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03-19-2024 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ferruhgev
I hate GG Poker. Because the community cards are being dealt in a way that violates statistics. For instance, a player hitting a Gutshot on the flop has around a 16% chance of making a straight (until the river). However, on GG, this probability is close to 50%. Short stack and fish players are winning way too many hands. When I used to play on PokerStars, I had a higher BB/100 value. I'm playing on GG now because access to other platforms is not allowed in my country. If I find an alternative place, I will leave GG immediately.
Is there a reason why you don't play like a shorstacked fish and print untill you can play other sites? Makes no sense when you know the solution for winning. That is just stupid people things.
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03-20-2024 , 04:06 AM
Are there any agents for GGpokerUK, looking for a deal there? turns out ggpoker and Betkings are unavailable to UK players and one of those was where I was about to sign up.
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03-20-2024 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by reddev
Are there any agents for GGpokerUK, looking for a deal there? turns out ggpoker and Betkings are unavailable to UK players and one of those was where I was about to sign up.
Seems like I am actually looking for an affiliate deal as want to be using a normal account.
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03-20-2024 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by reddev
Are there any agents for GGpokerUK, looking for a deal there? turns out ggpoker and Betkings are unavailable to UK players and one of those was where I was about to sign up.

GGpoker is only available through the UK version
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03-26-2024 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ImePaskaa
Like I said on the website it states : up to 50% not flat 50%. And in the tos there is something about pvi and sheet for the strd buffet. So they don't actually lie it's just pretty shady way to promote it. Kind of having huge sales on black friday.

was planning on trying to run this promo, but im getting way less than 50% and seems tough to win with rake, will stick to my normal game stars
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03-27-2024 , 07:55 AM
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03-27-2024 , 09:06 AM
This is another nice scam by riGGed poker

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03-27-2024 , 09:45 AM
^ and how so? They give away free cash as far as im aware.
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03-27-2024 , 10:19 AM
they write that they give 50k per day, but never actually give 50k it is the reason why they write "up to" so they can give 10k per day and they will be in safe position that they dont lie same as with fish buffet.

I played 15k hands and got 10bb back
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03-27-2024 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 10najkrajsi
they write that they give 50k per day, but never actually give 50k it is the reason why they write "up to" so they can give 10k per day and they will be in safe position that they dont lie same as with fish buffet.

I played 15k hands and got 10bb back
I will never understand people like you. It states on the promotion it's not 50k it is up to 50k daily and somehow you manage to turn this in your little head : THIS IS A SCAM. Sometimes I feel people use products they hate so they can complain it to others. Makes no sense.
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03-27-2024 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ImePaskaa
I will never understand people like you. It states on the promotion it's not 50k it is up to 50k daily and somehow you manage to turn this in your little head : THIS IS A SCAM. Sometimes I feel people use products they hate so they can complain it to others. Makes no sense.

The big title at the top says 50k, not up to 50k. Seems unfair at least yes. If they wanted they could give 10$ per day this way. Would that be fair after advertising it with a big 50000$ sign?
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03-27-2024 , 09:44 PM
Looks like people got so comfortable with the generous rakeback offers at other major operators like Pokerstars over the last couple of years, that GGpoker offering LB+GGcare+random promotional money on top of an already decent RB system can't really please them in comparison.

(In case you are wondering, yes I am being sarcastic).
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03-28-2024 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FunnyBunny.H
(In case you are wondering, yes I am being sarcastic).
I knew it as soon as i read this:
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GGpoker offering... decent RB system
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03-28-2024 , 07:03 AM
I didn't say great/perfect for a reason.

People seem to forget, Pokerstars used to actually offer 1-2% RB for well over a year for winning players (beside all the other scummy things they did in the last decade) just because they had an absolute monopoly on the market, and they were juicing it to the absolute maximum. It's one of the biggest reason why their site is dying recent years, the constant mistreatment of their own players in favour of short-term profit.

Yes GGpoker has PVI, and even with PVI in place, the rakeback is decent. It's unfortunate that it's not transparent how it's calculated, but they still offer reasonable amount with it. And that is not taking Leaderboards and GGcare/other promotions into count, which in total is more than comparable with a site such as Stars. (Reminder Stars only recently adjusted their RB system because of how hard they are bleeding traffic, and even with their latest attempt, it's not great by any means - it actually cut RB for a lot of low-stakes players).

The main difference is, instead of pushing stacks in the nitty reg-fest games of Stars (if games are even running), you actually have great action on GG.
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03-28-2024 , 02:23 PM
Anyone ever find that their balance on GGpoker doesnt quite seem to go up compared to your session stats? Pokercraft has me up 28 big blinds for this session but GGPoker paid me 3 big blinds. Rake cant be the difference given I was only paid 2bb rakeback @50%. I noticed it looking a bit odd the other day and thought perhaps a buyin was still to be released back to my funds as it does in pokerstars.
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03-28-2024 , 03:01 PM
You pay rake as high as 12-22BB per 100 hand, 6max games can be 12-15BB and 9max 15-22BB depends how you play and how often you 3bet etc so we can all agree that rake is absurdly high

Cashback can be 20-25% with PVI

From leaderboards and all bonuses combined you can get up to 10BB per 100 hand

There are many recreational players around so games can be very profitable

To sum up: you pay average 15BB per 100 hand rake, you get 10BB back from bonuses and + cashback 23% + possibility to play with recreational players

Worth it? in my opinion yes but...

