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09-14-2021 , 06:42 PM
I opened up the lobby and GG seems to be reg infested, how the hell you can take money out if the rake cap at NL200 is 9$?
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09-14-2021 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Heavy Mask
I opened up the lobby and GG seems to be reg infested, how the hell you can take money out if the rake cap at NL200 is 9$?


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Originally Posted by Raised2Win
Do you mean the decrease is the rush friday double drop pots with sponsored pros? But they also included the BBJ. At 1/2 the max rake seemed to be 9$ now, seems like an increase to me. How did the regular games got an increase if rush didnt.


Where do you guys see 9$? I am looking at rush and cash and reg 200nl tables and both have a cap of 3bb and 1bb for splash pots which is 8$ in total?
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09-15-2021 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonimi
Where do you guys see 9$? I am looking at rush and cash and reg 200nl tables and both have a cap of 3bb and 1bb for splash pots which is 8$ in total?
Poker Hand #RC519062541: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2021/09/14 06:34:25
Table 'RushAndCash37237' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($497.06 in chips)
Seat 2: fb17c8da ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: 71975310 ($196.61 in chips)
Seat 4: cc4d0b41 ($212.5 in chips)
Seat 5: dce5f1e4 ($230.14 in chips)
Seat 6: 41cd69a3 ($591.41 in chips)
fb17c8da: posts small blind $1
71975310: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qd]
Dealt to fb17c8da
Dealt to 71975310
Dealt to cc4d0b41
Dealt to dce5f1e4
Dealt to 41cd69a3
cc4d0b41: folds
dce5f1e4: folds
41cd69a3: raises $2.4 to $4.4
Hero: raises $10.6 to $15
fb17c8da: folds
71975310: folds
41cd69a3: calls $10.6
*** FLOP *** [Qc 8h Ah]
41cd69a3: checks
Hero: bets $12
41cd69a3: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Qc 8h Ah] [7c]
41cd69a3: checks
Hero: bets $57
41cd69a3: calls $57
*** RIVER *** [Qc 8h Ah 7c] [2s]
41cd69a3: checks
Hero: bets $171
41cd69a3: calls $171
Hero: shows [Qs Qd] (Three Queens)
41cd69a3: shows [Kh As] (Pair of Aces)
*** SHOWDOWN ***
Hero collected $504 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $513 | Rake $6 | Jackpot $3 | Bingo $0
Board [Qc 8h Ah 7c 2s]
Seat 1: Hero (button) showed [Qs Qd] and won ($504) with Three Queens
Seat 2: fb17c8da (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: 71975310 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: cc4d0b41 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dce5f1e4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 41cd69a3 showed [Kh As] and lost with Pair of Aces


rake 6$ Jackpot $3 , it definetly raked 9$

What I dont get it is that if the BBJ should be 1 BB and Splash pot pool should be 1 BB and the cap is 3BB why the rake is 9$ and not 10$ ?

Last edited by Raised2Win; 09-15-2021 at 02:43 AM.
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09-15-2021 , 07:40 AM
Its 1bb for bbj and 0.5bb for cash drop, total $9.
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09-17-2021 , 11:54 AM
is there a way to reduce gpu usage for ggpoker? keeps spiking up to 60%+ . When you add in other sites it just lags all over the place
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09-18-2021 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AV0995
is there a way to reduce gpu usage for ggpoker? keeps spiking up to 60%+ . When you add in other sites it just lags all over the place
Maybe use an integrated card or both? Increase the fan speed, get an extra cooler. Update Windows, drivers?

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Its 1bb for bbj

Cool, you get Jackpots at Rush also. Still a good site, up to a point, or maybe not NLH cash.
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09-20-2021 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sturutter
What are people's thoughts on the change from High hand jackpot to the Bad Beat Jackpot?

I'm surprised this hasn't been spoken about. With 1BB being taken from every pot 30BB or higher, it's a massively important part of the overall equation. I suspect this may be bad news, potentially even turning alot of previous winners to losers.

It's almost impossible for us to run the math on how our EV has changed from the HH jackpot to the new Bad Beat Jackpot, but if an assumption is fair that GG wouldn't change the jackpot to unfavour them, then we can be fairly sure that it unfavours us.

