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01-19-2014 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by IHasTehNutz
And while Kahn might simply utilize ignore features, I'm a little more hard headed at times with the need to defend things I feel need to be defended.

There's plenty of people in the industry out for nothing but themselves - but I give you my word (if it means anything to anyone...I like to think I've built a decent rep here) that Kahn isn't one of them.
Your pattern sir is to attack the people Khan puts on ignore, almost immediately. You have a pattern on this. Explain yourself and why you give your "word" on the reputation of this affiliate kid named Khan? What is your relationship with this kid? You obviously know him well enough to stake your reputation on him.

Leave the players alone is what I say. Let them use this thread to give others their true experiences about this poker network. We don't need 'others' coming in and jumping on the players for stating truths that they experience themselves. Quit trying to discredit the real players, especially the ones with lots of money and are unable to cash it out in a timely manner. They obviously have more of a stake in this network than you do. You just care about 'numbers' and we all know that 'numbers' don't tell the whole truth.
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01-19-2014 , 05:09 PM
^^ +100. It's pretty sad people post what's really going on here and get attacked for it. Not only is it ridiculous, but it derails this thread from what it is really about.
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01-19-2014 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sahtno
Why exactly couldn't 5/10 run here?

Right now the rake structure at 3/6 is $1 HU, $2 3 or 4 handed, $5 5 or 6 handed.

They could probably get away with $1.5, $3, and $6 at 5/10.

Is the problem just that recs will blow their roll in 10 seconds? Is it really a big difference between that and 3/6?
They raised the rake to such a high level no players with an understanding of this will play there, especially without rakeback. This is a big reason the site is dying and will continue to bleed players.
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01-19-2014 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GLUIPERIG
They're not theoretical. I agree they're legit concerns. However, Kahn has always been up front when it comes to opinions and information. He's also never hidden his being an affiliate. I've also seen him suggest other site to people he felt merge was not the best fit.

And also, unfortunately you do have to accept merge running their games into the ground. We have zero input into managements decisions. We do though have the option to go elsewhere and let merge die.
People come into this thread all the time and complain that their connection is laggy. I never bother complaining about such things because those problems usually right themselves in short order and they're usually regional internet problems which the site can't do much about anyway. But that type of complaining is acceptable to many in this thread and I think that's fine

People come into this thread and constantly complain about the tournament structures. I don't play very many tournaments so I don't complain about the structures because I really don't know enough about it to intelligently add to the conversation. But that type of complaining is also acceptable to many in this thread and I also think that's fine.

And there is a myriad of other acceptable things that players complain about, and that's fine too. There certainly isn't any reason to tell any of these players to GTFO.

The things that bother me are the larger problems; the bad decisions that they've made almost on a monthly basis and that continue to happen on a pretty regular basis. These are just dumb decisions that they've made; decisions like getting rid of the play tables or raising the NLHE rake to the highest in the country or enacting other changes in such a crude way as to alienate large portions of the player pool, just to name a few. People and business' that don't learn from their mistakes just repeat their mistakes over and over. When I talk about these problems, I'm talking about current events, not ancient history.

When a business screws up the worst thing that customers can do is simply pretend all is well and let the business continue to screw up. I think that the folks in this thread who are assuming that Merge and Jazette don't read this thread are wrong. This thread represents one of the very few existing sources of feedback for what has gone wrong; and even the most thick headed network manager must realize by now that something has gone wrong. It's entirely possible that the reintegration of the micro sitngos may be the result of the feedback they've had to listen to.

As far as Kahn goes, it's true that Kahn does do a lot of good for the players. But he does have his own self interests which causes him to sometimes intertwine fact with fiction. There is nothing wrong when someone tries to separate those out. And if Kahn doesn't like what you have to say, you may very well get a nasty private reprimand. Once you get one of those you may very well see Kahn in a different light.

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01-19-2014 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
People come into this thread and constantly complain about the tournament structures. I don't play very many tournaments so I don't complain about the structures because I really don't know enough about it to intelligently add to the conversation. But that type of complaining is also acceptable to many in this thread and I also think that's fine.
Their MTT management has been something I've questioned often. Changing GTD amounts, seemingly on a whim, or eliminating them the day of the tourney don't endear themselves to happy customers - nor should it.

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And there is a myriad of other acceptable things that players complain about, and that's fine too. There certainly isn't any reason to tell any of these players to GTFO.
Absolutely. Especially the players - the only time I get a little miffed is usually in the LPCR thread when 1-2 post count folks come in spewing garbage. That type of stuff is what I'm not a fan of.

