Hello Everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster.
Popped in merely to inform the original poster that their wall of text is in desperate need of proper, good old paragraphs.

Best wishes,

P. A-rag Rapher

I agree and someone accused Rampage of doing that with him and others at the Wynn in a cash game. I believe they collude.

Rampage winning that bracelet really went to his head. He seemed like a good kid who got corrupted by his poker success. He is probably sitting in a card room right now with a portion of his chips purchased with my money. Mariano just strikes me a a tool and a fraud.

As someone who writes professional press releases on a daily basis, I can tell you that the others in this thread aren't on you about your formatting because they're trying to troll. As many have noted, it's about readability.

THEY'LL DO THE SAME THING TO PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO WRITE EVERYTHING IN ALL CAPS EVEN THOUGH NOTHING IN THAT STYLE SUGGESTS IT WARRANTS EXTRA EMPHASIS. SO OFTEN, PEOPLE COUNTER CRITICISM OVER GRAMMAR AND SPELLING BY SAYING "THIS ISN'T ENGLISH CLASS," YET THERE IS A REASON WE LEARNED GRAMMAR AND SPELLING IN THE FIRST PLACE – IT IMPROVES A READER'S ABILITY AND WILLINGNESS TO RECEIVE YOUR COMMUNICATION.

I'm sure they would do the same if you wrote a detailed, well-thought explanation in a manner like this. Sometimes style is just as important as content, particularly if you wish to have your message received.

Ferthermorr, dey wood hrap on yoo iff yur speling was so horiffic that it renderred your otherwize cojent aqquzations undeciferible. Studees sho that 70-90 persent of comunikashuns iz non-virbal. Speling an grammer are paurt uv dat 70-90. Even iff duh subjeck madder of ritten comunikashuns iz on pointe, transgreshuns from covenchuns speek to the riter's intelijence and credebilitility.

Of course, the part that you keep snipping back at these people is where the trolling begins.

But back to your subject: interesting stuff. Do you have screen shots, hand histories, or other pieces of evidence? I'm not saying I doubt you, as ClubGG and Rampage both have histories that squander any benefit of the doubt.

Such backup would be particularly damning. Almost every scam or scandal discussed on 2+2 began with doubters and trolls, until evidence surfaced that silenced even the toughest skeptics.

This is always what i think when i see **** like this. How do you look at all that and be like "well if they lose their place in the first half F***em!".

98% of the time i assume drug usage and am hopefully rarely wrong. If people did it on purpose it baffles my brain why they think anyone would want to read all that.

also somebody give wilbury a gold star from the dollar store cause his post was way more interesting than OP's (and i didnt even read it!)

I didn't think about formatting when I created the post. I agree that it should have been paragraphed properly. I am unable to edit it at this point. As per the allegation of collusion that should come as no surprise because that happens on every poker site, regulated or not. Secondly, when certain user name that you have seen in the past always playing on the same table(s) then suddenly join your table in unison and start folding around to one another and then blasting off together anytime you join a pot it is pretty clear that it is collusion.

Secondly, the allegation of the club being a Ponzi scheme is totally valid. Why are they paying out old players with new player funds. Why was I told to send money to Rampage, then have two random people start sending micro deposit through Zelle. I played in another ClubGG club and there were two guys who ran it together. You would send either one of them money, and if you cashed out you would get your money back from either one of them. There was none of this Ponzi **** going on.

I lost money to the collusion and apparently going to lose the rest of the money from my initial buy in that the club has made no effort to return in full. Rampage basically took off with the money. Maybe it will come back, maybe it won't. I won't hold my breath.

So for the price of, as you said in the first post, "a small amount of money", they could have bought your silence? Despite the "total Ponzi scheme", even though "It wouldn't shock me if those running this club were dipping into player funds to support their gambling habits knowing that if the sh*t hits the fan they would have zero liability.", and it was "clear as day that these users were either multiple people colluding or perhaps one single individual using a series of devices to run multiple users at a single table", as long as you got back your "small amount of money", we'd not hear a peep from you?

If you are truly looking to warn the community, sharing whatever evidence you have would probably be a good start.

This is pretty common practice in the poker community. Players are more than willing to look the other way until they are the ones being directly stolen from. Sad but true.

I stay away from these online clubs because ultimately you probably have no recourse if you get cheated or stiffed. And ofc these clubs are going to be full of cheating/collusion. Basically, play at your own risk.

Yeah although I believe Rampage colludes with his buddies like Mariano and I believe the OP that this ClubGG setup by Rampage is a ponzi, I think it's time though we see some evidence here.

i read the title but did not read that cluster**** of words you call a post.
All of these apps are filled with scams and collusion.

