I even reporting bots to them for a while. They don't seem to do anything about it. I play plo. Seems few bots there but I never see any action on the sites end to remove them.

Anybody from the UK playing on Tiger? How do you cash out besides with crypto?

can anyone explain why TigerGaming has a "medium" rating for bot detection, while BetOnline and SportsBetting are rated as "low"... How is TigerGaming being more proactive? Is it because they are a ROW skin on Chico (and not primarily US facing?l

I don't get it either, man. Just feels like they really DGAF right now.


The VIP system is based on how much rake you pay. Mid-High stakes cash game regs pay the most rake so they will show as the highest tiers. You will find more MTT regs, casual players and low-stakes cash game players in the MTTs than you will see 200NL+ regs in MTTs. If you see a bunch of Elite and Platinum players at your MTT table it means your table is likely full of cash game regs.

If you've played some 200NL you've almost certainly played with some bots.


Congrats buddy!


I've seen them remove bots in the past. They are just very inconsistent.


At one point in time TigerGaming probably banned a few bots from whatever bot forum you're looking at and that earned them that risk level. I can tell you with absolute certainty that they have the most bots coming from their site on this network and they are absolutely not a medium level of risk for botters. I'm not sure there's any risk of running a bot on that site at the moment. Low or minimal would be more accurate.

Thanks for the information MCAChiTown. I'm curious as to how profitable bots are? Even if these bots aren't killing the games, but making a small profit, if someone had 10 running on a site they must be making a pretty penny.

Just a quick question on the timebanks - is everyone's timebank automatically activated? I HATE losing my (ridiculously short) extra time when I am looking at another table or window. It doesn't happen I wish it was activated by choice.

I figured out by switching tables and/or clicking away I can occasionally deactivate it but it's annoying to not control when your timebank gets used. Anyone know any solutions?

This is the situation that is frustrating me at the moment. Because of my job I can mainly only play during the day when the table is sometimes half bots. Most of them are break even but a few are more profitable. Even so its hard to be very profitable against them. Its taking me quite a while to move up in stakes. Its crazy to me that while beatable, 10NL is far from easy unless you are already very very good at poker. At least during the day

I have had timebank problems in the past but I don't think I've encountered this. I wasn't even aware you even got extra time. I just assumed you don't get much time in general and am never surprised when I get timed out. I used to get the "insta-time out" thing happening. Usually if I closed out the table and opened it again it fixed it. But I definitely lost a bunch of pots because of it. I've found it hard to play more than 4 tables without any of that table ninja stuff or whatever

The website has Game of Thrones odds up for very small limits. I noticed a huge discrepancy in one of the lines vs bovada and thought others might be interested. I'll put in a Spoiler Tag as I don't want to ruin the show for anybody:

I'd be very careful of getting freerolled.

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Thanks for the heads up. Looks like the bet is no longer up, but still showing in my pending bets section. I'll let you know how it goes if it ends up winning.

1.5% fee plus exchange differences in price, buy/sell spreads also.


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They're not world beaters, but I've never come across a real player who has made 22K at 100NL and never attempted to play a higher stake.



This is just one bot. Some are closer to break-even, some are slight winners, some are slight losers, but they take a lot of money out of the games all combined.


As far as I'm aware the timebank is automatically activated and there's no way to change that. If there is a way to prevent your timebank then I haven't come across it.

If you'd like to see a change to it you could put your feedback in their Suggestion Box.


Rake is also a substantial factor to winrates in the microstakes. Bot filled games + high rake = very few winning players.


Your timebank increases the longer you're at a table. I believe somebody in this thread found the exact amount of timebank increase over time spent at the table. I don't remember it exactly. It is a very slow increase.

Wasn't a bunch of people complaining about people time banking every single hand because of multi-tabling? I would hate it if some idiot was playing 8 tables and making everyone wait every single hand.

Looking to try something different, would like to hear some opinions of BOL Poker, rewards, and software. Thanks

I don't recall those complaints, but you could be correct. Perhaps the complaints were MTT or SNG related? Those are formats where tanking can really change the game. Anybody complaining about cash game tanking with this current amount of time to act just needs to open another table or two.

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Rewards are not great. They don't offer traditional rakeback. They do give you tournament points for contributed rake. They do offer a first deposit bonus. They do offer regular contests with cash prizes.

Software is very good, especially if you're used to the other sites that cater to the USA.

If you have any other questions about a specific aspect then please specify.

Sounds good to me, thanks for answering....they do allow HUDs? I've never used one but am looking to try one out (legally)

I downloaded the poker room, looks like fun, but not trying to dig up details in the TOS right now, will give them a shot tomorrow eve

Thanks

wow, you have been here since before the Internet

You're fine to look at other options, but they do offer a HUD of their own if you don't want to purchase one. It's a HoldemIndicator clone.

And nearly 2 decades before I was even born.

MCAchitown, which tracking site is that?

What about traffic these days? nl25-100 no game at all

Looks like I signed up with them some years back for the sportsbook, in the process now of sending documents to get an address change

Poker room looks good

How do you access the HUD that they offer? I didn't see an option for that on the site, or do I need to download something from the 'Net?

Thanks for your help

Yeah it gets slow, especially 50nl. During the middle of the day it gets down to just a couple tables at every stake of total nits (aka bots), and maybe 1 or 2 oblivious recs that get eaten alive. 100nl seems to have had some decent traffic during the evening and night as do most stakes when people get off work etc.

TBH I REALLY love the software and everything but I usually will choose to play elsewhere when it gets that bad and can't multi table.

That is called the BOL Odds Calculator. After you navigate to the poker section, you can click a link for it on the very bottom of the pages on their site. PT4 is much better though, you just have to use a card catcher as well (which is an additional purchase).

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Two factors at play are time of day and time of year. Evening hours in the US are the peak traffic hours during weekdays. Weekends sometimes have better traffic throughout the day. Around noon you can sometimes find some decent traffic. This is also the time of year when people start to get out more and are less likely to sit inside playing poker. Traffic starts to decline a bit at most sites around this time of year.

It's very rare that you won't find at least a handful of 100NL games, especially if you're willing to play 6max and 9max.

I would not describe the bots as nitty. They are typically looser than most of the regs at the same stakes.


You could also consider DriveHUD which doesn't need the card catcher or HM2 which does need the additional card catcher purchase like PT4. There might be other options too. You could start out with the free one and use the free trials on the others to test them out to see what you prefer.