I don't think the word scam means what you think it means. If you didn't read the Terms & Conditions prior to accepting the bonus you have nobody but yourself to blame. I regularly tell people to always read the T&C before accepting any bonuses from gambling sites.

LMAO, you run $20 up to $300, then say it's a scam? You could easily run that $300 up to $4,200, make a few $100 bets, and call it GG.

But yeah, you should always read T&C any time you take any free money. You must be really young, online sites have always had rollover requirements & cash out restrictions for taking bonuses. These rules are to protect sites from people depositing, taking bonuses, then just cashing out without even playing anything.

Maybe not a scam so much, but it is a terrible deal. You are right that you should never trust any deal that seem good, and really dont do it when it is a poker site. No such thing as a free lunch......

you can also just forfeit your bonus and let them take the $20 from your $300 and cash out 280 i believe

i was under the assumption i could forfeit my bonus. i asked and they said there is no possible way out of the bonus. i must bet 561 in sports before i am able to cashout, period.

im trying to complete my bonus but even when i have a winning day, im not winning.
i made 9 bets yesterday resulting in a $29 win, when you compare my wins to my losses, i am $29 ahead.

apparently, they calculate differently. they take my total dollar amount in bets, yesterday it was $87.50, and minus my wins from that total. which results, in a $20 loss!

how does that make sense? i made 8 bets at $10 a piece, won 5 of them. i made 1 bet at $7.50 and lost it. 9 bets total, won 5 of them. HOW THE **** IS THAT A LOSS????

also, they are not crediting the actual dollar amount to my roll over. if i win, only the winnings are credited. if i lose, that amount is credited.

so im trapped in a bs "bonus" playing a sports book that wont even pay me when i win.

on what planet can $300 "easily" be turned in $4200? where did you come up with that number.

You turned $20 into $300, which is very good. If I can remember, every $20 I bet became $20 in rollover. I would just bet $20 a game early, then run into live bet and try to hedge that as much as possible. It's been a very long time since I've taken any bonuses, but I smashed them for a Parlay 7 last week.

Good luck, It seems like you're good at sports!

These two statements contradict one another.

This isn't enough information to know. How much were each of your wins? If you win with a bunch of heavy favorites, you could go 5-1 and lose money.

I suspect they're not crediting the winnings, but the amount wagered, which is as it should be.

Edit to add: You're not forgetting to deduct your initial wager from your wins, are you? IE if you wager $10, and the winning bet will pay you $15, that's a $5 win, not a $15 win. Sorry of that's obvious to you already, but it's hard to know for sure what's happened with the incomplete information provided.

I think with his 5-4 record, it might just be a tiny bit early to make that projection - especially if he's losing money.

5-4 record could be really good if he is just trying to get some rollover. +$29 bucks sounds like a winner, but the rest of his post is really confusing, definitely a young gun.

RocksOne, I think maybe you have been betting stuff with large juice, like -500 is putting down $5 to win $1. I would stick to like -110 or max -120 juice games, normally Basketball and Football is what I play.

I'm taking Los Angeles Clippers +123 & Phoenix Suns +160 tonight, along with both of them getting points.

Im 32. But when it comes to sports betting, i am certainly a young gun. i hardly ever bet sports. im just trying to complete this rollover.

i was doing the math correctly, but i was doing the wrong math. i would bet $10 to win $13.54. then count the $13.54 as my winnings. which is not the case. i would then stack my winning total against my losses. which is wrong. you take your total bets and minus the winnings, then you have the sum. which is why sports betting SUCKS! probably why they want me to play $561 before i can cashout. which really SUCKS! but oh well i plan to complete it and not go broke.

sports bettors. please answer my question...

you have three $50 sports bets. each pays $75 if you win (+25)

how many of the sports bets do you have to win to show a profit?


yes i was doing it wrong. im a total newb at sports betting. ive found out it really is a terrible play.

this has not been the case for me. i just added up the money ive wagered on sports. its $532, my rollover is $236. so maybe i did a different bonus but i feel completely handicapped by this. what a terrible thing to do to their customers.

this while im paying rake on mtts. prolly payed $100 in rake since joining the site about two weeks ago.

