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06-03-2020 , 08:52 AM
"Do you like your poker fast? Do you love action but dislike waiting between hands? How about big rewards? With a focus on excitement, fast cash and reward drops of up to 600% rakeback, Rush & Cash is the answer, where the thrill builds as quickly as the cards are dealt."

I don't know how GG gets away with such statements under UKGC regulations consistently. It's like they have carte blanche to advertise whatever they want.

Calling a cash drop of a few bucks in .10/.25 600 percent RB is out of order.
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06-03-2020 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CheckCheckFold



this looks like an example of collusion.
I suppose that you three guys colluding the rest of the table
Keep up the hard work guys!!!Much love
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06-03-2020 , 11:00 AM
Does buying insurance works only when GG feels like it? I've been trying to get the honeymoon mission done to get an insurance payout but when I run with insurance I never suck out but when I do suck out I can't but insuracne. wtf!?
I've noticed when the villain decides to run once I can't buy insurance. Been trying to get this mission done the whole day playing micro plo rush n cash
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06-03-2020 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
All the Fish Buffet points at the new Rush PLO tables.
what do you mean by this?
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06-03-2020 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Alucard5077
Does buying insurance works only when GG feels like it? I've been trying to get the honeymoon mission done to get an insurance payout but when I run with insurance I never suck out but when I do suck out I can't but insuracne. wtf!?
I've noticed when the villain decides to run once I can't buy insurance. Been trying to get this mission done the whole day playing micro plo rush n cash
what do you mean? buyin insurance and then sucking out?
That's not possible, you can only buy insurance when you get ALLIN ahead and not behind.
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06-03-2020 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by polarop
what do you mean? buyin insurance and then sucking out?
That's not possible, you can only buy insurance when you get ALLIN ahead and not behind.
yea the mission is to get an insurance payout in rush n cash
So I have to gii ahead buy insurance & then suck out to get the insurance payout.
The problem is when I buy insurance I don't seem to suck out so I can't complete it, & sometimes I can't buy insurance as the fav for whatever reasons then I suck out.
I'm not complaining about a bad beat or something. I just want to complete the mission of getting an insurance payout.
What I don't understand is why I can't buy insurance sometimes as the fav on the flop or turn
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06-03-2020 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Alucard5077
yea the mission is to get an insurance payout in rush n cash
So I have to gii ahead buy insurance & then suck out to get the insurance payout.
The problem is when I buy insurance I don't seem to suck out so I can't complete it, & sometimes I can't buy insurance as the fav for whatever reasons then I suck out.
I'm not complaining about a bad beat or something. I just want to complete the mission of getting an insurance payout.
What I don't understand is why I can't buy insurance sometimes as the fav on the flop or turn

I don't think you understand what the word suckout means.
If you are ahead you CANNOT suckout! Only when you are behind.
But you can only buy insurance, when you are AHEAD at the current moment!


Also in PLO you can be favorite when money goes allin, but you still have worse hand because you have a draw or something, then you also cannot buy insurance, because you are technically behind at the moment even if you are favorite
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06-03-2020 , 01:30 PM
Also did you check that the Mission is for PLO Rush & Cash or NLHE Rush & Cash?

Very important to distinguish
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06-03-2020 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by polarop
Also did you check that the Mission is for PLO Rush & Cash or NLHE Rush & Cash?

Very important to distinguish
what I meant was losing the hand while being ahead on flop or turn.
I completed the mission. Was a pain in the ass
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06-03-2020 , 03:35 PM
Is it just me or are you guys unable to change the table and background color? Whenever I try to change it in setting, nothing happends
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06-03-2020 , 05:52 PM
For sure the worst software,and maybe the scammiest site out there.
First of all lobby crash every 30 minutes,that means we loose money from blinds,from the pots that is going on,from the free hands that we have.
Second they just lie about rakeback,and they also dont show us how much exacty is the rake.I m not understanding how a scammy site without excuse they dont show how much they take from our pocket and still has 80.000players and Wsopc operate....PVI is a big scam.It isnt at least 0,5-2.It is like 0,1 for winners.I played 2k hands of plo1k-plo5k and it shows that i did 200$ rake....

PPL wake up.They steal all the money from the pool.At least 80%
I have 15bb winrate in 30k hands and still break even.This is 60k$ for 30k hands direct from recreational pockets at their account
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06-03-2020 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CheckCheckFold
what do you mean by this?
Seemed like my counter was going up insanely fast when I played it?
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06-03-2020 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
Seemed like my counter was going up insanely fast when I played it?
Seems something was adjusted with PVI. I took a break for about 2 weeks playing on a different site.

