its absolutely wrong. Just because you/they disagree/dislike management that does not mean that it becomes acceptable to break the rules of the site. Just because options are limited, this cannot allow rules to be broken. Just follow this line of thinking to its logical conclusion and theft, scamming, etc all become valid options once you run out of other, legal options

Actually. a promo financed by funds seized from multi-accounting players might not be a bad idea.

A post report would've been cool, but yeah, no way that's going to be allowed here.

Yes poker players are greedy and the sun rises every morning. We take more offense to online poker sites being extraordinarily greedy due to the fact that we can see exactly how much we pay the site each month to play online poker. When paying $5,000 and up a month for a service one should expect to be treated just a bit better. We understand that merge can change their VIP program at any time, but they should also respect us enough to not take away rewards that were previously earned under a different system that we expected them to honor.

They restrict players for winning too much while having the highest rake out of the us facing operators.

But really, who can blame merge for how they treat their customers. They can do whatever they want and people continue to play on their site.

Merge can look at the example of WPN who treats their customers the best yet also has the least amount of traffic.

Merge simply has no incentive to treat their customers better.

What happened to the VIP points? I was told they stopped giving those out and you cant use them to play SNGs anymore? Plus the bonuses they offer with bonus money going into sports book/casino acct hat you can't transfer to poker acct is ridiucolous
Thdygotta change that.

Also when using poker mobile software. Please can support fix the damn table sound please! I would like to hear the sounfd when playing at the tables on my android. Thanks!

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How tiltingly bad is the decision to have the CarbonOPS SnGs only viewable in the selectors tab and not in the advanced filters SnG section? The reason they don't go off is that nobody ever sees them.

I agree for lower stake players or casual players Merge isn't a bad place. Like you said, you weren't getting much from the promo's anyway so it isn't much of a difference and the games are (artificially) becoming easier.

The problem is if you ever intend on becoming a solid winning player (even at low stakes) and end up with a decent bankroll and you get either banned from the games you are playing or restricted down to 1 table while everyone else you know is playing as they normally would. Unfortunately we have to deal with sites like this because there isn't much of anything else. I actually get pretty mad at myself every time I log into Merge and give them my business but I'd lose too much money not to and there isn't anything to replace it with. If there was I wouldn't be financially supporting these crooks. For a very long time after BF I didn't play anywhere else because I liked Merge that much.


If you're comparing a player who was banned from a shady poker site for winning money playing on another account and breaking no rules (outside of that) to theft, scamming, etc you're a complete idiot, no offense.

In case you weren't aware, players have been multi-accounting (in this sense of the term) for a very, very, long time and doing so legitimately on this network. Don't blame the players (and there are lots doing it now with no other choice) blame the ****ty gaming network you choose to play at. They created this problem, no one else and it is a direct result of the bull**** they are pulling. If Merge would quit banning their players you'd know what reg the new SN at your table is. For people playing poker for a living or making a decent sum from it in the US what other choices do we really have? I'm not advocating it at all, but when you don't have any other options and get banned for absolutely no reason outside of winning I see no problem with it and am baffled at anyone who does. (outside of their own personal greed and wanting the best players to not be on the network anymore)

I am a lifetime losing MTT player on the Merge Network. I have min cashed a lot and made the final table a handful of times. I have never withdrawn once from the site. NEVER ONCE. Whatever I win, goes right back to the site, time and time again. Since black friday, I have deposited approximately 4 K on merge and I am what most of you call a fish. I was fine losing this money as I viewed it as a learning experience. Getting in volume helped improve my game and now I regularly run deep in live donkaments in palm springs at agua caliente and the oaks in the bay area. Playing on merge undoubtedly sharpened my skills, esp. in terms of push/fold and bubble play. So I am grateful for that.

However, what I have seen from Merge recently is troubling and every other gambling site I have ever seen on the net that has acted this way has almost always folded, usually with the punter's funds.

The reason i am posting this is because I am a losing player and now they are restricting me to 4 tourneys at a time. A few weeks ago, I had a stretch of run good and min cashed in about 10 straight tourneys. So that is what must have caused the restriction.

First they came for the winning regs.

Then the losing regs with removal of rakeback etc.

Now they are coming for the rec players like me with table restrictions.

Even if I did win on merge, now I have to pay 3% to get a withdrawl?

I hate the Bovada software and I think the RNG is wonky. But I have actually withdrawn from them, they paid quickly and they aren't restricting my play. Hello bovada, goodbye merge.

jeez, yikes....
How many tourneys were you usually playing?

I usually only play 2 or 3 at the most...but I will register for everything I am going to play that day so sometimes i might be in 4 tourneys at once...so for me the restrictions aren't that big of a deal but I find it troubling that they are going to the level of restricting me who is a big lifetime loser on the site. doesn't make sense. that combined with the 3% wihtdrawl fee was the last straw.

I wasn't even aware they were running these till you posted this. That is pretty dumb of them to not have them in the sng lobby at all. I'll be sure to start registering in some of these to help get them started.

There's a world of difference between players having multiple accounts on the network via joining different skins and players creating multiple accounts unkown to the network. I'm not about to trust that players aren't going to play against themselves at the same tables just because they've been screwed by the site. As a matter of fact, the players who think that they can break the rules because they haven't been treated right are the players who I would least trust to not misuse their multiple accounts.

Where are these OPS sng's? Don't see any sngs under the OPS selector...

