Thinking that way....how old are you?

GG changing flags to other countries and allow people to play. This is not good at all.

Just look at "limitless", he is Croatian, ha? And it bothers me, because he plays for that amount of money...just WTF.

I dont like GG poker. Deposti once, jsut to see what is going on, and "thanks, but no thanks".

Does anyone know the inactivity time on Rush and cash tables?

I.e how long you are allowed to sit out before your tables get closed and you lose your stacks?

Thanks

i dont like the site either, i feel is rigged in some ways at smaller stakes to keep economy and games going. but maybe stars will wake up this way and do some promos or something

Not sure those tables close. I have a 9 month old and have been away from the tables for 20 minutes and still come back to my stack.

I think GG has an idle counter that logs out your session. Might be whatever that is.

Dont know exactly but its def over 30mins, I have came back after dinner numerous times and stacks still there.

I googled cost of insurance on GG and came to this thread were it was proven its 0ev and basically no 0.05bb cost, that was 3 years ago.

Does anyone know if this is right and still the same?

Grinding 10 hours a day for 2 weeks to make sure I get my wheel spin with 4 more weeks to go.

My PVI has now changed so drastically I have no chance of getting my rake back.
I love everything GG is going for the most part but this is bullshit.

I'm in UK. They are quite strict with regulations.

Poker sites wouldn't offer insurance if it was going to statistically make you money in the long run. Its just something that makes people feel better when they get sucked out on.

Generally I only buy it for the 2, 3 or 4 outer hands if I get a "feeling" and I don't get that feeling too often. Just another interesting feature on GG.

Someone posted on another forum the same thing I was wondering and I did some digging on GGPoker rake scheming. (Hopefully double posting is not strictly prohibited. This is kinda important knowledge, IMO.)

A brilliant question, and my thoughts exactly.

1) I just made a 100€ deposit
2) I played 7000+ hands 1$ AOF
3) Made 60$+ profit according to PokerCraft EV Graph
4) Should have paid a little over 50$ in combined fees
5) Profit?
6) Nah, my balance after these hands is 91€ and some cents. (With no other games played, other than 10 free spins on casino with less than 2€ profit and few $ in AOFBingo wins)

PokerCraft EV winning graph should have no reason to report the wrong actual winning amount in a game that does not even require any in-game rake calculations. (All-in EV can be wrong due to the multiway calcs, but that's irrelevant)

The whole thing would make sense if they maleficently round the 0,007$ rake to the nearest dollar cent. Not a good look (or how they say nowadays )

Edit: Is your account in some other currency than the game? Mine is, so this might be a huge issue as well? The cashier mechanics make hundreds of exchanges when playing this game. Could GG bank some money here?

Edit 2: Even the balance history says that every folded non-big blind game takes away 0.01€ (should be 0,006€), folded sb takes away 0.05€ (should be 0,047€) and folded BB 0.09€! (should be 0.088€!). It seems that you are compensated in winning pots.

So play super loose and don't lose pots! Hmmm, who would this calculation way benefit in millions in the long run? Not a good look!

Edit 3: Call Joe Ingram!

I did the above calcs in 2$ AOF and it's getting worse. (At least for me)

I'm getting constantly charged 0.02-0.03€/pot (instead of a steady 0.02$ (0.01$ rake and 0.01$ jackpot) hinted in GGPoker info). Plus I can't find any spots that would alleviate the overcharging. (Maybe multiway pots, but they are not that frequent that it would make a real difference. They would need to add money in these pots to compensate.)

So when I'm expecting my games to cost me around ~165€/day. They actually cost me ~240€/day.

The change from the old happened early this month straight after clearing a big bonus from the fish buffet.

After finding this sh*t out, no wonder this month has sucked. Definitely not a good look for GGPoker.

Well said

They gonna suck out of you every last penny. For me, they dont exist, loby is like christmass tree, everything blinking, etc :P .

Yeah, JOE, investigate this?