Any thoughts on which games are in the best (or, least bad) spot with the new jackpot percentages? I would say for sure that the EV in PLO4 is less than in PLO5, as the 6:10 ratio that those are split in is not correct, given that you need two players to make big hands, and so it will be more like 36:100 (the sqaure), and so should actually be more like a 1: 3 ratio.

Has anyone ever had any indication (on the previous high hand jackpot or this new BB jackpot?) of how much of the money taken in the 1BB contributions goes into the pool? I would be almost sure that it's not 100%, and suspect it's as low as 25%.
short deck is hit the hardest its an ante game so its plays like triple the stacks but shares the same pool. for example a .50 plays like a 2$ holdem game rake wise but you dont hit the same jackpot you hit the one two stakes lower. Its absolutely stupidity to have it in the same pool as non ante games. its also 1 in 2 million to hit im not sure how that relates to other games but im told its worse as well. Games are at half volumn and any reg with half a brain moved to pokerstars who are currently offering 65% rakeback. fyi shortdeck used to have its own highhand prize pool

Thats the thing this is happening just as pokerstars is reintroducing rakeback. seems like a very big blunder and not that unfortunate for short deck players because we can go play on a less shady site now

Last edited by MoViN.tArGeT; 09-20-2021 at 12:28 AM.
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09-20-2021 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Heavy Mask
I opened up the lobby and GG seems to be reg infested, how the hell you can take money out if the rake cap at NL200 is 9$?
More rake equals more rakeback. I don't think anyone or atleast a wery small % of the field plays anything else than lbs and rb tbh.
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09-21-2021 , 12:10 PM
Anybody here have experience with increasing their transfer limit on GG? I want to increase it, but I see you have to answer what your occupation is before you do it. So what I'm really wondering is if you answer that you're a poker pro will they lower your PVI even more?
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09-23-2021 , 04:51 AM
The big GG elephant in the room is the move from High Hand jackpot to the new Bad Beat Jackpot.

Both take the same 1BB contribution for every pot over 30BB, and so have a tremendous, and, crucially, hidden extra effect on rake; the extra 1BB does not show in rake numbers, even after PVI, and so we receive no rakeback on it (apart from from the promotion itself)

However, I think the BB jackpot is far worse than the HH jackpot. For a PLO, and particularly PLO5 player, the HH jackpot was a semi-regular occurence, and added up to an important amount. The BB jackpot will be incredibly rare. Yes, any win could be massive, but this extremely high variance of leaking alot every day, in the hope of a massive windfall once a year, is not helpful.

However, it's worse than just variance, as I'm sure the EV of the BB jackpot is worse than that of the HH jackpot. Given GG's sharpness on all things rake related, we can be absolutely sure that a change of the jackpot system falls in their favour, and so falls against the player. There is also the addition that the HH jackpot did have some reasonable amount of skill (making sure you had put in 15BB, and making sure you did not lose your opponent when you had a straight flush draw, etc), and so any previous edge to the pro is lost in this more random system.

The new jackpot is best for PLO5, and worst for holdem, but "best" is very much in the sense of "least bad." I honestly think for me as a PLO5 player, the move could be the difference between winning and losing. I'm sure this will be the case for other people, and that this is probably the exact hope of GG.

The other factor I think people miss is that GG gently portray it as if all 1BB contributions go into the pool. This will of course not be the case. My guess on the fraction of the contributions that do go into the pool would be 1/3 or 1/4. The pool increases by about $170k a day, so a shocking amount is being taken out in "hidden rake." I think that the jackpot pool will reach an equilibrium of about $10m.

If regs are not aware of the damaging and hidden extent of the extra 1BB, it is really important to take it in. Thoughts?
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09-23-2021 , 03:19 PM
Curious if they are already thinking how to randomize leaderboard payouts? Given the rake most of the winnings are from rakeback and they're randomizing it as much as possible. Can't say I like it but we'll see how it works long term.
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09-23-2021 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sturutter
The big GG elephant in the room is the move from High Hand jackpot to the new Bad Beat Jackpot.

