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08-05-2015 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
I opened up client and just now and was seated at SUnday Big Ticket Qualifer, but I never registered for it, I don't even play tournies... Did this happen to anyone else it says 11$ buy in, I hope they didn't charge me!!!!
same was quite a surprise, no idea if i was charged. Does merge not have a weekday high roller or where is it tnite?
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08-05-2015 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
Yes but the article says this

"The takeover operation has been financed through a combination of cash, new debt facilities, and a fully underwritten Rights Issue, with financial institutions like the Bank of Montreal, the Barclays Bank, and the Deutsche Bank committing to to provide credit facilities of €500 million."
Why would that change anything? Neteller and Moneybookers pulled out of the US years ago; the BoM loaning them money has no relevance.
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08-05-2015 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by morphingbuildups
I opened up client and just now and was seated at SUnday Big Ticket Qualifer, but I never registered for it, I don't even play tournies... Did this happen to anyone else it says 11$ buy in, I hope they didn't charge me!!!!
They've been randomly giving coupons to big ticket satellites. Got one each 2 weeks ago to the Wed and Sat tournaments. Had pre-registered the Sat. one. Money was returned to account.
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08-05-2015 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by norfair18
same was quite a surprise, no idea if i was charged. Does merge not have a weekday high roller or where is it tnite?
Merge does have a Nightly High Roller, however today it got cancelled due to a lack of pre-registrations, which usually happens a few times a week.
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08-06-2015 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Optimal owns Neteller. Neteller does not allow gambling transactions in Canada. Therefore, if this goes through, I would think the same policy would apply to Skrill.

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Skrill doesn't allow gambling transactions for Americans nor Canadians, the latter had been pulled out in January last year if I remember correctly.
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08-06-2015 , 05:19 PM
Does anyone that is familiar with how payment processing works have an idea as to why these withdrawals are processed in random order. I understand that there will be small natural deviations from the sequential order in which they were requested, but I can't even comprehend how a check from 6/22 was processed yesterday, yet we we have a skrill still pending from almost 2 months prior to that
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08-06-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatever_f_off
Does anyone that is familiar with how payment processing works have an idea as to why these withdrawals are processed in random order. I understand that there will be small natural deviations from the sequential order in which they were requested, but I can't even comprehend how a check from 6/22 was processed yesterday, yet we we have a skrill still pending from almost 2 months prior to that

The unfortunate truth is that people familiar with how it works do not go on public message boards and discuss gray market gambling processing. Don't expect any realistic answers. Uninformed trolling will occur though


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08-06-2015 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
The unfortunate truth is that people familiar with how it works do not go on public message boards and discuss gray market gambling processing. Don't expect any realistic answers. Uninformed trolling will occur though


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Thanks, Kahn

I'm not looking for specifics and payment processing industry secrets, I couldn't care less about that. I guess more fundamentally what I am trying to ask is whether it is the illegality of the operation or the incompetence of those running it that causes situations where it seems that requests are processed in random order.
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08-06-2015 , 06:11 PM
Yeah 3 months for Skrill is out of control, but it would seem the site isn't completely busto yet if they are paying out other w/ds..?

This is pure speculation, but I haven't played on Carbon in months and I am trying to withdraw the remainder of my balance on the site. Based on this information it would probably be evident to them that I do not intend to redeposit or play on the site again.

I wouldn't put it past them to have an algorithm in place to prioritize cashouts for players who are more likely to deposit again. I'm also table-restricted so I'm probably somehow flagged in the system as a customer they don't want in the first place.

It could also just be total disorganization, lack of proper record-keeping, and general incompetence.
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08-06-2015 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thegroupie
Yeah 3 months for Skrill is out of control, but it would seem the site isn't completely busto yet if they are paying out other w/ds..?

This is pure speculation, but I haven't played on Carbon in months and I am trying to withdraw the remainder of my balance on the site. Based on this information it would probably be evident to them that I do not intend to redeposit or play on the site again.

I wouldn't put it past them to have an algorithm in place to prioritize cashouts for players who are more likely to deposit again. I'm also table-restricted so I'm probably somehow flagged in the system as a customer they don't want in the first place.

It could also just be total disorganization, lack of proper record-keeping, and general incompetence.
i didn't play for a month and got 5k wired to me in 3 weeks
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08-06-2015 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatever_f_off
Thanks, Kahn

I'm not looking for specifics and payment processing industry secrets, I couldn't care less about that. I guess more fundamentally what I am trying to ask is whether it is the illegality of the operation or the incompetence of those running it that causes situations where it seems that requests are processed in random order.
If you don't want uninformed trolling, stop reading here.

Off the top of my head, I can think of 4 reasons.

1. They are being processed in order via different processors who have differing payment speeds or the occasional glitch causing payments to be made out of order.

2. Complete incompetence of those running the Merge withdrawals.

3. They have less than 100% of our money and are constantly scrambling to catch up.

3a. They pay seemingly randomly so there will be the occasional post of "Got max bankwire in 10 days. All is well."

