no **** tight regs grind 24/7... welcome to online poker in 2016

@Colette
I emailed support with a refund request after the MTTs went down, no reply so far. Should I wait?

Yes. Their will always be underground tools, the best recourse is a roll back to everyone using HUDs at regular cash tables or most people will be forced to move to new sites because of unfair cheating.

@colette What kind of promotion do we have coming this December?! Is there anything to be excited over this Holiday season on Party?

Go troll nvg where you belong, I was saying this promo is bad for the games and they are better off using the $$ on a different promo format.

Finally im registering for text how much offended i am with PartyPoker situation, this company since Bwin took party on it looks like the typical good business which get ruined by incompetent managament:

You have pissed off us with the segregation pool (you removed it)
You have pissed off us with the ewallet fees (you removed it)
You still pisses off us with your failed promotions like gladiator
You still pisses off us with the thousand of software crashes and disconnections that we deal.

Not happy with all this you decide to remove Huds and then the Room gets full of Cheaters and Bots.

I have like 10 contacts in Skype who offer everyone HHConverter for free if you play in an affiliation of them. Is so hard to see that these new accounts from x Affiliates and playing "mid/high stakes" all of them are cheating? I dont think you need to be Sherlock Holmes for realize about this.

Even the programmers of these HHs converter they dont even need to hide their programs, they know that you dont care and that you are incompetent.

You never listen to community, make stupid wars in your own and pisses off everyone who plays legit and later you have to come back and apologize. Is this serious in a Company? Even a Poker Room managed by friends would work better than you.

The most sad is people still playing in your Room and we try to give u good feedback and advices, but of course you dont care. What we should do is dont write more, dont play never more and say you goodbye forever, is what you deserve.

You have the honour of be the worst Poker Room, congratulations.

they removed segregation? Theres still casual tables where bots 1 table the fishes and we get none of those.

imagine how much the multiaccounters/bots are making on these tables.. its 1 or 2 of them for 4-5 fish

Im really considering doing this myself, loading a bunch of distant friends name on party and using a bunch of sandbox type virtual machines to 8 table the casual games. There's a few known guys doing this and even that little headsup rat in the journal/progress subforum "ilidek" or whatever, has been doing it for hu on ipoker/party for many years..

it seems as if party just gave up and im close to giving up myself

This. I would love to play on Party again.

Wow deff glad I took my roll out of party

Please do - they are working through a huge backload of traffic due to the issue on Saturday Be assured however they are working on it


No spoilers - sorry


I am awaiting feedback from management its not my place to comment on 3rd party tools
Our recent ecology changes are unlikely to be reversed
I have shared in depth feedback and comments from the thread with the relevant management team for review and consideration and await feedback

@botsonparty
You're funny.
I don't know you and you go on forum, on some random topic and write about me, behind my back, stuff that you never told me upfront. Can some reach any lower level in life, when he's 'biggest nemsis' don't even know that he exist. Highly doubtful. Give up at whatever you are failing. No ones cares. Even support didn't replay you back, because they also notice you are not worth time (curently I am doing a spew with my time and writing back to comment like that... mindset leak.... happens to all of us....).

I don't know at what planet holding lobby at mid stackes, while bumbhunting nl600 and nl1k is called rat. Neither do I know what are you talking about. As far as I know casual games on party are on nl100, it's my lowest limit where I test stuff why I would make an effort and risk my account on doing something there... Kind of pointless. I also don't have a clue why you are frustrate with Party. They have good software, they can chose whatever they want, it's their buisness you can either respect that and play or quit. I am so shocked about your silly post that I am not even mad I am more like in a: "WAD DA **** MAN! " type of mind. You have chose two sites where I almost doesn't play and BS something about it.

Anyway I wasted enough of my time on you. Spew from my side, ufortunately not first today. I am not gonna discouss with you anything more. I'd rather be in a trafic jam than making debates with people of your sort. Grow some balls and speak to people up front, rather than sneak around their backs and make attention wh00000r3 from yourself. Grow even bigger balls and quit.

This seems to be confirmation that the current situation is a desirable one for Party.

To clarify - the ecology has changed by adding software cheaters and removing barriers for bots to play in the games. That is how the ecology has changed. It's as a direct result of your changes. That is in direct opposition to the stated aim of making games better for recs to play in.

