guy is regging games right now, I'll just wait till he's done regging".
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08-13-2017 , 09:31 AM
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08-13-2017 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ICrushSNGs22
Since party security seems to be a pure waste, I'm gonna have to make it public I guess:

There is quite some botting going on in micro- and lowstakes Double or Nothing SNGs. I reported some of the bots. Here is my original email (I will leave the screennames as "player1" and "player2" because I think I shall not reveal them (?) not sure) that I wrote a bit over a week ago:

"Hi,

I would like to report the following accounts:
- Player1
- Player2

Both accounts are either bots or are used by the same person (I would more likely assume bots though).

Please freeze both accounts immediatly before they get to withdraw any funds.

Here is the story behind it:

I'm a regular at microstakes\lowstakes Double of Nothing Sit and go's. All other regular players I mark with different colours, based on their play style. During my session, I noticed I have only 2 accounts marked red (based on unnecessarily aggro reg, spewy reg, etc). Because of that, I felt like doing a small research. The 2 accounts are the above two accounts that I am reporting by this email. What I found out that it's pretty much 110% clear evidence something is up, and pretty much clear evidence as well that this is a plain bot or at least the same person playing:

- 2 both accounts are pretty new, Player1 played his first game on 13th July, Player2 played his first game on 15th July
- both accounts play the same games ($1.10 to $5.50 6max DoNs) exclusivly, no other games at all are played
- normally they should, based on these various buy ins of the same game type, meet each other a lot in the games. The truth is, both accounts have not played one single game against each other. eg. both have never registered for one game the other account had been in too
- both have a similar number of games played, and very similar average of games played per day ( Player1 71, Player2 68), they also have a very similar maximum of games played in a day (Player1 125, Player2 122)

- both play very very different from the standard regular Double or Nothing SNG population, a very unusual aggro style, but the stats I have on them (only about 1K hands each) are very, very similar. I'm sure over a bigger sample they would be pretty much exactly the same. For example: Player2 3bet %: 7,17%; Player1 3bet %: 7,19%. VPIP and PFR are very near at each others too.
- I have seen both (Player2 in 2 cases, Player1 in 1 case) do an extremely unnecessary shove. Despite both playing relativly solid ( unnecessarily aggro, but overall solid) I have seen them do unnecessary UTG shoves on the bubble, for example I have seen botkin shove in 1st position with 9 big blinds with T4 Offsuit (programming error of the bot, or just a way, way too wide range for a spot like this, I dont know). This pretty much is what got them the red tag I mentioned. When two accounts seem to be pretty well and both of them happens this, this seems very unusual.

So yes, 110% sure something is up with these accounts, and close to 100% sure both are bots (because for a human this would be very very hard volume to play as well).

Please do something about it.


Regards"

The next day I found another "Reg" of this ring (Player3) with exactly the same stats, same schedule, similar numbers. I reported that account too. What is also noteworthy was that until my email none of the accounts had a day off so far. All accounts are of Russia which is worthy to note as well.
Fast forward a few days, Player2 stopped to play immediatly, while Player1 and Player3 kept on going for about 2 more days. They then stopped for about 48 hours each after. Afterwards, Player1 and Player3 are back in business as of now. Player2 either got banned or managed to cash out (going by party security, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter by now).
Yesterday I grinded some micro 6max DoNs again and saw another new Russian account (a created on 11th August if I remember correctly), same stats, same unnecessary maniac play, same schedule ($1.10-$5.50 6max DoNs exclusivly), and again no games played against either of the other 3 accounts, despite having a few hundred games played already.
I am also 100% certain there is something going on at Fullring DoNs, however I have no clear evidence yet.
In 2013 or 2014 (not totally sure) I also discovered a group of 4 german Bots on stars who played $7-$15 MTSNGs 18-180 mans, and my claim was right, they all got banned immediatly, so I don't just make up such claims.


Cliffs:
- Party knows they have bots but they just don't care

Can you PM myself your username and the date the email was sent
I am happy to provide an email address if you wish to forward the email to myself I will assure its picked up and reviewed by the relevant team
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08-13-2017 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Haarlem91
Hey Party Rep,

I'm aware of Party their Diamond club and it's quite nice.

But the thing that strikes me as surprising is that there is no 6 or 9-max hyper/turbo/regular Sit&Go traffic on your site, so players are really only able to make it to the Diamond Club playing cash games.

Your main competitor has always had hundreds of SnG players playing the mid and high stake games, with the hopes of reaching a status that's sort of equivalent to Party their Diamond Club.

Is there any hope for all of the SnG players out there, that Party will make some sort of promotion/effort etc. in order for those games to be as popular as they once were on your main competitor's site? That was before your main competitor killed most of the action with silly changes.

Thanks for the info.
Possibly post powerfest
I will share your feedback with the relevant team


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Originally Posted by YodaBet
Hey guys,
When start the satellites to the partypoker grand prix austria from 5th-9th of october ?
These should get started in the next week, likely next Sunday

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Originally Posted by lummy8
Goodday.

When i play the $2.20 CPP qualifier and qualify, it automatically register me to the next $22 CPP qualifier. Is there anyway where i can disable this "automatic register" feature?