I have some doubts, conspiration theories... i faced so much bad luck i believe that online poker can be rigged, imagine you run #1 poker site where 500k+ players are playing, it would be perfect for that site if winners win less and losers lose less so everyone would be playing without going busto fast, i believe it can be programmed in the code somehow, so site rakes them to the death but to get rich would be exceptionally hard, you will run around cycles like a mouse thats what i felt playing on GG for months
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03-28-2024 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by blazar
You pay rake as high as 12-22BB per 100 hand, 6max games can be 12-15BB and 9max 15-22BB depends how you play and how often you 3bet etc so we can all agree that rake is absurdly high

Cashback can be 20-25% with PVI

From leaderboards and all bonuses combined you can get up to 10BB per 100 hand

There are many recreational players around so games can be very profitable

To sum up: you pay average 15BB per 100 hand rake, you get 10BB back from bonuses and + cashback 23% + possibility to play with recreational players

Worth it? in my opinion yes but...
You were so close to having a great and informative post, only to do a 180 at the end, and start rambling about how online might be rigged. Still good effort though!
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03-29-2024 , 04:53 AM
still down? getting errordenied

same for others?
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03-30-2024 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FunnyBunny.H
You were so close to having a great and informative post, only to do a 180 at the end, and start rambling about how online might be rigged. Still good effort though!
And:
"you actually have great action on GG."

I agree with both!
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04-01-2024 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FunnyBunny.H
I didn't say great/perfect for a reason.

People seem to forget, Pokerstars used to actually offer 1-2% RB for well over a year for winning players (beside all the other scummy things they did in the last decade) just because they had an absolute monopoly on the market, and they were juicing it to the absolute maximum. It's one of the biggest reason why their site is dying recent years, the constant mistreatment of their own players in favour of short-term profit.

Yes GGpoker has PVI, and even with PVI in place, the rakeback is decent. It's unfortunate that it's not transparent how it's calculated, but they still offer reasonable amount with it. And that is not taking Leaderboards and GGcare/other promotions into count, which in total is more than comparable with a site such as Stars. (Reminder Stars only recently adjusted their RB system because of how hard they are bleeding traffic, and even with their latest attempt, it's not great by any means - it actually cut RB for a lot of low-stakes players).

The main difference is, instead of pushing stacks in the nitty reg-fest games of Stars (if games are even running), you actually have great action on GG.
Speaking off, I won a huge pot with a straight today, even got that dancing Negreanu, but never received a single ggcheers chip for that. I feel a bit cheated by their algorithm.

I agree that their rakeback system is much better than anything else in the market right now though. Their bad beat jackpot is particularly juicy IMO. Yet, if PS were willing to bring back supernova, I wouldn't hesitate in moving back to their site.
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04-01-2024 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blazar
You pay rake as high as 12-22BB per 100 hand, 6max games can be 12-15BB and 9max 15-22BB depends how you play and how often you 3bet etc so we can all agree that rake is absurdly high

Cashback can be 20-25% with PVI

From leaderboards and all bonuses combined you can get up to 10BB per 100 hand

There are many recreational players around so games can be very profitable

To sum up: you pay average 15BB per 100 hand rake, you get 10BB back from bonuses and + cashback 23% + possibility to play with recreational players

Worth it? in my opinion yes but...

I have some doubts, conspiration theories... i faced so much bad luck i believe that online poker can be rigged, imagine you run #1 poker site where 500k+ players are playing, it would be perfect for that site if winners win less and losers lose less so everyone would be playing without going busto fast, i believe it can be programmed in the code somehow, so site rakes them to the death but to get rich would be exceptionally hard, you will run around cycles like a mouse thats what i felt playing on GG for months
Wow their rake is that high? I wouldn't play on it.
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04-01-2024 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
Wow their rake is that high? I wouldn't play on it.
Yeah, GG rakes preflop 3bets and also takes additional rake for badbeat jackpot share, so it adds up and in the end you get this high rake
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04-02-2024 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by blazar
Yeah, GG rakes preflop 3bets and also takes additional rake for badbeat jackpot share, so it adds up and in the end you get this high rake
Yeah and I would also add when talking about rake on GG that the calculations for rake paid in bb/100 on primedope are way too low. From my sample, I pay easily 15-20% more rake in bb/100 than primedope shows. And by the way, I don't cold call outside of the BB most of the time, so it's not like I play a strategy that just pays more rake due to the preflop strat.

It can get really high and tough to beat especially if you have terrible luck for the bad beat jackpots. If you run good and get the collateral share of the BBJ reasonably often, your rakeback can be really high. Otherwise, it has a very negative impact on your overall winrate/hourly. Leaderboards are another important thing here when talking about rakeback and your bottom line.
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04-02-2024 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MDAcoaching
Yeah and I would also add when talking about rake on GG that the calculations for rake paid in bb/100 on primedope are way too low. From my sample, I pay easily 15-20% more rake in bb/100 than primedope shows. And by the way, I don't cold call outside of the BB most of the time, so it's not like I play a strategy that just pays more rake due to the preflop strat.

It can get really high and tough to beat especially if you have terrible luck for the bad beat jackpots. If you run good and get the collateral share of the BBJ reasonably often, your rakeback can be really high. Otherwise, it has a very negative impact on your overall winrate/hourly. Leaderboards are another important thing here when talking about rakeback and your bottom line.
i think it is because on primedope it shows without BBJ fee
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04-03-2024 , 01:01 AM
Has anyone experienced any delays withdrawing from GG recently? I am in the UK and withdrawing to Visa.
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