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01-31-2013 , 09:20 PM
Anybody know what Pr0enca69 is up to now?

He's already been banned from the leaderboards for the month for colluding with another player (see this post) yet he is still playing lots of $22 coinflip SNGs...

Playerscope has him winning 54.52% of 1228 HU games played over the last 7 days:

http://playerscope.com/pr0enca69/par...5282576&pnid=5

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Filtered Tournaments Statistic
Profit
$1,162.40 / $0.95
ITM
670 / 54.52%
Biggest BuyIn
$20.90
Biggest Cash
$41.80
Average BuyIn
$7.06
Average Cash
$8.47
Min Players
2
Max Players
2
Which is about a 0.1% event (http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx: 0.5 / 1228 / 670 = Cumulative Probability: P(X > 670) = 0.001).

I guess playerscope could be missing loads of games where he gets 2nd or there is some bias from the odd non-coinflip game played, but since this is Pr0enca69, "angle-shooting exploiter extraordinaire", it's quite likely very likely almost certain something fishy is going on here!!! Even if playerscope is missing loads of games (party can hopefully check if this is/isn't the case themselves using their own data) you have to ask why is he now playing $22 coinflip SNGs?

Juk

Last edited by jukofyork; 01-31-2013 at 09:37 PM. Reason: Copied in the stats filtered for HU over the last 7 days in case he tries to block them...
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02-01-2013 , 04:44 AM
http://www.pokermods.eu/en/mods-our-...category_id=52

Does anyone know if this table mod works with Table Ninja Party?

Thanks
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02-01-2013 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Nash_equilibria
Was there a court case or full refund of the first improper confiscation? Any links or details of the current situation?
For the first case, the judge has decided a month ago that it should go to through normal procedure (there is a "quick resolution process" possible for some cases). It should take a long time before we have a final decision.

The current situation is getting unbelievable. The fish/hacker who used many accounts funded by stolen cards for weeks CAME BACK yesterday on party. He even used one of his previous accounts. While the guy is still able to play with stolen money, most of the regulars accounts have been locked.

To my knowledge, at least one account with 55K€ on it has been locked and the money confiscated. It belongs to a long time HS reg on party.fr who won about 20k from the fishes different accounts. Other reg's account are still "under investigation" with close to no communication or explanation from party.

The fact that Party didn't even bother to lock the fishes accounts while stealing reg's money is very shady. The probability that Party is involved in this scam is getting higher every day. They basically let the hacker play so that every time a regular wins money against him, they can lock his account and take all of his bankroll. It's disgusting.

Link : http://www.clubpoker.net/forum-poker...-scam-spotted/
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02-01-2013 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
Anybody know what Pr0enca69 is up to now?

He's already been banned from the leaderboards for the month for colluding with another player (see this post) yet he is still playing lots of $22 coinflip SNGs...

Playerscope has him winning 54.52% of 1228 HU games played over the last 7 days:

http://playerscope.com/pr0enca69/par...5282576&pnid=5



Which is about a 0.1% event (http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx: 0.5 / 1228 / 670 = Cumulative Probability: P(X > 670) = 0.001).

I guess playerscope could be missing loads of games where he gets 2nd or there is some bias from the odd non-coinflip game played, but since this is Pr0enca69, "angle-shooting exploiter extraordinaire", it's quite likely very likely almost certain something fishy is going on here!!! Even if playerscope is missing loads of games (party can hopefully check if this is/isn't the case themselves using their own data) you have to ask why is he now playing $22 coinflip SNGs?

Juk
You need to have a close look at that coin, my guess is it's weighted.
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02-01-2013 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRuffian
You need to have a close look at that coin, my guess is it's weighted.
Yeah, but these are not normal HU SNGs; they are "coinflip" SNGs where you have 1 chip and are forced all-in on the first hand so they should be essentially 50/50.

He may have played some non-coinflip HU SNGs, but the last page of playerscope show nothing but $22 coinflip SNGs barring a single turbo and a couple of lesser $ coinflips.

I think it's most likely that playerscope is messing the results up, but since this is a guy who basically lives to find any scummy exploit possible rather than play poker, I think it's prudent to report it and have it checked out... He's not playing to lose money so the very fact he's suddenly moved to $22 coinflips (he was playing the lowest buyin ones before to maximize his leaderboard points per game), which by definition should be unbeatable, is suspicious in itself as he can no longer get the extra effective rakeback from the leaderboards.

If it were any other player I wouldn't think anything of it, but this guy has literally spent the last 4-5 years just waiting to find scummy exploits and then work them to death when he finds one...

Juk
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02-01-2013 , 08:54 AM
hello,is there anyone from bwin poker support on here?i have a problem and support take days to reply
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02-01-2013 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by alanc1985
hello,is there anyone from bwin poker support on here?i have a problem and support take days to reply
Lucky you! It took them 3 weeks to reply to my email so much so that I had forgotten that I had even emailed them when I received their answer.

I deposited on the WPT skin now instead. They seem more on the ball and have live support too
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02-01-2013 , 09:28 AM
Party has live support; WPT doesn't afaik... or has something changed?
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02-01-2013 , 09:32 AM
Maybe it was because I was depositing for the first time I'm not sure but I definitely had a pop up where I spent 15mins trying to get more bonus money from them
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02-01-2013 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Lucky you! It took them 3 weeks to reply to my email so much so that I had forgotten that I had even emailed them when I received their answer.