Someone told me to sign up on 2+2 and talk about it. But instead of a discussion out comes all of the idiots to police the thread and piss and moan because I didn't format the thread properly with paragraphs. But many people said this Rampage and Mariano guy are shady and are no strangers to accusations of collusion. This is what happens when you have a 12,000+ member poker club and have dishonest and shady agents running it.

Explain why one of my cashouts for a few hundred dollar was paid by roughly 6 different players. The Zelle receipts don't lie buddy. Where is the rest of the cashout... oh right, in Rampage's bank account. Nothing stops multiple people from sitting on a conference call or screen sharing in efforts to exchange hole card information. Have you ever heard of card removal? Pretty easy to crush someone in Poker when you get to play the game with 8 or 10 cards in your hand.

The chips on GG poker have no actual value. These club owners can easily supply unlimited chips to groups of players who pay absolutely nothing for them. These players can then work in massive groups to collude against legitimate players knowing that even though they paid nothing for them that in the event a player actually makes a win the club can just pay them out with new Player funds to not arouse any suspicion. You don't buy chips from the ARIA and then ask the Bellagio to cash them out for you.

As I said I believe you. But you need to do some due diligence as well and research what you are signing up for. His promotion for that stupid Club GG thing seemed shady as hell to me right away.

2p2 is not rly a great place to bring this up and it's far from the great hub of poker that it used to be. I agree it's pretty sad that serious allegations like this are met with gripes over grammar and formatting. You'll probably have better luck and more reception from people that matter if you post this on Twitter.

Apparently not. I mean what really sets me off is whatever agents he is using want to insult one's intelligence even though it becomes blatantly obvious that this is a MASSIVE money making scheme making Rampage and Mariano and whoever else is involved a literal 24/7 income stream. This isn't some small scale operation over here. There was a 5/10 going on with over 10k one single table. The worst is when these agents start lying through their teeth by telling you that they are going to "investigate" with the actual CLUBGG people when CLUBGG has made it explicitly clear that it is not a real money gaming platform.

When I say it is collusion it is because it is collusion. These colluders can get away with it by not being so f*cking obvious. Like I said, poker can make you rich very fast when you have 8-10 cards in your hand.

I mean what is going on with this Mariano guy.... I mean you look at guys like Andrew Neeme and Brad Owens and these two guys that are by far better players than Mariano and they are barely sitting at these nosebleed high stakes games. Mariano was shuffling chips at 2/5 getting his clock cleaned all the time for bluffing too much and isn't the profile you will see when seeing a player miraculously jump from 2/5 all the way up to 50k-100k buy in games. Ethan has earned somewhere in the ballpark of 400k-600k in lifetime earnings between tournaments and cash. Even with investments he has made and has publicly talked about his ROI and total net worth doesn't measure up to to this recent streak of 50k-100k cash games playing against players who clearly outclass him in the game. This kid would be broke in less than a month already unless he had a major source of income or otherwise access to a big pool of money.... Maybe like the deposits of over 12,000 players in his club.

Provide some evidence or stop whining. You’re making essays without any info just accusations

Let’s start with something that should be easy - can you screenshot and post your Zelle cash outs?

Yes. All of the cash outs were from a bunch of new players. Basically someone new signs up and the agents tell them to send their money for the chips to players requesting cashouts. You will never send or receive from the same person twice. How is that useful to you?

lol I joined recently and games are super soft. I am curious for evidence of payout not being received though.

I will say they do take payments a really dumb way.

Not to derail but one of the reasons they can now play that high is because of YouTube…Rampage made 250k last year alone from it,he details it on his channel….

Somehow this wouldn’t surprise me at all. Two trash, half ******ed-looking poker players go from small stakes to 50k+ buyins seemingly overnight and on top of that heavy involvement with the ever reputable, stainless poker apps. I can’t verify one way or another but did think something was fishy and if the claims are corroborated - color me not surprised

Here’s my experience w club gg:

I deposited a couple hundred dollars ran it up to about 2k and decided to cash out.

They cashed me out in about 10 payments ranging from 50-700. It took maybe 3 days max.

So OP you do have a point about the Ponzi scheme nature of these apps. The same thing happens in Poker bros and pppoker etc.

But one main reason they do this is to cut down transactions. A lot of these payment methods get shut down.

Idk it’s an annoying part of app poker. But usually you just put up with it bc the games are good.

As far as collusion goes I haven’t played enough to detect it. But this is a problem on every poker site in 2022. If it’s that bad then stop playing or only play w money you can afford to lose.