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04-19-2020 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
there's guys doing 16 hour days usually. expect to at least 6 table for ~16 hours a day to have a shot at first. You can play up to 12 now though, not sure if some sickos are 12 tabling ~16 hours. wouldn't surprise me
If you get money from the rake race, you are nearly not getting any points for the fish buffet anymore. Just forget GG - biggest rake trap ever!
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04-19-2020 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
there's guys doing 16 hour days usually. expect to at least 6 table for ~16 hours a day to have a shot at first. You can play up to 12 now though, not sure if some sickos are 12 tabling ~16 hours. wouldn't surprise me
You talkin about 6 normal tables or 6 of the zoom equivalents?

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Originally Posted by wacker1913
If you get money from the rake race, you are nearly not getting any points for the fish buffet anymore. Just forget GG - biggest rake trap ever!
What does this mean? Can you not get the 50% rakeback and also place top 3 in rake races? Why?
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04-19-2020 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
You talkin about 6 normal tables or 6 of the zoom equivalents?



What does this mean? Can you not get the 50% rakeback and also place top 3 in rake races? Why?
You will nearly earn no points for the fish buffet anymore.
Just play some weeks and calculate your rake afterwards - biggest rake of all sited I ever played (and not even close).
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04-20-2020 , 05:26 AM
lol ppl still believe 50% fish buffet RB + affiliate (30%) + LB money so close 100% and **** like that!
if u add these three amount and u are winning player (5bb/100 or better) you can get 1-10% RB like on stars the only difference is PS takes away way less rake
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04-20-2020 , 06:54 AM
yeah u guys are not makin any ****in sense now

You say yeah 100% rake back

but oh it's not 100% rake back it's 1% to 10%

da fuq? your water laced with poison?
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04-20-2020 , 05:00 PM
What is the situation with HUDs on GG Poker? Ive read that its forbidden to even have PokerTracker or HoldemManager open with GG poker client. Even though its obvious probably 10-30% of the player base are grinding multiple sites and very likely use HUD on other sites. So its not very much enforced, but apparently some people get warning or even bans for playing for example GGpoker+Pokerstars and having hud on Pokerstars? Can I seriously be banned and have my money taken, because I use hud on DIFFERENT site?
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04-21-2020 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfenzik
What is the situation with HUDs on GG Poker? Ive read that its forbidden to even have PokerTracker or HoldemManager open with GG poker client. Even though its obvious probably 10-30% of the player base are grinding multiple sites and very likely use HUD on other sites. So its not very much enforced, but apparently some people get warning or even bans for playing for example GGpoker+Pokerstars and having hud on Pokerstars? Can I seriously be banned and have my money taken, because I use hud on DIFFERENT site?
https://natural8.com/security-ecology-agreement
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04-21-2020 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by aprFool
lol ppl still believe 50% fish buffet RB + affiliate (30%) + LB money so close 100% and **** like that!
if u add these three amount and u are winning player (5bb/100 or better) you can get 1-10% RB like on stars the only difference is PS takes away way less rake
what do people think the actual rakeback figure is?

with a 30% affilate deal of the remaining rake + the fish buffet?

Would it be close to like 30% overall?

The rake is so high at PLO but yet so many tables are running... and the fish buffet spins are def rigged
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04-21-2020 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninja1989
what do people think the actual rakeback figure is?

with a 30% affilate deal of the remaining rake + the fish buffet?

Would it be close to like 30% overall?

