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08-22-2011 , 12:43 PM

#2576

3.14RawManiac

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,309

*** U, Party, thank god I cashed everything out

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08-22-2011 , 12:50 PM

#2577

Gerrard48LFC

adept

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 991

Party Poker has so much potential, yet every time they manage to make the nut worst decisions.

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08-22-2011 , 12:54 PM

#2578

OMGKaraScott

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 391

5$ max rake in all +3/6 games? You really hate customers?

Cashout pending.

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08-22-2011 , 01:23 PM

#2579

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

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Originally Posted by Party_Rep

As posted above, later this week, PartyPoker will move from a dealt to a weighted contributed method of rake collection.

Currently every player dealt into a hand is attributed an equal portion of rake and earns points regardless of the amount, if any, they contribute to the pot. With the new method only players who contribute to the pot will be assigned rake and the amount will be in proportion to the amount they contribute.

We are taking this move as it is a more fair way of attributing rake and will mean that players who put money into the pot will earn more points accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Tryst_

#

WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****?????????????

SPENT AN HOUR ****ING AROUND WITH HOLDEM MANAGER, WINDOWS 7 AND THE ****ING CPU PRIORITY **** EARLIER AND YOU GO AND ****ING DO THIS YOU BUNCH OF ****S

TAKE TEH PISS MUCH?

IPOKER 60% RB HERE I COME, SUCK MY MOTHER ****ING DICK

+1

lolololol. Damn you guys know how to **** up a good opportunity. Another FTP reg who came over and will now be leaving.

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08-22-2011 , 01:31 PM

#2580

OMGKaraScott

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 391

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Originally Posted by Tryst_

One more time.

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08-22-2011 , 01:46 PM

#2581

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

Do the bigger bonuses clear at $20/120 pts or do they clear faster? I dont see it anywhere on their site.

Thanks

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08-22-2011 , 01:52 PM

#2582

Oink

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,308

The 20k clears at $4/5pts. Dunno about the 7k

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08-22-2011 , 02:28 PM

#2583

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

ah, so, very very quickly. Thanks a bunch.

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08-22-2011 , 04:33 PM

#2584

gerryq

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 532

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Originally Posted by catuskid

does party do any points tournys like stars does so you can get decent rakeback on your points even if you're not a high VIP level ?

There are some tournaments for points, but I don't think they are good value even compared to (say) silver key bonuses.

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08-22-2011 , 04:36 PM

#2585

gerryq

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 532

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Originally Posted by TheMetetrown

Basically for winning grinders this means the $3k bonuses are worth about 20-22% RB when compared to Stars/iPoker and their way of calculating. A+ Party ******s. The fish pocket the points difference and they'll never spend it or spend it at a terrible rate which means Party pockets the difference.

20% at Party, 40%+ at Stars, or 50% at iPoker? Hmmm, wonder which one I'll be playing at?

Oh noes, what will we do without winning grinders at the tables?

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08-22-2011 , 05:09 PM

#2586

TheMetetrown

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,287

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryq

Oh noes, what will we do without winning grinders at the tables?

So you're cool with paying more rake in tougher games?

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08-22-2011 , 05:10 PM

#2587

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerryq

Oh noes, what will we do without winning grinders at the tables?

are you completely brain dead?

First off, no matter who is playing at the site, someone will always be winning. It doesnt matter if its good regs or terrible fish in absolute skill, its just the comparative level that matters.

More importantly, Stars has said that something like 60-80% (I dont recall exactly, but some absurdly high number) of their business came from 5-10% (again I dont recall the exact number, but it was very low) of their customers. Who might those people be?

Party is digging themselves into a hole with these dumbass decisions.

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08-22-2011 , 05:20 PM

#2588

Tryst_

banned

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 5,093

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot

don't bother wasting your time bro,

party are obviously a shower of **** poker-wise just looking at the last couple months i.e the promo epic fail and missing huge player base opportunity with the demise of ftp

assume poker is just an add-on to their more profitable bingo/sports betting business so they don't give a **** about it

Spoiler:

Last edited by Tryst_; 08-22-2011 at 05:26 PM. Reason: #iaintevenmad

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08-22-2011 , 05:41 PM

#2589

Shaqalicious

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,795

i would have loved to been at that meeting when they decided "i know! traffics slowing down, lets double the rake!" gtfo party im cashing out and me and piss bottle will grind somewhere else

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08-22-2011 , 06:54 PM

#2590

Asidman

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 167

I sympathise with those affected by the rake increase, but I applaud Party for the change from dealt to weighted contributed. It's no longer going to be lucrative for mass-tabling, breakeven nits. Without them, I expect the games to be looser, with bigger winners and bigger losers. I'm sick of playing against players who are just trying to log as many hands as possible while losing as little as possible.

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08-22-2011 , 07:12 PM

#2591

Oink

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,308

Rake hike seems ridic. I wonder what the effect will be at the number of 3/6 tables running at NLHE and PLO.

But I am also somewhat positive towards the change in the method of distributing partypoints. My rakeback will prolly drop a bit, maybe 10'ish percent. But thats a price I am very willing to pay if it weeds out in the population of shortstackers/ratholers and mass tabling nits.

Clearly Party will save money on this, as this will benefit loose recreational players who dont use their points on bonii anyway. But to the extend Party will use this money to increase the advertising budget thats not all bad. Though thats a huuuuge "but", so whatever.

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08-22-2011 , 07:18 PM

#2592

czGLoRy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,580

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asidman

THIS

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08-22-2011 , 11:09 PM

#2593

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

is there a stat i could add to HEM so that i could compare how much rake i make with these 2 different methods

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08-23-2011 , 02:27 AM

#2594

abc

enthusiast

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 57

Well, who did not expect this or worse after the bwin merger. At least its not Essence. Anyway, bye bye party....

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08-23-2011 , 05:40 AM

#2595

Takeurcheezstfuplz

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 418

lool so sick 5$ cap nl600+ is terrible ! Games at this level are already bad, I can't imagine with a 66% increase in rake ! The 100% increase HU is just lol, no games are on already...

For the weight method, does it mean that if you play knda loose (26-20) you will see an increase in Partypoints ?

From all the regs FTP sent to the others poker network, I guess we won't have more than 2% staying at party lol!

gj partypokaaaaaaaaa

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08-23-2011 , 05:56 AM

#2596

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

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Originally Posted by Asidman

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Originally Posted by czGLoRy

THIS

hey nice avatar. durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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08-23-2011 , 06:22 AM

#2597

deathorglory0

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,463

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeurcheezstfuplz

For the weight method, does it mean that if you play knda loose (26-20) you will see an increase in Partypoints ?

if you are 26-20, i'd estimate you would earn slightly less.

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08-23-2011 , 06:27 AM

#2598

MrPete

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lessu

is there a stat i could add to HEM so that i could compare how much rake i make with these 2 different methods

I think HEM will have to release a update with the new rake method taken into account first.

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08-23-2011 , 08:32 AM

#2599

Lessu

Thailand Guru

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,069

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPete

I think HEM will have to release a update with the new rake method taken into account first.

well other sites use contributed rake so the stat is there. i was just thinking if there was a way to get them both showing so ppl could compare

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08-23-2011 , 08:45 AM

#2600

Berlino

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,203

I have no problem with contributed instead of dealt for rake/point calculations.

However, the rake increase is ridiculous. There are brick and mortar casinos that have caps of less than $5.

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