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12-09-2025 , 01:33 PM
If you're playing with EV cashout, like the plo5 tables on massive union...

I think I understand the rules, as they are written. But rather often I see a player cash out and still win the whole pot. For example, I just saw a heads up pot where a player cashed out on the turn with 94%. The board ran out and the player who cashed out won and got the entire pot, the loser went to 0.

As I understand the rules, the cashout player "forfeits his claim to the pot" meaning the losing player should keep 6%. Am I mistaken?
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12-09-2025 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by c double
If you're playing with EV cashout, like the plo5 tables on massive union...

I think I understand the rules, as they are written. But rather often I see a player cash out and still win the whole pot. For example, I just saw a heads up pot where a player cashed out on the turn with 94%. The board ran out and the player who cashed out won and got the entire pot, the loser went to 0.

As I understand the rules, the cashout player "forfeits his claim to the pot" meaning the losing player should keep 6%. Am I mistaken?
Cashout is insurance, losing player if they don't cashout their equity gets nothing. The winner rejects claim to full pot and receives agreed insurance price, usually the equity minus a fee of 1 or 2%.

Imo it is a silly feature that costs you ev over time but hey we don't have to use it.
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12-12-2025 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkDavis
Cashout is insurance, losing player if they don't cashout their equity gets nothing. The winner rejects claim to full pot and receives agreed insurance price, usually the equity minus a fee of 1 or 2%.

Imo it is a silly feature that costs you ev over time but hey we don't have to use it.
But what I'm saying is, players are cashing out and still winning the entire pot when the runout gives them the win. It doesn't seem to always happen though.
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12-12-2025 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by c double
But what I'm saying is, players are cashing out and still winning the entire pot when the runout gives them the win. It doesn't seem to always happen though.
Ah ok, I have never played on an app but if it happens only sometimes then it could be some sort of feature or a glitch. If they have any support network would be worth reaching out to them.
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12-12-2025 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by c double
If you're playing with EV cashout, like the plo5 tables on massive union...

I think I understand the rules, as they are written. But rather often I see a player cash out and still win the whole pot. For example, I just saw a heads up pot where a player cashed out on the turn with 94%. The board ran out and the player who cashed out won and got the entire pot, the loser went to 0.

As I understand the rules, the cashout player "forfeits his claim to the pot" meaning the losing player should keep 6%. Am I mistaken?
Yes, you are mistaken. If player A cashes out, he gets whatever his cashout percentage is minus the vig. Player B either wins or loses the pot as normal (assuming he doesn't cash out as well). This means that the site either wins or loses on each cashout.

E.g.--$100 pot. Player A has 60% equity and cashes out. Player A wins. Player A gets $59 (cashout equity - 1% vig); Player B gets $0; house makes $41.

$100 pot. Player A has 60% equity and cashes out. Player B wins. Player A gets $59 (cashout equity - 1% vig); Player B gets $100; house loses $59.
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12-15-2025 , 12:42 PM
Suspecting more house bots lately, they have been making them look fishy but they are way more agro than the typical fish and have better wwsf than most regulars, wouldn't be shocked if even sharing cards between, no proof on that, seems out of line though. Small chance I'm wrong, but doubtful.
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01-19-2026 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PLOhMyGod
Yes, you are mistaken. If player A cashes out, he gets whatever his cashout percentage is minus the vig. Player B either wins or loses the pot as normal (assuming he doesn't cash out as well). This means that the site either wins or loses on each cashout.

E.g.--$100 pot. Player A has 60% equity and cashes out. Player A wins. Player A gets $59 (cashout equity - 1% vig); Player B gets $0; house makes $41.

$100 pot. Player A has 60% equity and cashes out. Player B wins. Player A gets $59 (cashout equity - 1% vig); Player B gets $100; house loses $59.
Thanks! If only their rules were as concise
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03-06-2026 , 03:29 PM
Anyone have success running this on a windows machine? I wanted to play on my microsoft surface tablet but I am unable to complete the log in. Ive attempted all the work arounds suggested by AI to no avail. Tips, help, and ideas very welcome.
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03-06-2026 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ponder
Anyone have success running this on a windows machine? I wanted to play on my microsoft surface tablet but I am unable to complete the log in. Ive attempted all the work arounds suggested by AI to no avail. Tips, help, and ideas very welcome.
What is the error you receive? It should work on Windows without issues.
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03-06-2026 , 04:42 PM
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What is the error you receive? It should work on Windows without issues.

There is no error. I log in click on the button to run the app and nothing happens. Ive tried multiple browsers and enabled pop ups like it requests.
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03-15-2026 , 09:10 AM
I am suddenly getting an error message when trying to log in from my desktop?
I get the message as soon as I click sign in, and I can login just fine from my phone.
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04-02-2026 , 03:18 PM
I get these "housebot" like characters every table. They play tough vs me, softplay vs all recreationals. This guy Black_sparrow enters the game within 1-5 minute every time I play. Somehow most of the hands I play are vs these BS accounts. They should be beatable, but why cant we just have ****ing honest games like in the old days anymore? Why do we have to deal with this ****ing bullshit

In the 35 VPIP games their stats are usually something like this

**** online poker



20plo MDA driven bot ( 35% VPIP games)

im crushing them when playing lower stakes and im more comfortable with swings. But how can people running site/app not notice these stuff? so obvious lol. They play the same, attack the same spots and 1 of them every table.



Games are filled with bots and every reg I speak with at tables seem to be fully aware of it. Very sad

2 bots joined tables at same moment. BjornAllin and FinnAllin



However, it seems like 90% of the bots disappeared. Some people got caught!

Bot, joined about same time as BjornAllin and FinnAllin



50plo table FinnAllin runs hot, builds to 200+ stack. Leaves the game, replaced by BjornAllin RIGHT AWAY. Joke right? They also have all the bot scripts in their play.

OBVIOUS BOTS

Last edited by Mike Haven; 04-18-2026 at 06:28 AM. Reason: 5 posts merged
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04-27-2026 , 06:25 PM
After last update I have problems with app. Some tbls random crash and close; then can't open them from client, only app restart help
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