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03-10-2020 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CheckCheckFold
anyone know how i can import hands into PokerTracker4? I dont want to run PT4 while playing for fear of getting banned by GGPoker.

I just want to import hands after I play to keep track of stats/winnings/lossess.

Like where do I go to export the Hand Histories from GGPoker?
download the hand history file from pokercraft , open PT4 , under "Play Poker" tab click on "Get Hands from Disk"
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03-10-2020 , 02:11 PM
I ended up paying about 131$ CAN for a cashout of $2000US, between GG and Muchbetter exchange rate from US to Eur to CAN.

Muchbetter is suppose to change my currency from EUR to Can, so it should be better next time. But that was disappointing...
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03-10-2020 , 09:01 PM
Some fun / stupid drama for you guys:
I emailed GGPoker cashier/support regarding being short ~$240 and here are the emails.

Initial Email:
Hi,

I only received 0.52616763 BTC for my $4390.00 withdrawal below. This is an unacceptable loss of approximately $240.
At time of withdrawal, GGPoker says that I would receive .55 BTC. At the current price of BTC of less than $8000, I should receive .56 BTC. So at least I should be receiving .55BTC. There is a mistake in your calculation.

Please review and refund the difference of $240 to my GGPoker account.

Thank you,

GGPoker Response:
Dear username,

Thank you for your patience and inquiry.
Please be informed that the applied BTC rates are reflected during before finalizing the withdrawal transaction.
Thus, the transaction is aligned to the date of transaction and the confirmed applied amount on when the transaction has been secured.
Please don't hesitate to contact us for assistance.
Wishing you a nice day.

Regards,

My response to their idiotic lazy non-response:

You did not explain why I was short approximately $240.

What was the BTC to USD at the time of transaction that cause it to be $240 less? How is this possible?

Please escalate to your manager or I will have to report to your gamimg licensing commission.

Sincerely,
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03-10-2020 , 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheckCheckFold
Some fun / stupid drama for you guys:
I emailed GGPoker cashier/support regarding being short ~$240 and here are the emails.

Initial Email:
Hi,

I only received 0.52616763 BTC for my $4390.00 withdrawal below. This is an unacceptable loss of approximately $240.
At time of withdrawal, GGPoker says that I would receive .55 BTC. At the current price of BTC of less than $8000, I should receive .56 BTC. So at least I should be receiving .55BTC. There is a mistake in your calculation.

Please review and refund the difference of $240 to my GGPoker account.

Thank you,

GGPoker Response:
Dear username,

Thank you for your patience and inquiry.
Please be informed that the applied BTC rates are reflected during before finalizing the withdrawal transaction.
Thus, the transaction is aligned to the date of transaction and the confirmed applied amount on when the transaction has been secured.
Please don't hesitate to contact us for assistance.
Wishing you a nice day.

Regards,

My response to their idiotic lazy non-response:

You did not explain why I was short approximately $240.

What was the BTC to USD at the time of transaction that cause it to be $240 less? How is this possible?

Please escalate to your manager or I will have to report to your gamimg licensing commission.

Sincerely,
It should be timestamped. It's a pain in the ass, but you can research the range at that moment. It doesn't seem relevant though. Someone requests a withdrawal of $1,000, I move the money from player account to agent account and then process $1,000 worth of bitcoin to their wallet. It literally takes less than 60 seconds.

It sounds like they are taking a piece for themselves and I don't know if you have any way of fighting that. I'd bet the T&C has some sort of verbiage protecting them on this matter.
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03-11-2020 , 11:52 AM
Being kicked from all tables at least once per session last 1-2 months. My connection is very good. Anyone else?
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03-11-2020 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gaan64
Being kicked from all tables at least once per session last 1-2 months. My connection is very good. Anyone else?


Same here. They should focus on stability instead of new features like river card slowroll
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03-11-2020 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by almony
Same here. They should focus on stability instead of new features like river card slowroll
+1, happens to me frequently at cash game, I get kicked from the tables and if there are people in the waiting list I can't even return to my seat
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03-11-2020 , 03:10 PM
1. For the staking system, is there a way to know what tournaments a player is specifically registered for? Or when you playing and you want to know what other tables that player is playing/registered similar to stars find a place?



2. If a player sells 80% action at 1.25 markup and gets sold out... does this mean this player is basically playing risk free and getting 20% of the total profits? Or does it mean if they bust, they actually profit 5%? If a player sells 75% action at 1.25 markup, this player is essentially playing risk free and playing for $25% of profit?




3. Someone mentioned natural8 takes btc, neteller and skrill. Are accounts in USD or euro or you can choose?




4. No software like partycaption is allowed right? Then how do people move tables etc? They have to do it manually? I know there is no hud allowed but it has a built in hud. The hud i see when watching table is just the vpip right? They dont show the pfr or aggression factor stat right?



5. You can set up hotkeys right? Example letter would be setting the bet size to say 50%? Then say button r would be to bet the amount? Similar to like how stars has it with hotkeys? You can preset preflop and postflop bet sizes like on stars/party right? Example you can put 2x, 2.2x, 2.5x for preflop for bet sizing options and postflop... you can put say 33%, 50%, 67% 100% etc? And you can set a hotkey like the letter b for 75% since you can only put a few bet sizes?
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03-12-2020 , 04:37 AM
^ I hope someone answers all 18 of your questions.
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03-12-2020 , 09:39 AM
I am playing a lot of rush&cash hands.
I am somewhere around place 20 in the rake race, but now I do nearly not get fish points anymore.
Is this because I will get money from rake race, so the rake back fish menu is going totally down?
By the way - I always hit the lowest price the last 3 times I used the wheel - nice thing this rakeback at ggpoker....
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03-13-2020 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by blizzy
^ I hope someone answers all 18 of your questions.
challenge accepted
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03-13-2020 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wacker1913
I am playing a lot of rush&cash hands.
I am somewhere around place 20 in the rake race, but now I do nearly not get fish points anymore.
Is this because I will get money from rake race, so the rake back fish menu is going totally down?
By the way - I always hit the lowest price the last 3 times I used the wheel - nice thing this rakeback at ggpoker....
Its because fish points is affected by PVI, your PVI must be less than 1 (aggro solid winning player) https://natural8.com/features/fish-buffet

Money you get from rake race has nothing to do with fish points accum

But you still prefer some cashback over no cashback
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03-13-2020 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
1. For the staking system, is there a way to know what tournaments a player is specifically registered for? Or when you playing and you want to know what other tables that player is playing/registered similar to stars find a place?



