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03-02-2015 , 07:51 PM
For hands per hour, I play 55 minutes and take a 5 minute break every hour at the regular tables and average around 220 hands/hour if that helps.
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03-02-2015 , 07:58 PM
Anonymous play has made fastfold poker hard for me.

I was a solid winner on ftp rush, over about 75k hands from 50nl-200nl

On bovada, i am approximately breakeven over about 30k hands from 25nl-100nl

On ftp i did not play with a hud; i just took good notes so i knew what to do against each reg. On bovada you have to rely entirely on herd exploitation, but sometimes i find myself in tougher spots than they should be if i had any reads.

Additionally, however, i'll note that this isnt really a fair apples to apples comparison because on ftp i was playing full ring, as opposed to on bovada the only zoom that runs is 6max. So it also could be that i just suck at 6max. Or also my sample sizes are pretty modest so who knows... but my winrate at ftp was good over that sample.
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03-02-2015 , 09:12 PM
Why doesn't bovada offer super turbo or hyper turbo heads up? Even 3max or 4max would be cool. They want to protect the rec from losing his roll?
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03-02-2015 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DropTheHammer
Thanks again for taking the time to address my question in depth. You're the man! So it sounds like there's still a decent amount of fish on zone then? I don't really have much experience with Zoom/Zone/Rush style games. I think I'll give it a shot to determine how it affects my hourly. Cheers again, mate.
There's a ton especially after about 7-8PM EST.
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03-02-2015 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by peterchi
Anonymous play has made fastfold poker hard for me.

I was a solid winner on ftp rush, over about 75k hands from 50nl-200nl

On bovada, i am approximately breakeven over about 30k hands from 25nl-100nl

On ftp i did not play with a hud; i just took good notes so i knew what to do against each reg. On bovada you have to rely entirely on herd exploitation, but sometimes i find myself in tougher spots than they should be if i had any reads.

Additionally, however, i'll note that this isnt really a fair apples to apples comparison because on ftp i was playing full ring, as opposed to on bovada the only zoom that runs is 6max. So it also could be that i just suck at 6max. Or also my sample sizes are pretty modest so who knows... but my winrate at ftp was good over that sample.
With the anonymity, do you find people make more moves? Either preflop or in big pots on later streets? Is that what you mean by more tough spots?
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03-02-2015 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Why doesn't bovada offer super turbo or hyper turbo heads up? Even 3max or 4max would be cool. They want to protect the rec from losing his roll?
please don't add these. terrible for the economy, pretty much every rec player will flock to them and kill the action in the other games.
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03-02-2015 , 10:41 PM
No one bluffs at Zone.

And everyone is a SUPER STATION. My c-bet success rate was soooo low at Zone

Last edited by TVC21; 03-02-2015 at 10:42 PM. Reason: At least at 10nl/25nl/50nl
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03-02-2015 , 11:00 PM
As a live NL500 grinder what limit would you say most accurately reflects this skill level on Bovada? NL10? NL50? NL200 perhaps? Looking to deposit online so I'm not away from home so much.
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03-02-2015 , 11:38 PM
Satellite SnG traffic is so bad. I've been trying to get $150k gtd and Sunday $50k gtd SnG qualifiers to run but no luck all day. You would think more players would like to try and win $30k with an $8 investment.
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03-02-2015 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TVC21
No one bluffs at Zone.

And everyone is a SUPER STATION. My c-bet success rate was soooo low at Zone
Good to know, cheers.
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03-03-2015 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by javi
As a live NL500 grinder what limit would you say most accurately reflects this skill level on Bovada? NL10? NL50? NL200 perhaps? Looking to deposit online so I'm not away from home so much.

Normally I'd say start with 25nl should do well but bovada is pretty soft. Start with 50nl few buyin shot and see how you do.
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03-03-2015 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by peterchi
Anonymous play has made fastfold poker hard for me.

I was a solid winner on ftp rush, over about 75k hands from 50nl-200nl

On bovada, i am approximately breakeven over about 30k hands from 25nl-100nl

On ftp i did not play with a hud; i just took good notes so i knew what to do against each reg. On bovada you have to rely entirely on herd exploitation, but sometimes i find myself in tougher spots than they should be if i had any reads.

Additionally, however, i'll note that this isnt really a fair apples to apples comparison because on ftp i was playing full ring, as opposed to on bovada the only zoom that runs is 6max. So it also could be that i just suck at 6max. Or also my sample sizes are pretty modest so who knows... but my winrate at ftp was good over that sample.
I was the same, decided to try zone because I used to play rush.

