just wondering how does the points system in the SNG leaderboard work? i read the rules and terms but it does not say. for example if you finish first compare to finishing 2nd how much points re you awarded?

every sng you play nets you 1 point. finish position is irrelevant. any sng format counts except HU, there is a separate lb for those.

They should give 1 pt for 5$ and 2 Pts for 10$ stakes .
How is it fair if a guy who plays 500 10$ games gets less than the guy who played 550 5$ games . pretty unfair.
Leader board is designed by a complete moron imo .
They let hyper turbo and DON players play in the same league .
1 ends in <15 mins and the other takes like 50 mins.
It's basically a walk in the park for hyper turbo 6 max players and sng players get nothing more than 150 or 200$.

LOL!

Sportsbook client... "You are already seated at 4 tables. You cannot sit at more than 4 at one time."

4...? FOUR?? lol, is this a joke?

they have 4 seperate leaderboards and they run it twice a month. what other leaderboards are even offered for usa sites? nice to finally see WPN coming around a bit. It drives the action and Merges SNG leaderboards seem to be doing A OK. no complaints here, play more tables, get better at ur games??? i say that humbly

and to brag some more: aced gave me a $215 coupon for OPS on sunday and $11 coupon; just for fun as i am on Elite now. Merge making some things right i guess, just letting you guys hear some of the good

Would actually be the first thing they've done right in a long time.

Me too.

I got an $11 as well, didn't know what it was for.

same for me, but I see people playing more than 4 right now. Did they just change the rule? Maybe those people have been playing for awhile, and will only be allowed to sit at 4 once they quit playing this session?

Okay here goes, I have a question for all of us - myself included. Merge sucks we all know that, right? Yet we all still play there. We get on here and bitch and moan and all they do is the complete opposite of what they should do and yet we still play there.

It's not like there aren't other sites to play on, I think the increase in Bovada's traffic is evidence of this. Of course there are big draw backs to Bovada, no P2P so it's hard for stables to put their players on there, no synch'd breaks and for MTT players this is pretty huge, and those damn anonymous tables. What they do have going for them is a great MTT schedule and nice soft cash games, as well as fast payouts.

Then there is Winning Poker Network, this is what I don't understand. Why don't people want to play there? The customer service is without a doubt the absolute best for any US facing site, if not any site except Stars and it actually rivals Stars. The cashouts are fast and very reliable and the software has improved significantly. They also have player to player transfers. They have a presence on this forum and best of all they really seem to "get it". No, I'm not a Winning affiliate or shill, don't even go there. I'm genuinely curious why this site isn't totally taking all the serious Merge MTT and SNG traffic.

They've made good strides in their MTT schedule and they have a great new TD who actually listens to what players want. They are about to host a really good tournament series and in December there will be a great SNG promotion.

Maybe this needs a new thread IDK but I'd love to know why we keep playing on Merge when we could be moving over to Winning and making it a great site for all of us.

Personally I've played there over a year and I really like it. If they had the MTT schedule Merge had before they started screwing it up (and that was way before the last change) I could get in most of my play there, if they had the traffic to make the gtds Merge had back then.

I'm as guilty as the next person for staying on Merge but that's only because I have to to get in the games I need. They keep kicking us in the teeth and we just keep on playing there. It's time to stop, when is enough enough?

Sad thing, even after this rant I'm about to load up some games

I play at WPN as well as Merge but currently there are almost no limit cash games running at WPN. And for some reason even though their player pool has greatly increased, that increase hasn't really translated into their sitngos which is what I play there. I think that WPN has the most potential right now. And you are absolutey right about their customer service.

And although it almost sounds sacrilegious for me to say this, I would even give Lock a second chance if they payed their debts. With the emergence of Pure Poker, it's clear that there were other entities at Revolution that were just as shady as Lock.

So we still don't know what the criteria is for making it to Elite. Are people who are getting Elite winning players or losing players? Are they generally grinding out a lot of points or are they, like Max Cut, playing hard to get?

Dude - have you lost your mind? That's like Ned Beatty saying he'd go camping again in the Georgia backwoods if those hillbillies would just say they're sorry.

If the current sites keep manipulating the player pools, we may all soon be squealing like pigs.

havent read the rest yet, but No.

How can this possibly be a good move its like they just stuck the last nail in the coffin on making ppl dep onto a secondary site.

pretty airtight evidence that you're not a serious person in this thread

Pretty dumb argument.

I think I am going to switch to ACR and try to get some 6-max hypers going for the December promo as long as preferred seating is supported by HM2/PT4 by then...along with my 4 tables of PO if they haven't reduced it further by then.

Geezus, to play or not to play on Carbon? That is the question. I've read through far too many pages and didn't learn much. Doesn't sound good though.

Today I log in to find that I can now only cash 1000 points for $10.

I would love to try WPN if they could get some limit cash games going.

Bovada gets most of my action now, despite the anon tables. For PT player like myself, the weekly cash promos end up giving me decent rb.

keep in mind 90% of this thread is complaints. people should all take a second to think about what Carbon has going for it (compared to US sites). im not the best to list them but a few of the top would be: Best Software, LONG track record of paying out every player, large MTT field with varied tournaments running all day.


but how can you be a serious person? the two unforgivable sins a poker site can commit are cheating players and not paying out.

this isnt the first time you've compared Lock and Merge. one site is BUSTO and owes players $1,000,000+ that they will probably never see again. the other site took feedback from 3 regular posters on upgrading their MTT schedule then cut their VIP program.

have some perspective.

PT4 does, or tries to, I don't know about HEM. I'm having a problem with PT4 putting the HUDs at the right seat even though it's correctly set but it worked fine on BCP.

I've got plenty of perspective. You're the one who has just joined this forum. A lot of us have been very involved with trying to improve Merge long before you came around to tell us what to think. If you think that this is just about the MTT schedule the the VIP program you are way off base.

When Lock broke away from Merge someone asked one of their Reps if the funds were segregated. The Rep said that they weren't but they were safe. What really shocked me is that none of the players cared despite the fact that all the crap with FullTilt was going on. Nobody complained because they were getting great rakeback deals and great promotions. My posts warning people to stay away from Lock were completely ignored or ridiculed. Kahn who warned people a lot more than me was seriously flamed and derided for his warnings. Now that what some of us already knew would happen has come to fruition the late comers have created a holy crusade against Lock.

My major problem with Lock is that they haven't been using a workable business model. Just like FullTilt they've been using player funds for expenses. But quite frankly if they were to turn their business around I would give them a second chance because we really don't have many other choices in the US. That's my choice; you can make your own. I would have also given FullTilt a second chance if they had reformed themselves. Lock hasn't done anything thus far to show that is has turned itself around so it's really a mute point and nothing for you to get your panties in a bunch.

Those 2 sins that you mentioned, "cheating players and not paying out", are exactly what Jazette is famous for. Google it yourself if you don't believe me. When they bought into Merge they had a D rating as far as payouts went and there are many examples of them cheating their bettors out of huge sums of money. Jazette is currently running the Merge Network. Need I say more?