I think that he must have meant tournaments rather than sitngos. I haven't used the Selectors tab in at least the past year. I wasn't aware of the OPS tournies either. I think that they'll get listed in the Advanced tab next month though since they're listed for September.

What difference is it to you as a player if I play on my Carbon account or my sisters Carbon account that is any different than what Merge allowed to go on for years before? (hypothetically speaking of course)

In both cases I have information on you that you don't have on me. The only difference here is that Merge is manipulating their player pool and intentionally banning winners which in turn makes the site easier for the remaining players........

The gist is that if you don't want the other regs to have info on you that you don't on them then stand up for your fellow players and try to get Merge to stop ****ing everyone over. For the people butthurt that the good regs are still playing and not banned then well, no one gives a ****.

As far as the end of your post; What makes you think the people using a different account just to play on the site are going to use them to cheat? Why would these players not have done that before? While a valid argument against MAing (which again, I completely agree w/ you) it has absolutely no correlation w/ winning regs just wanting to play.

Cliffs:

-Winners gonna find a way to win
-lol Merge regs mad that the better regs are still playing(not you specifically obv Cruz)
-Cheaters already cheating anyway
-Merge gonna' Merge

when i try to contact support it says" this page does not exist" anyone have suggestions or experiencing the same thing?

Merge or any other site doesn't allow you to play on your sister's account. Just reading the threads in this forum you should know that players get banned for life for using other people's accounts.

Multiple accounts have been banned on all sites because when they were allowed, players did in fact cheat. That's not an argument I'm making, that's a fact. It's not a matter of some players being more trustworthy than others. Just because Merge is doing screwed up things isn't reason enough for players to do the same and turn this into the Wild West.

I'm not asking about Merge's stance as frankly I couldn't careless because they are scumbags. I'm asking for you as a player why it matters to you? Besides the obvious lack of information (which again, Merge didn't give one **** about the entire time I've been on the network).

Why would anyone care about getting banned for life from one of the worst ran gaming networks in the world? I'm already banned from all cash games and may as well be banned from MTTs because I can play 2 at a time on my account now. Golly, I sure hope Merge doesn't ban me for good! (they already did because I won't even load up the site to 2 table MTTs)

I personally feel it's a huge issue and the only reason I even address it in this thread is because the only way for it to end is for Merge get feedback about it from their remaining pissed off players. This is very rampant at the moment....... Trust me, I'd MUCH rather play on my own account opposed to paying someone to cash checks for me that I already get charged 3% for.

The pros and cons of multi-accounting really isn't for us to debate. For good reasons, it has been long resolved.

If sites pool their lists of blacklisted players or if a larger poker site at some point in the future buys Merge Poker, players who were banned from Merge would probably wonder why they had done such a dumb thing.

If you are dumb enough to get caught playing on another account (and not cheating) you deserve to be banned. Networks also aren't going to pool a list of non-cheating multi-accounter's. Especially considering the future sites we play on will have absolutely nothing to do with the current sites we play on.

And a couple of years ago FullTilt had nothing to do with PokerStars. A lot of FullTilt players are now banned at PokerStars, including "non-cheating" multi-accounters.

You don't have to be that dumb to get caught. You just need to use a VPN, or have certain software running in the background, or have the same stats as your "sister", or a myriad of other clues that can get a multi-accounter nailed. A site doesn't have to prove anything, they just have to suspect something to ban an account.

Again, if you decide to use another account to play on Merge because you get banned for winning and get caught you are very dumb and deserve to be banned. If you're not a moron it's just about impossible. Not here to write a tutorial though.... do what you will at your own risk. Cruz has a valid point to an extent.

Oh, and Stars and Tilt were (at the time) just poker sites(that we still can't play on and are struggling to get in because of serving US players). Merge is mainly a sportsbook. Merge has as much of a chance getting into the US (by themselves or after being bought) as I do finding $100,000 tomorrow in the parking lot. Sure, it could happen, but it won't.

If Merge were to stop offering poker in the US they could sell their players' list to any other entities, even on a state by state basis for a substantial amount of money. As far as I know (and I could be wrong), player's lists aren't covered by bad actor's clauses.

I very much doubt any legitimate US site would do business with an illegal sportsbook for their player list. Call me crazy....(maybe if we legalize sports betting, even then I doubt they'd want to disclose how they got the names)

You're also assuming that the new company would care what you did in the past (and we're talking about a minor offense). I've rarely seen anyone that has multiaccounted w/ out doing so in a cheating way get more than a slap on the wrist and the account closed. Usually the funds aren't even confiscated unless they are cheating the site out of bonus funds.Sites have always looked at multi-accounting with 4 entries into a 6 max game and playing under someone else's name completely different, as they should. I wouldn't be shocked if Merge of now confiscated funds, banned you entirely, etc though. I mean if you'll ban someone for winning why wouldn't you for trying to get around it?

The list you are referring to is a very real thing as far as charge backs go, but as far as cheating I think most non-affiliated networks ignore that info (if it's even present, I'd assume it is though) and take your business until you do it to them. I'm not sure on that, but I've signed up players that I either knew had been banned or later found out were banned from other networks and they never had a single problem. It's also been demonstrated here many times with people like iBooBoo that WPN happily lets play 6 different accounts.

Done going back and forth about it though. If the players with no restrictions don't like it they should complain to where the problem originated, the scum bags running Merge.