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05-09-2020 , 02:09 PM
Does anyone know what options are if you win 2 satty tickets to the same MTT?

I am wondering what happens if I win multiple tickets to same WSOPC event.

P.S. The first one pre-regs you and you're unable to unreg in case anyone was wondering.
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05-10-2020 , 12:51 AM
They write in the T&C that they dont tolerate bumhunting.

So if you sit tables with recs you get banned ?

I would like to play here but this keeps me from making an account so far.
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05-10-2020 , 05:11 AM
Hi everyone,

Need your help if possible. Does anyone know the lowest risk method of accumulating Fish points and releasing a welcome bonus.

I prefer to avoid cash games in general and focus on tournaments, but I find myself playing cash games in pursuit of points. I am not comfortable with the level of risk/variance downswings if playing higher stakes.

I've found that AoF is fairly low risk but its too slow to generate points this way.

I have 25000 out of a 40000 target (Bronze Whale) expiring on the 17th May.

Thanks in advance
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05-10-2020 , 01:18 PM
have a question about ratholing, when i play rush &cash im leaving the table at 150bb and start a new one is it also against rules or? I cant play deepstacks....
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05-10-2020 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sn0112
Hi everyone,

Need your help if possible. Does anyone know the lowest risk method of accumulating Fish points and releasing a welcome bonus.

I prefer to avoid cash games in general and focus on tournaments, but I find myself playing cash games in pursuit of points. I am not comfortable with the level of risk/variance downswings if playing higher stakes.

I've found that AoF is fairly low risk but its too slow to generate points this way.

I have 25000 out of a 40000 target (Bronze Whale) expiring on the 17th May.

Thanks in advance
AoF is for sure the most risky game...
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05-10-2020 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wacker1913
AoF is for sure the most risky game...
Sounds crazy, but my AoF sessions are generally profitable, particulary if I exceed 100 hands. I have even won the jackpot twice! I only play the lowest stake to minimise my risk.

However, lowest stake AoF barely gets any points. I try cash games, but have to keep increasing stakes to speed up the points.
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05-10-2020 , 09:45 PM


GGPoker for the first time had more players online than Pokerstars.
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05-11-2020 , 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Speck CHAMP


GGPoker for the first time had more players online than Pokerstars.
viva GG
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05-11-2020 , 06:05 AM
Kind of funny that everybody assumed party is taking the 1st place with the rbs and races but no. GG with similar shady rb deals as stars is taking over. Not to mention the you can't win from bad players playing cash rules.
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05-11-2020 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by IcanDoEverything
They write in the T&C that they dont tolerate bumhunting.

So if you sit tables with recs you get banned ?

I would like to play here but this keeps me from making an account so far.
Theres always a first warning sent to you
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05-11-2020 , 09:38 AM
can someone give me some basic info about GG please. Will they have STT anytime soon? Is there a note taking feature on the client? PT4 not allowed right? Thanks!
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05-11-2020 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
can someone give me some basic info about GG please. Will they have STT anytime soon? Is there a note taking feature on the client? PT4 not allowed right? Thanks!
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05-11-2020 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
can someone give me some basic info about GG please. Will they have STT anytime soon? Is there a note taking feature on the client? PT4 not allowed right? Thanks!
Hi,

Q: Will they have STT anytime soon?
A: Not sure on their future plans for STT. If you are selective you can find relatively small field tournaments (in the hundreds).

Q: PT4 not allowed right?
A: You can import hand histories into PT4 to replay and study but the names of your opponents are replaced with generic numbers. PT4 HUD (or any other) is blocked while playing but GG provide their own basic HUD stats:

VPIP% (no other stats are provided)
Total hands vs each specific opponent
Hands won vs each specific opponent

Weak table selection is frowned upon (see previous posts in this thread), so if you're using a HUD and targeting tables then it might not be for you.

Q: Is there a note taking feature on the client?
A: Yes, a text box for entry. The notes are shown along with the HUD stats (when clicking on an oppponent's screen-name).
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05-11-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sn0112
Hi everyone,

Need your help if possible. Does anyone know the lowest risk method of accumulating Fish points and releasing a welcome bonus.

I prefer to avoid cash games in general and focus on tournaments, but I find myself playing cash games in pursuit of points. I am not comfortable with the level of risk/variance downswings if playing higher stakes.

