Hello 2+2 members,

I just wanted to inform you to be very careful playing high stakes(200$+) sit-n-goes in BOL.

Players:
ARPAD1122, baffometi, incrediblePROFIT, Johnny77, Tireur are colluding.

I've played a lot of double or nothing sit n goes and I am certain these players collude. They basically never call each others all-ins in late game and are aggressive against me or other players on the bubble. They are very smart colluders and don't exploit this in an obvious way, but I had DoN sngs were I was chip leader with 4700 chips and lost. there was 3bb player which just folded and they reraise me or called me everytime and try to play flops. This never happen in standard sngs when everyone waits for the 2bb player to bust. I have played like 10 of these don's and won just 1 because of amazing run of cards. the other 9 I managed to double, tripled up in the early stage and then just dump everything in late game because all the situations were perfectly set up against me.

I don't want to waste my time to put in all the hands because there is no easy way to export them from BOL and I have e-mailed BOL about it but my main point is that I'm playing poker for 15 years, 5 years professionally online and when these set ups happen it just make me sick.

Be careful when selecting games.

I am here to ask for Chico to implement some simple filters for the SNG lobby. The current look of that lobby is a mess and it limits the potential volume for SNGs. I am a longtime high-volume SNG player and if a rep wants to further discuss this with me on skype feel free to pm me.

You need regs to help seed SNG games, especially above $5 buyins. It doesn't work like cash where you need recreational players to open tables. We shouldn't have to scroll through 40 games that we would never play to register a game that is not currently seeding but that's how games start. If you gave us buy-in range filters, as well as hyper-regular-turbo speed filters I guarantee you will get more SNG traffic. I personally would create plenty of it instead of the little bit I play on your site now. The opportunity is there, moreso now than ever because of all of the stars regs looking for more games.

I heard that Chico has denied this request because nobody is asking for it. I know of a few that have and I know a few people who want it and trust me these are people you want playing on your site because they create SNG traffic. It's up to you...make the lobby more manageable and increase traffic, or do nothing. Chico definitely has a lot of room for growth in SNG (especially in offpeak hours) and I hope you guys realize that.

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You say he mentioned some other sketchy things and then don't divulge any details. Then why even bring it up at all?

The other things he mentioned had to do with players he suspected were "playing for the site" and didn't have anything to do with the RNG. He basically thought that BOL cheated legit players out of bad beat jackpots and large tournament prizes.

Thanks for posting this info.

I'm not saying what you're saying is not possible, but without any evidence it really is just hearsay. Please have your live poker buddy post here if he does have evidence. It would benefit the community to know if these claims can be proven. Until then it's hard to give any credence to the things he, through you, is saying.

why would we give a fk about the stupid decisions you make?

The botting at 6max 25NL and 50NL is getting out of control. I'm seeing multiple tables with 2 and 3 bots on them. There's about 20 currently between the 2 stakes. It's back to the point where more than 80% of the tables have a bot on them at all times. I'm going to gather up as much info on them as I can this weekend and ask customer support to do something with these accounts. If nothing is done I plan on moving my action elsewhere.

There are bots on the 50, 100 and 200 PLO games every day as well. I was under the impression that BOL looks the other way because they get rake from them like every other player.

I wasn't hoping for any of you to "give a fk" just providing a little background. Now run along and get back under your bridge troll.

I understand. Will try to track him down and ask for proof.

The volume of the botting accounts went way down for a couple of weeks after the site did an update. It's pretty obvious that the botware was recently updated for the site which has resulted in a huge influx of botting accounts lately.

What you say may be true, but if they are going to allow this trash to occur then everyone should be aware of what's happening. Even the fish and weak regs, who don't even know what Two Plus Two is, deserve to know they're playing against these cheaters. When I try to tell them at the table they don't believe me because they say the site doesn't allow bots. They boot winning players at the high stakes saying they cater to the recreational player, but allow these cheats to absolutely obliterate the recs and weak regs at the smaller stakes. It's just not right man!

Tha eff?

You two cant possibly have history? Or is Ralphie jus bein a dick/guilty pos?

I did get two tickets havent played, hope they dont expire....Not a fan of the network for obv reasons

Someone pleas share how too beat these bots please? 3bet whenever, always lead dry turns? Continue BB riv any board?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Also, other than short stacks, any names shared?

LLNL/PLO

Agreed.
Like more than 80% of the time there is not a game without a bot on it!
I play 25NL only and I see you at tables from time to time and you don't play much! (I think you might know my SN, I changed it a couple of months ago)And I like the way you are approaching because there isn't good games!
Tables with 2-3 bots and 2 regs ain't the way to make money!
I haven't played more than 10K hands the last 10 days and it's because of the bot situation.
I'm just one person who was making at lesat 2K a month in rake for them.
And we are a group of 4 who were studying together. 1 of us moved around 1 month ago. Another dropped to 10NL and is looking for another room to move. I am moving and the other one is comming with me.
And here goes at least 8K a month in rake..
I tought chico would be my room at least up to 200NL but I'm out.
Good luck you guys!

See but that is the problem say for someone like my in NY who wants to play with a HUD to help me learn the game. Sure I can play on Global and prob make so much more than I can make on BOL, but thats really my only option aside from ACR which there are pretty much no fish even at NL10.. Damn we need regulated online poker already! Come on America, land of the free!

Hello everyone! Don't play on Tiger gaming!!! I placed a bet today of a 150$ on Las Vegas and Vegas won 7-0, so I went in my cashier and I realized I still had the money i did bet but but not the rest. So after i confirmed my bet they gave me and bet id, that I didn't write down, cause usually website don't try to scam people, so I figured it would be the same this time. I talked to the live support and they said that I never placed a bet and that I don't have a bet id, therefore they won't pay me. They are a bunch of As*hole, and this is a fraud company. I strongly suggest to anyone thinking about playing on Tiger gaming or Chico network, not to. Save your money, your time, and don't encourage a unethical company.

My decrease in volume has coincided with the increase in bot volume. The games already have a lot of regs. Adding the bots just makes the games not worth playing most of the time.

Options are limited and that sucks, but I would just try to spread your action out among your options.

I play mostly 50 PLO and 50PLO8 and I'd like to know who the bots are and how we know that they're bots. Sure, I see a lot of the same players are the 50PLO8 games almost everyday, but even if some of them are bots most of them play a fairly loose passive game that's not really that brilliant. I'm yudodis by the way.

anyone have problems w the client? havent been able to get on in the past yr or so. i click login and the screen never takes me to the lobby, jus fades a little

I'd really like to help, but I don't play any PLO. There have been others in here that have indicated they know who the suspicious accounts are in those games. Hopefully someone else here can let you know.

chico down or just me?

down for me

Tiger,Mobile client
Logged in.
Around 2100 online. Pretty normal. So I guess:
1- whatever it was it's fixed now.
2- it's just you guys

Maintenance in 1 minute. LOL stupid botters. Hope you enjoyed the week you aholes.

***This is on an Android phone (BOL)***

1) Turn on VPN
2) Open BOL app
3) Lobby is Blank (no info/text)
4) Turn off VPN
5) Lobby comes back to normal, easy peezy, play poker

Cool
Maintenance means no HUDS for awhile and room free of bots for awhile too?
I'm coming back in that case.
Btw @MCA, still no activity on social media?
No interest on study group?