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When a business screws up the worst thing that customers can do is simply pretend all is well and let the business continue to screw up.
I've never truly understood the lack of PR from some of these rooms/networks either. They'd quell a lot of sh*tstorms before they started, or at the very least give people the idea they were on top of some of their issues.
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01-19-2014 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
As far as Kahn goes, it's true that Kahn does do a lot of good for the players. But he does have his own self interests which causes him to sometimes intertwine fact with fiction. There is nothing wrong when someone tries to separate those out. And if Kahn doesn't like what you have to say, you may very well get a nasty private reprimand. Once you get one of those you may very well see Kahn in a different light.
Yeah, I've gotten a couple of those private IM reprimands from Kahn myself. They were petty and condescending in nature. I lost all respect for him after that. Personally, I don't think affiliates should be IM'ing players at all.
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01-19-2014 , 07:36 PM
Guess I just feel this thread is getting out of hand. If people have issues, then make the decision to just not play on merge anymore.

I come to this thread for relevant news and I'm stuck scrolling through 4-5 pages of the same old posts from the same 4 posters. If you don't like the MTT structure, go somewhere that has a structure you find suitable. You don't wanna deal with the late reg or reentries, go to bovada. You don't want to pay higher rake? Go to another site.

The bottom line is this thread isn't monitored by any merge rep so it just doesn't do any good.
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01-19-2014 , 07:40 PM
in during derail about the thread being derailed
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01-19-2014 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GLUIPERIG
Guess I just feel this thread is getting out of hand. If people have issues, then make the decision to just not play on merge anymore.

I come to this thread for relevant news and I'm stuck scrolling through 4-5 pages of the same old posts from the same 4 posters. If you don't like the MTT structure, go somewhere that has a structure you find suitable. You don't wanna deal with the late reg or reentries, go to bovada. You don't want to pay higher rake? Go to another site.

The bottom line is this thread isn't monitored by any merge rep so it just doesn't do any good.
You're aware the thread title is "Merge Discussion", right? There is plenty of information posted itt. There is also plenty of discussion taking place, hence the thread title. We can post information and complaints at the same time. Merge reads this thread, they need to know how their regulars feel.

Like I've told you at least 3 times now, it isn't possible for anyone with a significant bank roll to just up and leave. Bovada gets almost all my action now and I absolutely hate playing there. Tons of players both reg and rec have left already which is why the traffic is so terrible now.

Would you rather everyone to continue to leave so there is even less traffic or for people to voice their ideas and opinions trying to help Merge bring back players?
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01-19-2014 , 07:51 PM
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in during derail about the thread being derailed


nice hand
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01-19-2014 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
You're aware the thread title is "Merge Discussion", right? There is plenty of information posted itt. There is also plenty of discussion taking place, hence the thread title. We can post information and complaints at the same time. Merge reads this thread, they need to know how their regulars feel.

Like I've told you at least 3 times now, it isn't possible for anyone with a significant bank roll to just up and leave. Bovada gets almost all my action now and I absolutely hate playing there. Tons of players both reg and rec have left already which is why the traffic is so terrible now.

Would you rather everyone to continue to leave so there is even less traffic or for people to voice their ideas and opinions trying to help Merge bring back players?
If you believe that merge pays attention to this thread, then more power to you. I think their actions since removing their sponsored section shows otherwise.
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01-19-2014 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GLUIPERIG
If you believe that merge pays attention to this thread, then more power to you. I think their actions since removing their sponsored section shows otherwise.
I know for a fact they read this thread.

Just because they removed their sponsored forum(which costs money) doesn't mean they don't read the forums pertaining to them. They are getting free feedback without having to respond to the **** storm they've created.
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01-19-2014 , 08:16 PM
Again, more power to ya.
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01-19-2014 , 10:43 PM
All this passion everyone is displaying for Merge to return to its "Glory Days" is wonderful... I hope you do the same by emailing or calling your local gov. about getting poker regulated in your respected states
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01-19-2014 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
I know for a fact they read this thread.

Just because they removed their sponsored forum(which costs money) doesn't mean they don't read the forums pertaining to them. They are getting free feedback without having to respond to the **** storm they've created.
It would be human nature that Merge would monitor this thread. Free feedback. What they do with it, who knows. What I do know is traffic has dropped over 5800 tracked players in the last 120 days per OPR. End of Sept peaked @ 23,100. Today, it sits @ 17,200. I look @ it as a period of bad variance and hopefully the coming months will bring a reversal of the loss of traffic. No matter what though, I'll just keep plodding along thankful I have a place to play. Just sayin...
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01-19-2014 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TechGenius
All this passion everyone is displaying for Merge to return to its "Glory Days" is wonderful... I hope you do the same by emailing or calling your local gov. about getting poker regulated in your respected states
+ a gazillion!
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01-19-2014 , 11:20 PM
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All this passion everyone is displaying for Merge to return to its "Glory Days" is wonderful... I hope you do the same by emailing or calling your local gov. about getting poker regulated in your respected states
I'd hardly call getting Merge back to where it was about a year ago its "glory days".