$50 +150 odds is $50 + $75, you get your original and win back, so two.

you are incorrect, sir. if you win 2 bets thats $50 in WINNINGS. you lose 1 bet for $50. $50 in wins, $50 in loses. 2 wins is break even.

I don't know man, none of your math seems to add up in any of your posts. It would be easier if you give us the odds. Your math is based on -200 odds, mine is based on +150 odds.

So is your bankroll now over $500? Because your first posts says $560 rollover, which is 14x your deposit with their 100% bonus, $40.

i transfer $250 to sports book. leaving $50 for poker. my poker is now $579. my sportsbook is $220. i have about $330 left in rollover to complete. what is my best strategy for completing the bonus?

Is there anyway to change my username, if not am i allowed to delete my current account and create a new one? Should i just call them and ask lol

The guys at 10/20 really can't see hole cards or future cards. However they (generally) are very good players, and will make your life at the table difficult.

Pretty sure I know your screen name - as you were complaining about it being rigged earlier on the 10/20 table.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you didn't play great. You lost a stack, then tilted off another one in 2 consecutive hands a few hands later.
One hand, you called off your stack on a 4 flush board with one pair. Yes, you had AK. No, it doesn't always win.
The other hands you called down with weak holdings and lost. No big conspiracy there.

It's not going to make you feel any better, but it's not uncommon to go 1000s of hands getting the worst of it. Instead of immediately crying foul, I would recommend trying to understand where you went wrong, focusing your energy on learning how to improve your technical and mental game.

If you think it's tough at 10/20 here, try stars. The players are total beasts there.
As much as it hurts my bottom line to say this, if you can't take huge swings for that sort of cash, it might be best to play lower.

Feeling unusually charitable today, so PM me if you like and I'll offer some free strat advice on those hands you played. One time offer. However, I suspect you won't take it up, preferring instead to assume you are being cheated.

We're not all monsters (away from the table at least ).
gl in the games

I've never been good at speaking in odds, but his math seems bang on to me, and pretty easy to follow. 3 bets at $50, each pays out $75 ($25 in profit). He puts out $150 (3 x 50), and gets back $150 (2 x 75). Or, the way he worded it also works - two bets show a $25 profit ($50 total), and one shows a $50 loss. Either way you approach it, he breaks even.

The only thing I'm confused about, is why he asked the question in the first place, since he seems to have the math down just fine.

I don't think you can change it on any one site on the network. If you only have an account at one of the sites then you may be able to create an account on a different site. Definitely talk to customer support before doing it though. Save the conversation so that you have proof if you're ever questioned about the other account.


100% to your first point and if you're just handing out free high stakes strategy advice then where do I sign up?

If you're talking about $10/$20, all I see is a 6-max table, you got to be really good to be playing short-handed like that. I'm guessing you fold 10 hands in a row, then wake up with pocket aces and raise pre-flop.

I asked and they said no (BetOnline), so I created a new account at SportsBetting... My reason for asking was I wanted all my screen names the same on all the sites/networks I play on.

why would You want that?

I have an image to uphold

For rollover you get credited the lower of the wager and win amounts. Therefore to clear rollover while wagering the minimum required amount try to place even money bets. If you want to keep variance low and maximize the chance of cashing out approximately what you have then place many small even money bets. -105/-110 are fine too, just don't lay or take long odds. This method will minimize your exposure to the house edge.

If you have no sportsbetting knowledge then betting randomly is fine. There are sites which provide "expert" lines. I do not know if relying on these will increase your chances, but I like to use them since I know nothing about sportsbetting.

He should look at sbrodds or some other site offering odds and just bet on games where BOL has a relatively good price. College basketball is a good place to look right now.

I have almost no knowledge of sportsbetting, just general gambling, but that seems like good advice.

I have used sbr before. It's quite nice and free.

I doubt he's funded at another book, or in Vegas, but if he were then he could try to scalp it out by betting both sides of a game, too.