Maybe you will say just unregister from the next qualifier, but the problem i faced is the next $22 CPP qualifier started without giving me the chance to unregister. For example, the $2.20 ends at 1.00 pm E.T. and the $22 starts immediately at 1.00pm E.T. , so i had no chance to unregister.

Also may i know how long does the CPP Final 10 x $10k Gtd usually take to conclude? 4 hours?

Thanks.
These are auto feeders - the option is not available to "turn off" They will auto feed to the next event as per the tourney description
The final is dependent on the amount runner - likely 3/4 hours

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When will the new software be rolled out for Mac?
No definite date to share - sorry
Likely in the next few months
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08-13-2017 , 10:01 AM
Any chance we can get the 'friend' symbol at the bottom of the tables back? I liked to know who was online before and it was easy to check. Now I have to go through several pages to find out.


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08-13-2017 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by -UBetIFold-
Any chance we can get the 'friend' symbol at the bottom of the tables back? I liked to know who was online before and it was easy to check. Now I have to go through several pages to find out.


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I doubt that's coming back. The don't want you to know who's playing at the tables unless you sit at the very same one, at least for cash, so that missing is consistent with it.
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08-13-2017 , 10:53 AM
The thing is though is that it is still present. Just need to jump through hoops to find out now where before it was up front and easily accessible.


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08-13-2017 , 03:00 PM
Hi,I recently moved from Stars to PP.
I have been winning at Stars Zoom NL50-200 over the last few years,but because of the changes in rakeback decided to go to PP.
I openly admit that at the moment I can not win at all in FF 25-100,it seems like a different type of game compared to Zoom on Stars.
I played about 150k hands and I can barely stays breakeven after receiving rakeback.
I dont know what the reason is for my results,but the pools seem incredibly strong,if this is due to bots or anything else I have no idea.

Can other players be so kind to share their experiences here about playing in the FF pools?
It would really be nice to get other viewpoints about this for me.Thanks
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08-13-2017 , 04:17 PM
I prefer zoom over ff any day. Don't know why people think ff is softer. Regs might be more spewy but the ratio with human players and bots is pretty bad imo. And for some reason I can't win against the bots.
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08-13-2017 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ladysharrow
Hi,I recently moved from Stars to PP.
I have been winning at Stars Zoom NL50-200 over the last few years,but because of the changes in rakeback decided to go to PP.
I openly admit that at the moment I can not win at all in FF 25-100,it seems like a different type of game compared to Zoom on Stars.
I played about 150k hands and I can barely stays breakeven after receiving rakeback.
I dont know what the reason is for my results,but the pools seem incredibly strong,if this is due to bots or anything else I have no idea.

Can other players be so kind to share their experiences here about playing in the FF pools?
It would really be nice to get other viewpoints about this for me.Thanks
Same experience for me in 25ff... thx for sharing!
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08-13-2017 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ICrushSNGs22
I have been thinking about this too, however, the thing is also that they don't interfere each others session, you see one of these registering for like 2 hours without seeing any of the other names in a game inbetween (eg. fighting for "first comes first serves" during registration)
Especially seeing Party has removed screennames in Lobby during registering, it's not possible for them to just say "this guy is regging games right now, I'll just wait till he's done regging".
Is it possible it is just one person switching skins? I for example have an account at party and bwin and sometimes play for awhile on one skin and then switch to the other. And since you say they started playing around the same time maybe the person is just trying to clear two deposit bonuses at the same time. Just a thought.
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08-13-2017 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ladysharrow
Hi,I recently moved from Stars to PP.
I have been winning at Stars Zoom NL50-200 over the last few years,but because of the changes in rakeback decided to go to PP.
I openly admit that at the moment I can not win at all in FF 25-100,it seems like a different type of game compared to Zoom on Stars.
I played about 150k hands and I can barely stays breakeven after receiving rakeback.
I dont know what the reason is for my results,but the pools seem incredibly strong,if this is due to bots or anything else I have no idea.

Can other players be so kind to share their experiences here about playing in the FF pools?
It would really be nice to get other viewpoints about this for me.Thanks


You won't be able to win at any game in the fast forward pool. I was a winning player at Stars at nl100 at 3bb/100 over 200k hands+

At Party I was unable to overcome the skill field (im currently -1bb/100 preraback), they're too strong. You have no chance at Party Poker prerakeback.


I made 1 analysis here of what's happening with the regs in general :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...nl100-1673486/


My conclusion was that, you can win post rakeback if you're very competent. If you aren't then don't play here, you're going to be crushed.
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08-13-2017 , 11:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladysharrow
Hi,I recently moved from Stars to PP.
I have been winning at Stars Zoom NL50-200 over the last few years,but because of the changes in rakeback decided to go to PP.
I openly admit that at the moment I can not win at all in FF 25-100,it seems like a different type of game compared to Zoom on Stars.
I played about 150k hands and I can barely stays breakeven after receiving rakeback.
I dont know what the reason is for my results,but the pools seem incredibly strong,if this is due to bots or anything else I have no idea.

Can other players be so kind to share their experiences here about playing in the FF pools?
It would really be nice to get other viewpoints about this for me.Thanks
same experience. i know a few strong zoom regs who get crushed on ff also. your right its a different game. bot fest.
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