3b. They pay some smaller amounts faster. For example, you have 6 cashouts. 1 for $2500 12 weeks out. 5 for $500 6 weeks out. And they pay the smaller ones first to keep 5 out of 6 people somewhat happy.

I really want to believe they have all of our money and it's all processor issues. And admittedly, I know nothing of that industry so maybe I'm just grossly misinformed. But I doubt 1 & 2 above are causing the problems. I believe the first part of 3 (don't have 100% of our money) is the root cause.
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08-07-2015 , 01:03 AM
It seems some U.S. players are eligible for bank wire cash outs, while others are not.. Any rhyme or reason for this?
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08-07-2015 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by thunderb4ll
It seems some U.S. players are eligible for bank wire cash outs, while others are not.. Any rhyme or reason for this?
No, likely just history with site and stakes.

I had the option until early 2015, I just never utilized it. But i was in a very small %. They took the option away from almost everybody except only like chima? that i know of in USA.

When they use to have live chat, a manager told me it is part to do with restrictions where I live. The factors for them include location, and volume of games.
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08-07-2015 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jayg320
What stakes?
.05/.10. Playing 10.25 now I'm deadinaditch there.
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08-07-2015 , 08:08 PM
information for everyone......

they let affiliates do bitcoin cashouts about two months ago and told them not to tell anyone. take from that what you will
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08-07-2015 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Four Dogs
.05/.10. Playing 10.25 now I'm deadinaditch there.
Nice gl. Im jayg320 on there. Look for me fishing it up
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08-07-2015 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by futurized
information for everyone......

they let affiliates do bitcoin cashouts about two months ago and told them not to tell anyone. take from that what you will
Either that's good news or bad news. But seems like good news to me. Hopefully they let everyone cash out via bit coin
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08-07-2015 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by futurized
information for everyone......

they let affiliates do bitcoin cashouts about two months ago and told them not to tell anyone. take from that what you will

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Originally Posted by jayg320
Either that's good news or bad news. But seems like good news to me. Hopefully they let everyone cash out via bit coin
Thats clearly bad news but not surprising if true. Just shows they are delaying payments on purpose to not pay players. Why do you think the shill affiliates support carbon so much in any way possible. Its to lead people to believe that Carbon is a legit site and a good option for players. Just so they can continue to make a quick buck off the players they signed up all while getting paid much faster if not instantly while all the players get screwed.

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08-07-2015 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mcc3504
Thats clearly bad news but not surprising if true. Just shows they are delaying payments on purpose to not pay players. Why do you think the shill affiliates support carbon so much in any way possible. Its to lead people to believe that Carbon is a legit site and a good option for players. Just so they can continue to make a quick buck off the players they signed up all while getting paid much faster if not instantly while all the players get screwed.
Didn't you just receive a check from carbon?

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08-07-2015 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jayg320
Didn't you just receive a check from carbon?
yes what does that matter? Why should I have to wait 2 years to receive my money and pay a 3% fee, while these affiliates get their money instantly? Meanwhile carbon lies about how its payment processor problems which obviously isn't true if they are paying out affiliates under the table in bitcoin. And have no restrictions for ROW players in skrill payments yet they have halted those and taken away many peoples bankwire option in the US. Amazing how anyone can continue to support carbon in any way.
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08-07-2015 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mcc3504
yes what does that matter? Why should I have to wait 2 years to receive my money and pay a 3% fee, while these affiliates get their money instantly? Meanwhile carbon lies about how its payment processor problems which obviously isn't true if they are paying out affiliates under the table in bitcoin. And have no restrictions for ROW players in skrill payments yet they have halted those and taken away many peoples bankwire option in the US. Amazing how anyone can continue to support carbon in any way.
I'm not supporting them. But I think this is good news. We just have to wait and see. And you getting a check and it clearing is definitely good enws. They're not running off with the money. I'm pretty sure we're all fine. Doesn't seem like a lock situation at all
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08-07-2015 , 11:13 PM
Maybe they were just testing out bitcoin w/ affillies before they go site wide. That would be rad. I wish they would just work with WPN or Bovada's processor
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08-07-2015 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jayg320
I'm not supporting them. But I think this is good news. We just have to wait and see. And you getting a check and it clearing is definitely good enws. They're not running off with the money. I'm pretty sure we're all fine. Doesn't seem like a lock situation at all
To me it shows they clearly don't care about their players getting paid but want to make sure the people bringing new deposits get paid. It's more like FTP than Lock, imo. You'll get paid, albeit slowly, but what happens if they get shut down? Do you think you're getting paid? I trust the other 2 of the main 3 to pay.

Everything they've done in the last 2 years has been geared toward getting rid of people who cash out large sums, why do you think that is?
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08-07-2015 , 11:36 PM
Anyone else lagging? I had to quit my session. Got timed out 3-4 times.

Playing from Arizona.
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08-07-2015 , 11:44 PM
[QUOTE=iPlayPLOhigh;47782508]To me it shows they clearly don't care about their players getting paid but want to make sure the people bringing new deposits get paid.

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The only people getting paid who bring in new deposits are through the "Refer a friend" promotion.
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