I've found that AoF is fairly low risk but its too slow to generate points this way.

I have 25000 out of a 40000 target (Bronze Whale) expiring on the 17th May.

Thanks in advance
$1/$2 AOF is a good way to get points quickly. I've had swings of around $200 at most I think at the PLO.
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05-12-2020 , 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sn0112
Hi,

Q: Will they have STT anytime soon?
A: Not sure on their future plans for STT. If you are selective you can find relatively small field tournaments (in the hundreds).

Q: PT4 not allowed right?
A: You can import hand histories into PT4 to replay and study but the names of your opponents are replaced with generic numbers. PT4 HUD (or any other) is blocked while playing but GG provide their own basic HUD stats:

VPIP% (no other stats are provided)
Total hands vs each specific opponent
Hands won vs each specific opponent

Weak table selection is frowned upon (see previous posts in this thread), so if you're using a HUD and targeting tables then it might not be for you.

Q: Is there a note taking feature on the client?
A: Yes, a text box for entry. The notes are shown along with the HUD stats (when clicking on an oppponent's screen-name).
Thanks!
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05-12-2020 , 10:59 AM
Hi guys,

I just want to share my experience with GG Network.

I started playing there about 8 months ago. I was one of the biggest winners on NL500 - NL5000. Everything was fine until I got 2 warnings out of nowhere for 'bumhunting and predatory behavior'. I was shocked since I was a guy who started almost all tables and played versus all regs including HU. In their warning messages they said that they recorded 14 sessions where I bumhunted 3 players (all top regs lol). I tried to ask support to give me exact reason what I did wrong but they just kept saying same things about bumhunting etc. They told me that 3rd warning will be the last one and that they will confiscate my money after that. I already knew that some known players were banned because of the same reason so I stopped playing there immediately.

So after some time of not playing at all on GG my affiliate suggested me to change skin and start to play under new account which is allowed by their rules and keep my bankroll on the site as low as possible. Both for the same reason - minimising the risk. At this point my problems started. I was disconnected every session and kicked from all tables even when I was involved in big pots (I was playing 12 tables on average so it costed me a lot). They claimed that the problem is on my side which was not true since everything else worked perfectly. Their support even stopped to communicate with me on some point or just being rude and unprofessional. At the same time I experienced one of the sickest run in my career (90k under EV in 150k hands where 97% of my volume was NL500-NL1000). At NL5000 where games are almost always with 20bb effective stack I was 50+ stacks under EV in 5600 hands (run it 3 times are missing since HM3 is not importing them):

https://gyazo.com/42d88dc0b83627704c638cc0ee1ebeba

Maybe I'm biased because of that run but GG Network is definitely the last poker site that I would recommend to anyone:

-they probably take most rake of all poker sites but still have very unstable software
-they reward system is pure scam (Natural8 support even admitted to me in one email that their spins were NOT random until October or November 2019)
-their attitude towards winning players is just horrible (banning and taking money for no reason, lowering rakeback when winning to much)

The fact is that if you are a big winner you are not welcomed there and they will do everything to make you go away. It was the worst experience in my 10 years career of playing poker by far.

Last edited by GGnetwork1234; 05-12-2020 at 11:10 AM.
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05-12-2020 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GGnetwork1234
Hi guys,

I just want to share my experience with GG Network.

I started playing there about 8 months ago. I was one of the biggest winners on NL500 - NL5000. Everything was fine until I got 2 warnings out of nowhere for 'bumhunting and predatory behavior'. I was shocked since I was a guy who started almost all tables and played versus all regs including HU. In their warning messages they said that they recorded 14 sessions where I bumhunted 3 players (all top regs lol). I tried to ask support to give me exact reason what I did wrong but they just kept saying same things about bumhunting etc. They told me that 3rd warning will be the last one and that they will confiscate my money after that. I already knew that some known players were banned because of the same reason so I stopped playing there immediately.