It's really kind of off topic for this thread, but I've done quite a bit in regards to trying to get poker legalized including writing blurbs in newspapers. Unfortunately California has decided to ring fence its players from the rest of the country which isn't going to be so good for players in California nor for online poker in general in the rest of the country if poker is legalized on a state by state basis. I've also written plenty of little posts about California legalization on 2+2 and on other forums. I feel that legalization really needs to be done on a federal level for online poker to get to the place that most of us want. Until poker is legalized we need to make sure that sites like Merge operate smart so they can not only provide us with the games that we currently want but perhaps can remain competitive beyond any state by state legalization.
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01-19-2014 , 11:21 PM
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All this passion everyone is displaying for Merge to return to its "Glory Days" is wonderful... I hope you do the same by emailing or calling your local gov. about getting poker regulated in your respected states
Everyday!
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01-20-2014 , 01:06 AM
seriously, how long are check-cash out time frame's on carbon? Anyone, thanks
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01-20-2014 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by geegeebye
seriously, how long are check-cash out time frame's on carbon? Anyone, thanks
It's a fluid situation, but my last 2 have been around a month give or take a few days. My current cash out has been pending since 1/7. I wouldn't expect less than a month or be surprised if it's a little more with the Super Bowl coming up. If it comes faster it's a bonus.
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01-20-2014 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by goodsaint
What I do know is traffic has dropped over 5800 tracked players in the last 120 days per OPR. End of Sept peaked @ 23,100. Today, it sits @ 17,200. I look @ it as a period of bad variance and hopefully the coming months will bring a reversal of the loss of traffic. No matter what though, I'll just keep plodding along thankful I have a place to play. Just sayin...
The general trend is for online poker traffic to peak during the winter and bottom during summer. The fact that traffic is declining during winter likely means Merge's best days are behind us.
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01-20-2014 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
If he ever get's all his money I consider him to be fortunate at this point. I guess he will know in about six months or so. Do you know how frustrating it is to wait half a year for your own money?
just to be clear, you're saying Merge will be out of business by July of this year?

evidence?

for people discussing legit issues with Carbon and possible solutions, this is the right place.

for someone with real information about Carbon that chooses to take his time to answer questions, this is definitely the right place.

for five months Synergistic Explosion's only presence on 2 + 2 is saying bad things about Merge. do u have inside information? how do u have it? have any of your predictions been proved correct? which ones?

and if you really DO think Merge will be gone in 3-6 months, and every1 in this thread will lose ALL the money they have in their account, why not clearly state that as a warning?

are you a liar because you have no real information backing up that claim?

or are you a scumbag that is fine with letting every player in here lose their money?
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01-20-2014 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
just to be clear, you're saying Merge will be out of business by July of this year?

evidence?

for people discussing legit issues with Carbon and possible solutions, this is the right place.

for someone with real information about Carbon that chooses to take his time to answer questions, this is definitely the right place.

for five months Synergistic Explosion's only presence on 2 + 2 is saying bad things about Merge. do u have inside information? how do u have it? have any of your predictions been proved correct? which ones?

and if you really DO think Merge will be gone in 3-6 months, and every1 in this thread will lose ALL the money they have in their account, why not clearly state that as a warning?

are you a liar because you have no real information backing up that claim?

or are you a scumbag that is fine with letting every player in here lose their money?
LOL, if he keeps winning more than he can cash out of course he will be fortunate if he ever gets all his money. You seem paranoid and a bit hysteric. Calm down and think before you write.
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01-20-2014 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sahtno
Why exactly couldn't 5/10 run here?

Right now the rake structure at 3/6 is $1 HU, $2 3 or 4 handed, $5 5 or 6 handed.

They could probably get away with $1.5, $3, and $6 at 5/10.

Is the problem just that recs will blow their roll in 10 seconds? Is it really a big difference between that and 3/6?
I've also tried Carbon at microstakes.
Well you will be killed by their rake. I don't know about the higher limits but it is almost impossible to make profit playing NL4-NL10 there.

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01-20-2014 , 05:47 AM
What's everyone complaing about? the players have dropped but with all the rebuys from late reg i don't think their really even losing much money compared to before the new schedule. Also the top earners are still making over 10k a month or more. So it just feels like the the complainers are looking for a excuse to why their not making money. There is definitely money that can still be made on merge.
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