The rake is so high at PLO but yet so many tables are running... and the fish buffet spins are def rigged
I had an affiate with 25%, got money from rake race and fish buffet - my rakeback on 100000 hands was under 10%
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04-22-2020 , 03:29 AM
Hey guys,

just logged on to my GG account for the first time in about two years. I was wondering if I'm also able to get a Natural8 account using the same e-mail address or is it pointless since its the same deals etc anyways? Not even sure what kind of RB deal I used when I signed up, most likely none or a bad one. Thanks!
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04-22-2020 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HurricaneNick
Hey guys,

just logged on to my GG account for the first time in about two years. I was wondering if I'm also able to get a Natural8 account using the same e-mail address or is it pointless since its the same deals etc anyways? Not even sure what kind of RB deal I used when I signed up, most likely none or a bad one. Thanks!
yepp you can use the same email (i did it too). about RB deals: there is no good one the affiliate and the fishbuffet are also uses PVI rakeback so if you are decent winner u can get a tiny RB. but ofc registering under an affiliate is still better than not
GL in that high rake environment!!!
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04-22-2020 , 09:38 AM
Odd question

If I have two accounts on the GG network, say on natural 8 and another skin.

Am I allowed to play the two accounts on the same day but NOT at the same time. Only ever being logged into one of the accounts at a time.

For instance, I'm playing cash games and leave with a big stack, sit out, log out.
Then sign into my second account and buy in for my normal amount again.

Never multi accounting.

Not sure what the industry term is for this act.

Thanks
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04-22-2020 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TeachMeHU
Not sure what the industry term is for this act.
ratholing
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04-22-2020 , 02:31 PM
Hi

I have just joined GG Poker.

Seems pretty decent on there. However, a couple of things were bugging me and wondered if anyone could provide any assistance if possible:

1) You muck pre flop from small blind and BB and UTG + 2 play a hand then at the end of the hand small blind can show his hand (from the muck). I have never seen this before. I mean I only play Stars and live but never seen it ever. Is this normal?
2) They have no chat bar?
3) You cannot search for players/tournies etc?

It would be great if anyone could help me at all with any of these points

Many thanks
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04-22-2020 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aprFool
lol ppl still believe 50% fish buffet RB + affiliate (30%) + LB money so close 100% and **** like that!
if u add these three amount and u are winning player (5bb/100 or better) you can get 1-10% RB like on stars the only difference is PS takes away way less rake
The rake on rush&cash is rather low on GG too now.
On regular tables there is also jackpot which can be viewed as rakeback, I tend to hit the quads jackpot multiple times a week if I grind 6 hrs/day. You get about 1 BI for each quads jackpot in NLHE. It is probably still a marginal amount of rakeback. Tables are soft though, and that is what matters most.
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04-22-2020 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ical
Some progress, should have it ready for next week
Hey ical, that looks great! I was messing around with custom statistics in PT4 and got something that somewhat resembled my rake paid, however getting that number to filter through the rest of the calculations will be a huge PITA.

It would be great to have a tool that just did a quick EV / winnings / rake paid graph. I was also thinking of maybe taking the approach to just convert the hand histories to add rake before import into PT4. Does not appear to be tools currently available. Any thoughts on that approach?
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04-23-2020 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ERW_gorgeous
The rake on rush&cash is rather low on GG too now.
On regular tables there is also jackpot which can be viewed as rakeback, I tend to hit the quads jackpot multiple times a week if I grind 6 hrs/day. You get about 1 BI for each quads jackpot in NLHE. It is probably still a marginal amount of rakeback. Tables are soft though, and that is what matters most.
R&C rake: depends what stake u mean, on micro it is nice 4 sure (that's why i tried it). on nl200 the cap is very high.

i am not against others playing on GG. i am against being screwed over, when saying i get 10% RB when can't reach a spin and instead i got 1.9% RB and my 30% PVI RB means 5% real RB by an affil.

if you spin the FB wheel and get a value of ex. 40% RB you can compare to the real rake and you will realise it is way less than 40% (ofc to be able to do this you have to calculate your rake after every session and write it down)

i am not here to argue ppl or try to stop them playing on this site. i just shared my case (if u r winning u can't get valuable RB).

tbh i wouldn't mind if all reg take their action to GG and party, that would be the best case scenario to me
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04-23-2020 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HurricaneNick
Hey guys,

just logged on to my GG account for the first time in about two years. I was wondering if I'm also able to get a Natural8 account using the same e-mail address or is it pointless since its the same deals etc anyways? Not even sure what kind of RB deal I used when I signed up, most likely none or a bad one. Thanks!
Yes possible, deals are worlds apart, each operator runs separately.