So after some time of not playing at all on GG my affiliate suggested me to change skin and start to play under new account which is allowed by their rules and keep my bankroll on the site as low as possible. Both for the same reason - minimising the risk. At this point my problems started. I was disconnected every session and kicked from all tables even when I was involved in big pots (I was playing 12 tables on average so it costed me a lot). They claimed that the problem is on my side which was not true since everything else worked perfectly. Their support even stopped to communicate with me on some point or just being rude and unprofessional. At the same time I experienced one of the sickest run in my career (90k under EV in 150k hands where 97% of my volume was NL500-NL1000). At NL5000 where games are almost always with 20bb effective stack I was 50+ stacks under EV in 5600 hands (run it 3 times are missing since HM3 is not importing them):

https://gyazo.com/42d88dc0b83627704c638cc0ee1ebeba

Maybe I'm biased because of that run but GG Network is definitely the last poker site that I would recommend to anyone:

-they probably take most rake of all poker sites but still have very unstable software
-they reward system is pure scam (Natural8 support even admitted to me in one email that their spins were NOT random until October or November 2019)
-their attitude towards winning players is just horrible (banning and taking money for no reason, lowering rakeback when winning to much)

The fact is that if you are a big winner you are not welcomed there and they will do everything to make you go away. It was the worst experience in my 10 years career of playing poker by far.
Nice try Pokerstars maybe more infos mails etc? Your screenname?
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05-12-2020 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkey_Donkey
Nice try Pokerstars maybe more infos mails etc? Your screenname?
Have you even read this thread? Everything ggn said has happened to several people in the past. Bumhunting I mean
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05-12-2020 , 01:19 PM
GG - biggest rake trap ever
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05-12-2020 , 04:15 PM
NL100 rake = 12bb/100

Rake trap much? I guess fish dont care about rake.
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05-13-2020 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ariandar
NL100 rake = 12bb/100



Rake trap much? I guess fish dont care about rake.
What is WPN compared to that?
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05-13-2020 , 09:32 AM
This rake system that is not static - is quite bad IMO. I also make profit according to graphs, but then I see my Account (it was 1 month playing in this room), and there I have ,,minus" I wrote letter to Best poker room.:

Can you explain then, why my balance is negative, nor should be positive:
+168.04 $ Profit (form all types of poker: ALLinorFOLD, Rush&Cash, MTT, Spins)
+185.75 $ Profit from other bonus (Daily leaderboard-rush&cash, Welcome bonus, Fish buffet, excludes spins when I reached the goal)
- 154 $ Rake (according that 2$ increment are paid when I reach 10$ rake)
To sum up - I got +199.79 $ (Ok, if the All-In Insurance Premium is reducted, it cant be like around 265$ minus of this, because at this moment I have 100.55$ in my Best poker room account, when I deposited around 165$)

The answer:

Please note that PokerCraft shows your statistics without the rake, that is why your calculation does not match with information in PokerCraft. Unfortunately there is nothing we could do as this is how the network works.

Welcome bonus FP calculation is affected also by each players personal PVI which is calculated by GGNetwork, most probably this is the reason why you have not received FP.

More info about PVI system on the network can be found:
https://www.bestpoker.com/marketing/network-rules/
Rule 1.5. & Rule 4.
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05-13-2020 , 07:54 PM
can someone verify if there is still rake taken before flops hit? Like if you 3bet T9s to 10bb and the guy folds, does it still take rake?

would it be 5% of this? so like 0.5bb is taken? 0.25cents at 50nl?

this would mean that any range you 3bet would need to profit at a winrate higher than 50bb/100 I would think for it to be profitable

Last edited by p0ker_n00b; 05-13-2020 at 08:15 PM.
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05-13-2020 , 09:32 PM
I just make some calculation

I was thinking with the first bonus deposit + extra rb + rb (45% now i am) it will be good.

But apparently no.... if i calculate well in 1k i paid 10.6bb/100 rb include when in other site i paid like 3.8bb/100 rb include ..

I really like the software but the huge rake + the small stack size of the players its enough for me to stop this ...

Maybe will try some Mtt that's all
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05-14-2020 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
can someone verify if there is still rake taken before flops hit? Like if you 3bet T9s to 10bb and the guy folds, does it still take rake?

would it be 5% of this? so like 0.5bb is taken? 0.25cents at 50nl?

this would mean that any range you 3bet would need to profit at a winrate higher than 50bb/100 I would think for it to be profitable
1 Yes but guy raise 3bb u 3b to 100 total bbs in pot uncalled is 3+3+0.5+1=7.5bbs x 5% = 0.375bbs

2 It would be the rake % based on what game you play

3 too deep

Last edited by vicyafos; 05-14-2020 at 12:27 AM.
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