If you don't like the rake structure of a particular game, don't try to change it. Just go play a different one. Plenty of options, and again, the competition is not the toughest on this site

The AOF rake rape story gets even sadder. Not only that they charge much more rake than advertised, but they also implement the PVI in AOF on top of that. For me, I seem to accumulate 40% of the advertised 100 fish points/1$ rake.

So there's extra rake paid (like a lot, 45% more in 2$ AOF) and fewer points (0.4 PVI, so 60% fewer points) towards the fish buffet thing. Not a good look at all!

Hey Peldini, I hope that you're trolling. There is no selecting a different one. It's not about the rake structure. It's about blatant fraud that GGPoker is running. Please read my posts to which the guy you're "bashing" was reacting to.

I'm not mad that I been f*ed over for few thousand, because I noticed the fraud quite quickly. But, overall countless people have been cheated without them ever noticing.

I hope that GGPoker will get prosecuted and sentenced. This rotten player should be removed from existence.

Really nice investigation there. But belive me, people still play it on mass, and that is cherry on cake for GG .


Im waiting for GG black friday...belive me, it is comming..

It has changed since if it has ever been correct. The cost is huge (calculate from the examples on their site) but if it has changed (again). It is not insuring the EV - that's a far better deal and costs only 1% at Stars rather than 10% or whatever it is today at GG to get only your stack back if you lose or whatever (insured twice).

Disconnections every fkn day while multitabling spins which costs me various buyins. day over day. Only today lost about 8 buyin because I lost connection to the server. Strangely my internet connection is still there. I warn against playing there. I guess there is a system to steal money wherever they can. They lure with big leaderboard prices but playing with tricks to get their money back. Fkn scam site!

Trying to figure out what happens to stakes when bubble protection kicks in. Just watched a horse call AI with 1.5 bb (OTB) with trash, right on the money bubble. Seemed like an intentional punt. I'm guessing the horse keeps 100% of the $T?

Ah thanks, I was really surprised when reading the cost for insurance was minimal. Def wont be ever using insurance on GG considering I would never pay the 1% on stars for cash out.

Yes the horse will get the full buy-in back and stakers get $0 (although some players offer the money back as a friendly gesture). I saw something similar at my table in the $31.50 Bounty King Jr today with 280 left and top 278 pay (bubble protection clearly on). "TakiownsAA" had 3.3bb left on the button and "Disqualifier" raised utg to 2.2bb off a 31bb stack. TakiownsAA can clearly fold 1-2 hands into the money but instead jammed his 3.3bb with 45o in a spot where the raiser is never folding. He sold 70% of the buy-in and thus got the full $31.50 reimbursed. Sick for his stakers (two people had 20% and one with 18%, then the remaining 12% spread out). I posted on his staking page about it and of course he deletes the messages and says to ignore the negative trolls. I've staked him before but never again. To be honest, it kinda makes me less inclined to stake anyone at all going forward.

I don't know where else to put this (or who to contact) but here is my wish list for GG Poker (in no particular order):
1) Omaha H/L - cash, tournaments
2) If a player busts, there should be a dead SB or dead button, stop skipping past either one
3) If a new table is created in a tourney, don't do those stupid 2 player tables where they are heads up for 2 hands. Wait for more players to come in. This is dumb and frustrating if you are short stacked.
4) Rush MTTs - Full Tilt had these
5) Automatic staking protection for instances when a player is staked but sits out the entire tournament. I've had it happen a few times and only two players got me back (one sent cash back, another sat out a lot but then massively discounted his markup for a different tournament that I fully staked and he final tabled it). Should be relatively easy if a player's VPIP was 0% for the entire tournament (and staked).

Looks like a new revamped platinum system for rakeback, anyone one know what this means? I was on black whale level not sure if this change is good or bad for me...?

I was diamond shark with 600 000 points. I needed 150 000 more to reach black. Without notice they changed their system and i have to collect 1.5m to reach black. Wtf is this scam? The amounts are very small and i couldnt give less ****s but how this is different behaviour than pokerstars did with elites?