The 1st comment of yours where i absolutely agree

Edit: imagine playing on a site doing quite well and telling other regs come play here instead of your joke site!! Do not u like money?!

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Yeah this so much. Stop playing there with ZERO RAKEBACK come to here where I play and win.

Does the first image mean that the biggest winner at $200 buyin games on stars only won $50k in an entire year?

Yeah. Don't know how accurate that is though and is it reg or zoom games.

its pretty accurate and its only reg tables, no zoom

This site rakes preflop 3-bet pots. It's absolutely the worst site you can possibly play on!

This plus without winning (top 3) leaderboards, which is literally impossible on lower limits due to individuals taking turns (shifts) with account to consistently grind for 24 hours I only get 15-20% rakeback from the fish buffet (based on PVI).

Further, when adding the jackpot fee it's less rakeback (haven't calculated), but it's a lot less. Sadly, I live in Ontario and we end up like U.S with big brother (regulation) locking us down from other options like party poker, pokerstars, 888, etc. On these networks not only they increased the rake by nearly half, but also there's literally like a player pool of 6-8 on the lowest limits, probably within the site with specials promos to keep any traffic going.

I was fortunate to play from 2004 and the difference in hourly profit is significant when I was receiving 55-60% rakeback and without three bet pre being raked. On top I was getting some $100-150 tourney tickets for free. I simply cannot understand how these networks lately are alright to lose millions, because they're apparently OK to get significantly more rake from like 2-3 players out of 15, than to give out more rake to 9-11 out of 15.

Any promotions that are based on races, jackpots are just bad long term, because they are not in the interest of the players. There's one promotion "GGcare" that's good for 5-10NL, but again it's not rakeback. Include the $ they're giving to affiliates and ads (sponsorships) with also now regulations creeping the state of online poker has never been worse for cash games. Then there's the 2% fee I pay for currency conversion whenever I deposit or withdraw, and there's also deposit/withdrawal fees, so now imagine if there were on top taxes.

It doesn't surprise me why more are avoiding cash games and go for MTT's (tourneys), but I don't see myself sitting 8 hours on a good Sunday just to double or triple my buyin, and if I did a tourney, based on past EXP networks will do all they can to not allow me to cashout big sums. The only good news is more are aware of the importance of rakeback, and if more are not earning $ means more opportunities for other networks to get into the market sooner rather than later.

ok its clear. you are a barely winning reg on gg and you want all the other regs to leave

well personally i think Party are the best network. 40% rakeback, boosted hours and now even a 50% further boost on my rake back. It literally makes zero sense to play on other sites

and in the past my record was 20 buy ins profit in a week just from the promotions alone (not including cashback or poker money) and yet people still choose to play on a site that is 9 bb / 100 rake!

All i can think is player numbers. When people log onto a site and see hundreds of players in the pool, thats all theyre motivated by. Yet when you go on a smaller site like Party, they dont 'like' the smaller player pools. But its clearly the superior poker product! It literally makes zero sense to keep playing on sites like GG but people do... especially now Party have updated their software theres no excuse.

Like one streamer was trying to clam how Party promotions are "boring" and how "great" promotions like splash pot and GGcare are. Well.. 1stly you may get dealt 27 in a splash pot, or you may LOSE with AK, meaning you even DOWN a buy in rather than winning. and i have literally been in about 10 GGcare in a row and won nothing.

But hey... if people dont like being given 20 buy ins profit a week from promotions, then thats up to them i guess

Well to begin with you don't just get the 40% rb. You need to grind a decent ammount or play higher stakes. Still I'm so baffled why people care where others play? Like literally why do you care?

Allso the only thing that should matter when you choose a site to play is your hourly. Not the client not the size of the pool not the promotions. Only thing that should matter is how much money you make hourly.

while i agree with your point. You also need a player pool to some extent. If theres only 10 players each time its not really feasible. I find so long a zoom pool has 25+ its usually ok

And many people would easily reach the 40% on Party with the amount of grinding they do, just makes no logical sense to me to do the exact same grinding on another site for 15% as opposed to 40%

I created an account on GGPoker two months before I was 18 and now I'm above 18. Will GG let me verify my account or will they ban me and confiscate my winnings?

Lol. I broke the rules do you think they don't care and wont confiscate my winnings? Rolf. Good luck dude.

Not very smart of you... now they have something to catch you when you win big money. Don't create a second account! Wait a few months with verification. Maybe they're overlooking it. Be good to other people and make yourself useful to the Universe and God will condone it.