There is definitely an adjustment, and playing without reads makes it tougher. But after playing for awhile and seeing the way people play you will be able to figure it out.

I actually like it now because I can add a couple zone tables in the background while playing tournaments or regular tables and I don't have to worry about following the action and getting reads.
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03-03-2015 , 05:54 AM
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As a live NL500 grinder what limit would you say most accurately reflects this skill level on Bovada? NL10? NL50? NL200 perhaps? Looking to deposit online so I'm not away from home so much.
how well have you been doing at 2/5? where you been playing? if your a big winner at live 2/5 id start at 100nl maybe even 200nl on the dog, but if your a marginal winner at live 2/5 id start lower.
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03-03-2015 , 06:17 AM
Skill wise you're probably not good enough to beat online, at the very least, that's how you should view online poker. So come up with a figure that you're comfortable losing, then decide how big of a bankroll you want and choose your stakes based on that. At the very least, transitioning to 4 tabling online poker isn't something that most people start doing as a winner, despite any live results.
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03-03-2015 , 07:48 AM
Is something wrong with Zone Poker? It shows that there are countless people at every table, but there aren't.

I don't seem to be having any glitches at the cash tables.
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03-03-2015 , 12:20 PM
I still haven't received funds from a visa cash out that was processed on February 15th and a wire that was processed on the 14th. Ive never had a wire take this long once it was processed. Is this normal occurrence with bodog processors?
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03-03-2015 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by peterchi
Anonymous play has made fastfold poker hard for me.

I was a solid winner on ftp rush, over about 75k hands from 50nl-200nl

On bovada, i am approximately breakeven over about 30k hands from 25nl-100nl

On ftp i did not play with a hud; i just took good notes so i knew what to do against each reg. On bovada you have to rely entirely on herd exploitation, but sometimes i find myself in tougher spots than they should be if i had any reads.

Additionally, however, i'll note that this isnt really a fair apples to apples comparison because on ftp i was playing full ring, as opposed to on bovada the only zoom that runs is 6max. So it also could be that i just suck at 6max. Or also my sample sizes are pretty modest so who knows... but my winrate at ftp was good over that sample.
Or you're just running bad/break even over 30k hands. It happens.
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03-03-2015 , 02:15 PM
are they going to run wsop main event sattys this year? i know they did last year but i can't recall whether or not it's an annual thing
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03-03-2015 , 02:39 PM
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are they going to run wsop main event sattys this year? i know they did last year but i can't recall whether or not it's an annual thing
Last year they started the qualifiers on May 1st. I think I received a promo email that said they are doing them in 2015 too, but not certain.
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03-03-2015 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
Satellite SnG traffic is so bad. I've been trying to get $150k gtd and Sunday $50k gtd SnG qualifiers to run but no luck all day. You would think more players would like to try and win $30k with an $8 investment.
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03-03-2015 , 03:09 PM
small sample size, but it feels like normal small stakes sngs at least are filling faster.
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03-03-2015 , 03:43 PM
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As a live NL500 grinder what limit would you say most accurately reflects this skill level on Bovada? NL10? NL50? NL200 perhaps? Looking to deposit online so I'm not away from home so much.
Depends on the live game you are in, but from my experience, I'd say 25NL is pretty close. Bovada has whales just as big as your typical live tourist, but usually not 5 out of 6 of the players as is commonly found live.
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03-03-2015 , 06:35 PM
people are really that bad live, still? i've never played live but it sounds like a pretty promising venture
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03-03-2015 , 07:32 PM
havent seen sng collusion this blatant since the early 2000's
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03-03-2015 , 08:12 PM
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how well have you been doing at 2/5? where you been playing? if your a big winner at live 2/5 id start at 100nl maybe even 200nl on the dog, but if your a marginal winner at live 2/5 id start lower.
I mostly agree with this, it also depends on WHERE the 2/5 game is. For example, if your beating the 2/5 games in Florida or at Foxwoods than I would say start at 50NL, because for sure the 100NL regulars are significantly better than 2/5 regulars at those places.

If your crushing the 2/5 games in Vegas, all year long and at the major casinos on the strip where the professionals play, then I say just go right for 200NL. Maybe even 400NL.

As usual in poker, context is key and the answer is usually "it depends"
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