Last time I checked, I was around 0.3.

Today I played 250 hands of R&C Omaha and my PVI was 0.74
I also played 150 hands of R&C Hold'em and my PVI was 0.91

Don't know if it resets at some point or what.
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06-04-2020 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc Desjardins
Seems something was adjusted with PVI. I took a break for about 2 weeks playing on a different site.

Last time I checked, I was around 0.3.

Today I played 250 hands of R&C Omaha and my PVI was 0.74
I also played 150 hands of R&C Hold'em and my PVI was 0.91

Don't know if it resets at some point or what.
PVI is separated for games, it calibrates after every session
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06-04-2020 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by just_mo
Seemed like my counter was going up insanely fast when I played it?
How do you check your PVI?
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06-04-2020 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 8ROM
Thanks for all the replies.

So I am better off signing up with gg uk site seeing as they have uk licence and the big signup bonus on natural8 seems pointless because of the high rake in normal cash games?

It seems the only games to play on gg are Rush & Cash and mtts then?

Is the rewards program any better than chests on stars? And does Rush not count in this either?
if you r winning player only advantage u have new PVI.stars soft comparison vs gg.do you have 8-10 hours daily grind gg is good but 2-4 hours stars good but some player play 2-3 hours and in daily leaderboard for 1 buy-in prize and repeat all day in month its good side income dont forget u dont get points when fold anymore before u can get.u can get rakeback on R&C but pool so small comparison stars.

u can check leaderboard and setting your goal https://www.promo.ggnetwork-contents...btag1=betkings

u can get extra rakeback with agent account or twitcher code u can search but be careful agent account for fraud.u can check some gg cash game streamers and ask them.

i guess MTTs best thing on gg but if you focus MTT side n8 have exclusives promo for mtt.its all in my opinion btw .
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06-04-2020 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HSInformer
For sure the worst software,and maybe the scammiest site out there.
First of all lobby crash every 30 minutes,that means we loose money from blinds,from the pots that is going on,from the free hands that we have.
Second they just lie about rakeback,and they also dont show us how much exacty is the rake.I m not understanding how a scammy site without excuse they dont show how much they take from our pocket and still has 80.000players and Wsopc operate....PVI is a big scam.It isnt at least 0,5-2.It is like 0,1 for winners.I played 2k hands of plo1k-plo5k and it shows that i did 200$ rake....

PPL wake up.They steal all the money from the pool.At least 80%
I have 15bb winrate in 30k hands and still break even.This is 60k$ for 30k hands direct from recreational pockets at their account

Absolutely! Extremely tilting that they’ve blown up to be so huge. Practically industry leader now, bypassing PS & PP.
The software is unreliable af!

Magically runout cards show up at an unbelievably high frequency.

Shady rakeback. Hard to get a real explanation on what the rakeback is. N8 support guy here just links to rewards fish buffet but you hear all these people getting special deals and 50%+ RB.

Can’t ever get a proper response when asking about RB deals. Yeah, I know about the loyalty fish buffet spin the wheel scammy program.

They spend too much energy on gimmicky uneccessary crap. Instead of squeezing cards, rabbit hunting, goofy emojis, how about a reliable software? I’m sure fun players enjoy not freezing every other hour.

This one just bugs me, not GG fault. At showdown, just flip the cards! Get that feeling of being slowrolled, just copy Stars way. Open up! F the suspense.
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06-04-2020 , 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by theclock
Extremely tilting that they’ve blown up to be so huge. Practically industry leader now, bypassing PS & PP.
Lol no. They are 2nd and yet still nowhere near stars.

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06-04-2020 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sikas
How do you check your PVI?

I take a note of my cash and fish buffet balance before starting my session.

When my session is over, I look at my actual winnings by looking at my new balance vs my start balance.

Then I look at Pokercraft to see how much I won without rake. The difference between actual winning and pokercraft winning is rake.

Then I look at my new fishbuffet balance.

You are suppose to get 1 fishbuffet point for each cent of rake you pay.

so example, starting balance is 100$, starting fish buffet is 0.

I finish my session and balance is now 115$.

I won 15$. I look at pokercraft and it says I won 20$.

It means I paid 5$ of rake.

I look at fishbuffet, it says 300 points.

I should have gotten 500 points with 5$ of rake.