T&C states its allowed for 1 real person to have 1 account on each operator.
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04-23-2020 , 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TeachMeHU
Odd question

If I have two accounts on the GG network, say on natural 8 and another skin.

Am I allowed to play the two accounts on the same day but NOT at the same time. Only ever being logged into one of the accounts at a time.

For instance, I'm playing cash games and leave with a big stack, sit out, log out.
Then sign into my second account and buy in for my normal amount again.

Never multi accounting.

Not sure what the industry term is for this act.

Thanks
https://www.natural8.com/security-ecology-agreement

Not allowed I would assume
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04-23-2020 , 11:35 AM
hi guys, is it possible to import HH's from GGpoker to Hand2note? It is not working for me but maybe there is some convertor or tool I'm not aware off.
Btw the import is not working even to poker tracker but still I would prefer to use Hand2note to analyse my game. (I dont have HM)
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04-23-2020 , 02:01 PM
I have questions about affiliates.I have been playing on another skin basically without extra rakeback deal.Now I'm thinking start to play on main site with a better affiliate deal.I have an old account on main site but never deposited.

Is it still possible for me to make a affiliate deal?Do they have access to my funds for deposit and cashouts?Do I need to go through affiliates for deposits and cashouts?
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04-24-2020 , 06:47 AM
Hello guys,

I know, I know, you read that title and immeditially think this is ******ed, but hear me out.

There is this one guy on GG poker that plays PLO25 non stop and is up every single day like 500-1000$ based on the stacks he sits on the table (on every table he is sitting with 500-1000 BB). This guy plays horrible based on GTO prospective. Usually he got like 30% vpip and wins >90% of his hands...

Based on the VPIP you could assume that he is quite standard prepflop, but when he got his super feeling he is shoving in 2345 offsuit 200 BB deep. Or 4 bets with T555 offsuit. Needless to say, that he wins EVERY SINGLE ONE of those.

Postflop he calls you with complete air when he sees the chance of bluffing you off. He plays PERFECT against your hand. every. single. time.

The hands make absolutely no sense to play like that, but it's the absolut best line when you know your opponents hand.
He will valuetown you with 2nd pair, when he is ahead and he will check down the 2nd nuts when he is beat on the same board structure and action. every. single. time.

And no, this is not a normal upswing. His plays are completly ******ed (I have to say it that way), but he is right EVERY SINGLE TIME. Further he is 6 tabling non stop on that low stakes and is printing money like crazy (as far as I can say) for several weeks now. I am not joining any tables where he sits, because it's every time the way i describe above.

Do you guys have any similar experience on GG? Or is it just me being super paranoid and this guy is running hotter than the sun for weeks now?

Edit: note that this is not only against me (like I said I am not playing on tables where he is playing) - he does this with every opponents (at least from my view).


Regards
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04-24-2020 , 07:04 AM
Must have missed the screenname.

Last edited by ratslla; 04-24-2020 at 07:05 AM. Reason: or is it ''one''........
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04-24-2020 , 07:18 AM
i did not post it in purpose... i guess every single reg on plo25 will know who i mean and i dont want to start a witchhunt. i just wanted to know if there is someone with a similar experience.

and btw i think all this "online poker is rigged" nonsense is complete trash and i play now for ~15 years online poker. there have never been a problem, but this guys just does not seem legit at all.... and winning every single day like 1k on plo25 for weeks is quite impossible (especially when you play that bad), even when you got a ridicilous crazy upswing.

i would love to see his pokercraft ev graph tho.
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04-24-2020 , 08:47 AM
i was again on the same table and i swear to god it took like 5 min and he is at 5 stacks again with completly hilarious plays (not against me!).
i have to leave this table again. i am absolutly convinced that something is going on here. it's just impossible that such a rec runs that hot. this guy wins every pot he is in.
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