[edit] Can't edit my other post. Thanks, if my post gets edited by a mod!

@qazse

If you want to play on GGnetwork without any worries in the future. Would I make another account on a different GGnetwork skin.

have any of the previously banned players already been reinstated with olive branch stuff?

I downloaded the natural 8 client. When I went to click on signup on the client, the country list they give seem to be only a few and seem to be bangladesh, hong kong, macau vietnam, thailand etc. So you have to sign up for gg then? Had thought back then you could sign up for n8 in almost any country but did recall I read if you were in some countries, N8 was the only option. So did that change recently on natural8 signup?

Also I took a look at tournaments on the n8 client which is the same as the gg client. I notice tournaments on gg take a long time compared to stars and party. But of course no site compares close to how long wpn tournaments last.



Now is gg/n8 the only site to rollback the blinds to 40bb to 100bb at the start of a final table? I have never heard of any site doing something like this ever. Do most players prefer this? Yes there is going to be more play to the final table because of this but it will also make tournaments last much longer. Are there players that dislike this? Surprised I don't see much talk about this.



Also is there any software similar to starscaption that people use on gg or is none of those software allowed? I know HEM3 and PT hud aren't allowed which is good. But are there issues with running HEM3 if you are playing gg with say stars or 888?

yes they have only few asian countries in the list, but contact support, they have a 24/7 live chat, they will tell you no problem after you fill the form, they will fix it adding manually your country (has to be a one which is allowed to play at n8, who are the same of gg) and also fix with the right area code phone number.

why are you focused on playing on n8 anyway? its exactly the same and gg is the normal/first skin

third party software is not allowed on gg, so no caption or anything, but it does has hotkeys build-in and this works pretty well.

Hey I didn't know about that. I didn't know you could chat with them live unless you have an account.



Is there any pros/negative to playing on n8 vs gg? Do most people have 2 accounts? Also if you bust out of a tournament on your gg account and say not playing in any other tournaments, could you log into your n8 account and register for that same tournament?



Okay no 3rd party software is allowed. When you say it does have hotkeys build in... do you mean its like stars where you could add as much hotkeys you want for preflop and postflop sizing that you use with hotkeys on your keyboard? Because someone told me gg only allows a few preset preflop and postflop bet sizes like most sites. But gg allows you to add hotkeys where say you want to add say 3 more bet sizes so you could use say the keys h for 55%, n for 80% pot, m for 95% pot?



I am asking this because I want to sign up for both sites. But one site, i want to use an affiliate. And the other site just sign up directly. Do you think that is good idea or not? I always heard there is no harm in signing up with an affiliate its always better. I only plan to play tournaments. I was told by that, fish buffet by default you should get around 20% a month back? That is pretty good when compared to stars and 888. However, I was told that if you sign up with an agent, you would get much more maybe at least 25% to 30% more? That seems really high but seem accurate based on the numbers. They told me there is no issue signing up with them but i heard a while back you could get your account banned if you sign up with agent and they give you rakeback? Is this still true or not? Do most people here use agents or its only worth it if you play cash?



What about signing up with an affiliate like raketherake or rakerace? I assume with them, its much more safer as its a big affiliate that lot of people use compared to an agent? Has there been cases of account banned due to sign up with affiliate or is it only agent? But what they offer is like a rakerace as oppose to rakeback? Would that be significantly less than an agent?

Allways thought you can only have one account in the network? Or atleast you can only use one 1st deposit bonus.

btw pauly, in the same time you type those long questions you can check it out yourselves

download software and you can check everything including what can be altered in hotkeys section

I heard people mention a while back you could always have 2 accounts on the network and that won't be an issue. But you cannot play it at the same time.



I did download the n8 software. However, I didn't create an account yet to see what can be altered in the hotkey section because I wanted to know people opinion about just signing up directly... vs signing up via an affiliate like raketherake/rakerace... or signing up through those agents.



A while back I heard no issue but then later on some posters mention if you sign up through an agent, you can get banned. But several agents here told me that isn't the case... so I assume that is no longer the case? But I assume the safer method if you want to sign up through someone is an affiliate like raketherake/rakerace since well those are big affiliate sites as oppose to a person? Because those affiliates seem to offer a rakerace... but agents... those are still considered rakerace even though it seems it could be rakeback? So I figure okay sign up one account with an affiliate/agent... but the other one directly?

ask gg support, they know