I deposited on the WPT skin now instead. They seem more on the ball and have live support too
i usually play on wpt myself,they are very fast with withdrawls and answering emails.

i requested a withdrawl on bwin yesterday and its pending,but when i went to make a second withdrawl,its says withdrawls not allowed with this account,please contact support.i think its maybe cause its my first withdrawl with them.

ill be going bact to wpt when i get my cash out of there
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02-01-2013 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jukofyork
Anybody know what Pr0enca69 is up to now?

He's already been banned from the leaderboards for the month for colluding with another player (see this post) yet he is still playing lots of $22 coinflip SNGs...

Playerscope has him winning 54.52% of 1228 HU games played over the last 7 days:

http://playerscope.com/pr0enca69/par...5282576&pnid=5



Which is about a 0.1% event (http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/binomial.aspx: 0.5 / 1228 / 670 = Cumulative Probability: P(X > 670) = 0.001).

I guess playerscope could be missing loads of games where he gets 2nd or there is some bias from the odd non-coinflip game played, but since this is Pr0enca69, "angle-shooting exploiter extraordinaire", it's quite likely very likely almost certain something fishy is going on here!!! Even if playerscope is missing loads of games (party can hopefully check if this is/isn't the case themselves using their own data) you have to ask why is he now playing $22 coinflip SNGs?

Juk
Hi,

We have checked the players coin flip games for January and of the 3787 games played 1893 were won and 1894 were lost therefore the game variance is working as expected.

Thanks

Party Poker
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02-01-2013 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi,

We have checked the players coin flip games for January and of the 3787 games played 1893 were won and 1894 were lost therefore the game variance is working as expected.

Thanks

Party Poker
hi party rep any chace you can find out why bwin poker have blocked my withdrawls?there support is terrible
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02-01-2013 , 10:17 AM
did party just freeze?
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02-01-2013 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
We have checked the players coin flip games for January and of the 3787 games played 1893 were won and 1894 were lost therefore the game variance is working as expected.
It must just be the playerscope site not working properly then. Thanks for looking into this anyway.

Anybody got an idea of why he's still playing coinflip SNGs without the leaderboard winnings? Is it possible to still get over 100% rakeback without it if you include the PS27 bonus or something?

Juk
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02-01-2013 , 11:39 AM
PS27 bonus should be over by now, PSGY is not paying anything extra since their contract with PP was terminated and I doubt he's got PE status, so all in all, it's impossible for him to get anything even close to 100% imo.
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02-01-2013 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by alanc1985
hi party rep any chace you can find out why bwin poker have blocked my withdrawls?there support is terrible
Hi,

Please PM me your username and I will look into this.

Thanks

Party Poker
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02-01-2013 , 12:40 PM
Is it known what's the new VIP promo going to be? if any

@Party_Rep: Do you have any ETAs for Zynga UK players to join and new software? Thank you!
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02-01-2013 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by opal
Is it known what's the new VIP promo going to be? if any

@Party_Rep: Do you have any ETAs for Zynga UK players to join and new software? Thank you!
+1 curious about these 2 question also.
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02-02-2013 , 02:17 AM
world domination starts on the 4th. can't see them running a vip only promo on top of that
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02-02-2013 , 03:59 AM
Update on the french partypoker massive scam (although nobody seems to give a ****) :

- guy with 55K confiscated got the account re-opened... minus 35k (he says he won 25k against the fish).
- 2 guys got their account reopened as well, with far less than before. Both say they LOST against the fish.
- one guy claim he played 456 hands against the fish and won 2650€. They took 8k from his bankroll
- another one says he counted 30 different accounts all belonging to the same fish. He's a net loser against those accounts. Party says he played against only 15 fraudulent accounts and took 12k from his bankroll. They refuse to name the fraudulent accounts or to communicate any hand history.
- Not a single player got money back from party.
- The hacker/fish is still playing on party, playing with either an old account or a freshly created one.

As you can see from this pattern, partypoker is letting the fish play with fraudulent money and is doing nothing to stop him. Then they proceed to block all the normal players accounts that played against him and steal a lot of money, regardless of the real outcome of those encounters.
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02-02-2013 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
world domination starts on the 4th. can't see them running a vip only promo on top of that
Didn't it start yesterday?
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02-02-2013 , 04:55 AM
It was supposed to, but it seems like someone realized VIP promo is still running so postponed this to Monday; wp
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02-02-2013 , 05:51 AM
I've just cleared my sign up bonus from before Xmas and have started plowing through those christmas card bonuses but the number of points to clear each portion of the bonus has increased from 2 points to 3 points?? Is this normal for partypoker to just change bonus payout structure with no warning coz it seems like utter bs. Has this happened to anyone else?
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02-02-2013 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by opal
It was supposed to, but it seems like someone realized VIP promo is still running so postponed this to Monday; wp
lol oops
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02-02-2013 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MyCases
I've just cleared my sign up bonus from before Xmas and have started plowing through those christmas card bonuses but the number of points to clear each portion of the bonus has increased from 2 points to 3 points?? Is this normal for partypoker to just change bonus payout structure with no warning coz it seems like utter bs. Has this happened to anyone else?
They changed it during the promo, but it only affected bonuses recieved after the change I think. Still, who cares whether it's 2 or 3 points requirement?
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