300 divided by 500 is 0.60, so my PVI is 0.60.
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06-04-2020 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Marc Desjardins
I take a note of my cash and fish buffet balance before starting my session.



When my session is over, I look at my actual winnings by looking at my new balance vs my start balance.



Then I look at Pokercraft to see how much I won without rake. The difference between actual winning and pokercraft winning is rake.



Then I look at my new fishbuffet balance.



You are suppose to get 1 fishbuffet point for each cent of rake you pay.



so example, starting balance is 100$, starting fish buffet is 0.



I finish my session and balance is now 115$.



I won 15$. I look at pokercraft and it says I won 20$.



It means I paid 5$ of rake.



I look at fishbuffet, it says 300 points.



I should have gotten 500 points with 5$ of rake.



300 divided by 500 is 0.60, so my PVI is 0.60.
They actually changed how fish points are gained a while back. Its no longer 0.01 cent of rake per point. Its posted a good bit up the thread if you wanna search. They're kinda ambiguous about how they're gained now but it involves a whole range of things.
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06-04-2020 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by theclock
Absolutely! Extremely tilting that they’ve blown up to be so huge. Practically industry leader now, bypassing PS & PP.
The software is unreliable af!

Magically runout cards show up at an unbelievably high frequency.

Shady rakeback. Hard to get a real explanation on what the rakeback is. N8 support guy here just links to rewards fish buffet but you hear all these people getting special deals and 50%+ RB.

Can’t ever get a proper response when asking about RB deals. Yeah, I know about the loyalty fish buffet spin the wheel scammy program.

They spend too much energy on gimmicky uneccessary crap. Instead of squeezing cards, rabbit hunting, goofy emojis, how about a reliable software? I’m sure fun players enjoy not freezing every other hour.

This one just bugs me, not GG fault. At showdown, just flip the cards! Get that feeling of being slowrolled, just copy Stars way. Open up! F the suspense.
My deal has that 50% extra rb which you mention.Still my total rb is about 20%. My PVI im sure that is less from x0,5.So if my rake is 100% x 0,3=30%
30% x 0,5=15% fish buffet rb 15%x0,5=7,5% is the extra rb. Tolal=22,5%
You should get at least the "plus 50% rb deal" but still its scammy.

One more scammy thing is the Big Hand Jackpot.1)Do anyone know if they rake it?They take 1bb from all the pots that we invest 15bb+.If i cant know if they rake it,how i would be sure that is not rigged?
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06-04-2020 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by vicyafos
PVI is separated for games, it calibrates after every session
Well that's interesting and would explain why I'm rolling in the RB points right now especially as I'm stuck so far in the R&C PLO.

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Originally Posted by theclock
This one just bugs me, not GG fault. At showdown, just flip the cards! Get that feeling of being slowrolled, just copy Stars way. Open up! F the suspense.
Pretty sure everyone is tilted by this, just something we have to deal with unfortunately to play on what is, IMO, a pretty decent site, particularly nice setup for MTTs.
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06-04-2020 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tusdar
They actually changed how fish points are gained a while back. Its no longer 0.01 cent of rake per point. Its posted a good bit up the thread if you wanna search. They're kinda ambiguous about how they're gained now but it involves a whole range of things.
Do you have a link to it? I searched on both Natural8 and GGPoker's site and couldn't find anything. Also went up a few pages on the thread and couldn't find it either.

Thanks!
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06-04-2020 , 01:54 PM
According to Patrik Antonius words "GG has the best poker model"

GG simple words model:

Good pros: Loosing by 12bb/100 from GG.Be even or slightly winners(after rake)
Bad pros: Must evaporate by paying 12bb/100 from GG and be loosers on game
Fish: Loosing by 4bb/100 from GG,if they just loosing only 5-6bb/100 on game,or getting even vs GG and loosing 10+bb/100 on game.

Now the 1 million dollar question: Who is the big winner by infinity margin

If this model take the pie i will go to casinos,at least i will earn a free food voucher
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06-04-2020 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc Desjardins
Do you have a link to it? I searched on both Natural8 and GGPoker's site and couldn't find anything. Also went up a few pages on the thread and couldn't find it either.

Thanks!
PVI rake $0.01 = 1 Fish Point

PVI ranges from 0.2 to 2.0

At 2.0 PVI

When you true rake $0.01, you will get allocated $0.02 PVI Rake = 2 Fish Points

At 0.2 PVI

When you true rake $0.05, you will get allocated $0.01 PVI Rake = 1 Fish Point
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