It can be hard to admit you've made a mistake, especially when you were warned repeatedly in advance - but sticking to a failed plan out of stubbornness only hurts everyone.

+1. But here the Rep prefer to talks about Promotions, Tickets and things that are useless.

We are not asking you to comment the 3rd party tools themselves but the situation that the recent ecology changes created.

Even if you can learn everything about the 3rd party software in question here and make a change that prevents them from working, unless you make the games anonymous, it will be 24hrs and there is another converter available already. Then we'll be waiting for weeks again, if the current trend continues.

It's been weeks already since the changes became live. Afaik, the HH converters were available just days after the changes. Is it fair that while Party plays catch-up, players with tools (against the t&c that you can't detect), have an edge?

That's the main point here. Don't put the players in this situation. Revert the changes and come up with an overall solution that isn't possible to be circumvented this easily and only then bring the update out.

And if you want to test updates universally like in this case, be prepared to revert if the outcome doesn't work, like it clearly didn't in this case. Not to mention players already warned you beforehand what will happen (like others mentioned).

Just got this email

will this work for bwin or just party?

I am struggling to understand in what if any way this was an "ecology improvement" with this current fiasco. Bots play and play more (well how you can even report bot player now, I mean if you do it is almost obvious you have a converter...) Honest legit regs quit the shaddy one stayed and now they break the T&C anyway so what stops them from pushing their edges even more by doing even more shaddy stuff?? Party encourage it anyway.

As of now it doesn't seem any different Recreational players are getting screwed by guys with HUDs the same way as always. The only difference is that some shaddy dudes make a bank selling overpriced converters.

I mean seriously at this point is your security /management team stupid enough to believe that there are some regs playing nl100+ and not having the converter?? I would be really surprised if there was a handful of players like that and if there are they will probably quit soon anyway or buy converter themselves (no one like getting screwed over and over again).

It is mind boggling they don't revert the changes and apologize for the whole fiasco. Their pretending that everything is fine is just sad. Quite a few of us give Party second chance after the segregation fiasco but this is too much at this point.

People should spread the info about it that at this point Party is the most shaddy site there is and if you play there cash games you will get screwed unless you want to cheat yourself.

What is even more surprising is that even now Patrick/Pleno is their ambassador . I mean they could at least ask him about his opinion. Granted he doesn't play cash anymore but he is super smart guy and maybe would explain them the end result of this changes. Everyone tell them before they intorduced the changes what the end result will be yet they still followed thru. Mind Boggling.

So we have a 100 Dollar bonus for December but to clear it we have to play against opponents who have a HUD? I think i'll pass.

They gave the bonus for everybody to get a converter ldo

Tbh I got holdem indicator but it's a piece of crap, cannot use it. Works on like half the tables and it doesn't show you folded hands.

Used it once then went back to hm2 session stats, hope I won't get banned or something

Holdem indicator offers hand converter? They are an affiliate for party. They should lose this affiliate deal if they are breaking the TC's.

Rob Young famously hates HUDs (for the right reasons).

Party and DTD become partners.

Party remove HUDs.

It's a pretty simple timeline, and done with the best interests of the game in mind. However, the naivity of the plan is remarkable.

I might be way off with the partnership influence, but it is clear that it doesn't work. It has been said, all party have done is gone from a level playing field, within the rules (recs can choose to use HUDs), to a point where said recs are still way behind the curve. Rec's and honest regs are now both being exploited by the apparent widespread availability of illegal Huds. So the gap widens.

Wp party, I wonder you is consulted before you make such rash decisions.

About two weeks ago I asked about the odds of hitting each prize in Mobile Multi Table Missions and got no anwser.

Anyway I have completed Mission 2 during the last day of that promotion. However there was something wrong with the mission's lobby and did not receive anything.
Sent email to support on Nov 21st but still no one replied.

Yes, Rob Yong did make this decision among others. It is a bit naive but they will not reverse it from what I have heard.

This has been resolved - please check your PMs


As I said - regarding ecology and a further statements - I am awaiting feedback from the management team
I dont believe I am the correct person to offer a statement on behalf of the company and have asked the team to review and offer feedback to the comments on the thread
When I receive an update I will share with all

This was a partypoker bonus - not applicable to bwin