hi, i live from poker seens 2/3 years ago, and im playing currently at nl100 of ggpoker, and i really cant understand what its hapenning, its like the software some days destroys you, and i really dont think this is variance, i lost a LOT of 95% favorite, ( really a lot) like 5% or 10% it becomes 80%.

im not crying i understand the variance, sometimes some fishes put the running once and they hit, its strange, i mean when u are almost dead you at least put "running twice".

someone had similare storys?, its like the soft punish the professionals.


this are my graphs, i repeat im not crying about variance, i doint care variance, this fits in another level, just asking is someone else are having this issues.

Idk if its rigged, and i know i sound like a fish, but i really want to know


Graphs: this is february and if you know the sistem from ggpoker its not the real money ofc




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edit: graphs are from NL50

edit2: i think im going to go anotheer software, wichone do you recommend?

Yes it is rigged this has been confirmed several times. It's impossible to run roughly 12 bins under ev so there's another piece of evidence. Atleast the rb is really good and low rake overall.

That is probably the sickest run below EV I've ever seen.

the graphs i put there was to prove im decent player and im not crying about variance, i dont care the buy ins ev, i know its standar, the point of the post was to another perspective, but whatever

sorry but I don't think you'll be taken seriously.

personally wherever I play I go through stretches when I really feel the game only rewards fish and low equity hands. I'm playing poker for a living for 12 years, and yet I'm still very affected by results in the short term. No idea how we, or at least me, don't mature in that sense.

anyways, if you feel things aren't right, it's fine I guess to switch it up and change the software, just to calm your paranoia. Thing is, if poker is rigger, then it's likely just as rigged on most sites.

i know my post seems fishy, i play poker for years, im not a recreational, my point was that the low % seems to be bigger on GG , but i get it and if i was all of you i would see this post like fish post, but i just wanna know if someone feel the same

i know what you mean, Some of the beats are just ridiculous. Seems like when youre ahead you love and when youre behind u lose as well. Not to mention the high rake. I try to stay away from this site but i keep coming back. its brutal!

There is hardly any hands played and the bb/100 is missing, so not worth to look into.

I play GG. I agree 100% with you. I play Micro 2 and 5 how the F*** is posible im not a winner on 2NLH and Destroy 5/10??

i always run it once with 5%, but i'd always run it twice with 95%.

I've played on GG poker on and off since around the time it was launched, mostly 6 max hold'em, from 25nl, 50nl to 200nl currently. What strikes me about you graph is your 30k hand upswing that tappers off after. This is something I've experienced on numerous times at almost all levels.

The pattern is consistent to this. So say when I initially deposited I hit this upswing almost immediately (between 20k - 30k hands like yours) which usually equates to a 10 to 15 BI upswing. After I go on a massive break-even/losing stretch of the 40k hands + after. Then I usually get fed up and stop playing for a few months. Then once I start playing again after 5 or 6 months or a full year one time I have the 20k to 30k hand upswing again followed by the 40k hand break even stretch. This pattern has repeated I'd say 3 or 4 times over the course of the years now which makes me think something is up.

Because of the nature of poker and how it messes with your head I used to write this off to variance or my game changed but after it recently happened I know that I play the same way and its just the flow of cards massively stop coming in your favour and everything that has worked previously completely stops working.

Now I'm not a complete tinfoil hat and I like to think I can think rationally about things so I understand and argument against my complaint would be that you could write this off to the player pool gets used to my play style and so adapts and therefore I make less profit and by the time I come back to the game a couple of months later the player pool has changed enough or the ones that are there still have forgotten my playstyle so again I go on another upswing but i don't think its that. The downswing stretches seem to consist of extended periods of me simply not hitting cards with flops continously coming unfavourable to making acceptable bluffs and continuation bets.

I don't know whats going but just said I'd type this to see if anyone else has any similiar experiences. I've seen other people write about this 20 to 30k hand experience too

The tech from 15 years ago it's so much more advanced, which is why at the end hourly profits matter the most. Anyone who believes they're not getting the outcome based on math after a sample of data will do what hundreds of thousands others have done, which is try the network and migrate where they see better profits, or wait until another network arrives. The GG Network with its own issues it's still one of the better ones in the current era of online poker, and this itself it's quite concerning for the online state of poker.

Evolution it's a force that cannot be stopped, and we can only look forward online poker to keep improving. Where there is money to be made criminals and criminal activity, lobbying, corrupting etc. will be happening, but ultimately the players are the priority, and if they're not using their money the criminals will have to try harder.

Why are you playing Microsoft if you destroy 5/10 lol