Both take the same 1BB contribution for every pot over 30BB, and so have a tremendous, and, crucially, hidden extra effect on rake; the extra 1BB does not show in rake numbers, even after PVI, and so we receive no rakeback on it (apart from from the promotion itself)

However, I think the BB jackpot is far worse than the HH jackpot. For a PLO, and particularly PLO5 player, the HH jackpot was a semi-regular occurence, and added up to an important amount. The BB jackpot will be incredibly rare. Yes, any win could be massive, but this extremely high variance of leaking alot every day, in the hope of a massive windfall once a year, is not helpful.

However, it's worse than just variance, as I'm sure the EV of the BB jackpot is worse than that of the HH jackpot. Given GG's sharpness on all things rake related, we can be absolutely sure that a change of the jackpot system falls in their favour, and so falls against the player. There is also the addition that the HH jackpot did have some reasonable amount of skill (making sure you had put in 15BB, and making sure you did not lose your opponent when you had a straight flush draw, etc), and so any previous edge to the pro is lost in this more random system.

The new jackpot is best for PLO5, and worst for holdem, but "best" is very much in the sense of "least bad." I honestly think for me as a PLO5 player, the move could be the difference between winning and losing. I'm sure this will be the case for other people, and that this is probably the exact hope of GG.

The other factor I think people miss is that GG gently portray it as if all 1BB contributions go into the pool. This will of course not be the case. My guess on the fraction of the contributions that do go into the pool would be 1/3 or 1/4. The pool increases by about $170k a day, so a shocking amount is being taken out in "hidden rake." I think that the jackpot pool will reach an equilibrium of about $10m.

If regs are not aware of the damaging and hidden extent of the extra 1BB, it is really important to take it in. Thoughts?
RIP GG
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09-23-2021 , 06:58 PM
BTW How is it good for GG (besides nice publicity)? Now once every a while someone will hit a huge jackpot and will cash it out or loose on higher stakes shots. Before that players carried on, played their stakes and eventually turned most of it into the rake.
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09-23-2021 , 08:26 PM
fish love the idea of hitting big. What I don't understand is why they made the bad beat jackpot such a tiny percentage chance of winning, like losing with quads.

Losing with AAAxx using 2 cards would be better, for a smaller jackpot ofc.
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09-24-2021 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
fish love the idea of hitting big. What I don't understand is why they made the bad beat jackpot such a tiny percentage chance of winning, like losing with quads.

Losing with AAAxx using 2 cards would be better, for a smaller jackpot ofc.
My thoughts exactly
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09-25-2021 , 10:27 AM
Hi sorry can anybody tell me if the deposit bonus could be applied to each deposit up to $600 ? GG says that there is no need to increase deposit limits to take advantage of the offer and that the deposit bonus is cumulative ..
I'm currently at $100.
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09-27-2021 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
BTW How is it good for GG (besides nice publicity)? Now once every a while someone will hit a huge jackpot and will cash it out or loose on higher stakes shots. Before that players carried on, played their stakes and eventually turned most of it into the rake.
There is also the factor that the previous HH jackpot had an element of skill. You had to make sure the pot size was enough, judge when to give a free card, etc. I bet they realised that pros were getting a higher percentage of the HH jackpot "rakeback" than fish. They will have hated that. This new promotion has the same EV for everyone.
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09-28-2021 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sturutter
There is also the factor that the previous HH jackpot had an element of skill. You had to make sure the pot size was enough, judge when to give a free card, etc. I bet they realised that pros were getting a higher percentage of the HH jackpot "rakeback" than fish. They will have hated that. This new promotion has the same EV for everyone.
Good point
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09-30-2021 , 09:59 AM
is it possible to remember table positioning at GG?
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09-30-2021 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by blukubluku
is it possible to remember table positioning at GG?
No but you can use jurojin for this. It's free.
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10-01-2021 , 05:49 AM
Cash grinder here who rakes for solid $ monthly, I'm about to sign up on GG I'm looking for a decent affiliate deal. Please hmu on discord Joost#9738
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10-02-2021 , 01:42 AM
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Cash grinder here who rakes for solid $ monthly, I'm about to sign up on GG I'm looking for a decent affiliate deal. Please hmu on discord Joost#9738
Just added you on Discord mate
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10-02-2021 , 11:31 AM
Anyone else struggling to get the daily freebie window to open?

Pops up but just hangs with a red circle going round and round
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10-03-2021 , 10:45 AM
Hi guys, just wonder if anyone have problem with GG now??
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