2. If a player sells 80% action at 1.25 markup and gets sold out... does this mean this player is basically playing risk free and getting 20% of the total profits? Or does it mean if they bust, they actually profit 5%? If a player sells 75% action at 1.25 markup, this player is essentially playing risk free and playing for $25% of profit?




3. Someone mentioned natural8 takes btc, neteller and skrill. Are accounts in USD or euro or you can choose?




4. No software like partycaption is allowed right? Then how do people move tables etc? They have to do it manually? I know there is no hud allowed but it has a built in hud. The hud i see when watching table is just the vpip right? They dont show the pfr or aggression factor stat right?



5. You can set up hotkeys right? Example letter would be setting the bet size to say 50%? Then say button r would be to bet the amount? Similar to like how stars has it with hotkeys? You can preset preflop and postflop bet sizes like on stars/party right? Example you can put 2x, 2.2x, 2.5x for preflop for bet sizing options and postflop... you can put say 33%, 50%, 67% 100% etc? And you can set a hotkey like the letter b for 75% since you can only put a few bet sizes?
Manually check each and every MTT lobby, can try PM the player on his social

Say $150 N8GG Masters event
Truteller sells 80% at 1.25
He buys in with his wallet balance
You buy all 80%, so he will get back $150 in his wallet (essentially free rolling)
He wins and cashes for $44K, he will have $8.8K in his wallet and you will have $35,200

Natural8 takes nearly all the PSPs, u can send in euros or USD but your Ecopayz or Skrill or Neteller or MuchBetter will do the conversion in house

No external assistance softwares are allowed, period. Press the tile button or manually move tables

Bet sizing is customizable, but cant tie in which buttons to do what
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03-13-2020 , 06:30 AM
Anyone know how does one get elite points?

https://www.natural8.com/promotions/8-888-elite-chase
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03-13-2020 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckCheckFold
Anyone know how does one get elite points?

https://www.natural8.com/promotions/8-888-elite-chase
Sign up directly unaffiliated then youll auto be enrolled
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03-13-2020 , 07:04 AM
If i have an account on GG, got banned (nothing shady, they are just dumb), can I open an account with another skin and not risk getting shut down/funds confiscated. WHich is the most trustworthy skin (are any?)? I am in the UK btw.
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03-13-2020 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
If i have an account on GG, got banned (nothing shady, they are just dumb), can I open an account with another skin and not risk getting shut down/funds confiscated. WHich is the most trustworthy skin (are any?)? I am in the UK btw.
Afraid not, your time with GGNetwork is over

Return and you risk losing all monies deposited/won
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03-13-2020 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Syracuse Baller
+1, happens to me frequently at cash game, I get kicked from the tables and if there are people in the waiting list I can't even return to my seat
Same for me on windows -> the whole software crashes and I have to restart it. Is that what you mean ?
On MacOs the game freezes and sometimes it unfreezes sometimes I have to kill the soft and restart it.

Last edited by eLPe; 03-13-2020 at 09:43 AM.
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03-13-2020 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by vicyafos
Afraid not, your time with GGNetwork is over

Return and you risk losing all monies deposited/won
Why arent they just skins? If i sign up with another skin how would GG network itself know this?
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03-13-2020 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
Why arent they just skins? If i sign up with another skin how would GG network itself know this?
security is centralized, they would know as they have nearly as good as a team and tools as stars to combat all manners of security issue
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03-13-2020 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dappadan777
Why arent they just skins? If i sign up with another skin how would GG network itself know this?
dude , its like a basic check to see if any of your details match existing users, every skin is on gg network they have the info for all users. ... as well as your computer IP address and such. unless you provide complete fake info , use some vpn to change your IP address ... even then they will catch you as vpns are a red flag already ... would probably just take some more time.
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03-14-2020 , 01:49 PM
Is it possible to download HHs to PT4?

GG doesn't show up in the list of supported sites/networks. I'm not sure how to import them.
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03-14-2020 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinque Mtume
Is it possible to download HHs to PT4?

GG doesn't show up in the list of supported sites/networks. I'm not sure how to import them.
click "play poker" , click "get hands from disk"
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03-15-2020 , 01:52 AM
How does someone sell their stake? From the screenshots I've seen, I don't see a button or way to do this. It's not really clear how thia is done. I have a player asking and I don't have any real answers.
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03-15-2020 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kimikaze88
You don't need solid proof to do all this kind of allegations.
No, as long as you post your anecdotes and speculations in this thread:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...dition-255990/

Then you're right, no proof needed.

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Originally Posted by kimikaze88
You don't need rocket science to proof all this.
Awesome. In that case, you should get your proof together, and start a new thread, because proof that a site is rigged needs to be exposed widely.

Cliffs: If you want to speculate, do so in the rigged thread I linked above. If you have substantial proof, start a new thread. No need for any further rigged posts in this thread.

Edit to add: Since no one could help themselves, moved the whole derail over there.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 03-15-2020 at 10:56 PM. Reason: Addition.
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