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02-08-2015 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ratm2525
Is anybody else having problems with the hand history? When I click the Hand # in the upper left corner the HH is not working.
Sometimes that happens to me, but if I stop me sesh, close Bodog, re-start it, it's fine again.
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02-08-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by goforthpoker
this was their actual response when I emailed them about it in the past

Thanks for contacting Bovada Poker Customer Service.

The intentional delay of game, or stalling, is a form of collusion and is strictly prohibited at Bovada Poker. We would like to thank you for bringing this to our attention, as this give us the opportunity to investigate further. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Any player found to be intentionally stalling or suggesting to intentionally stall the game will have their winnings revoked and possibly have their accounts temporarily or permanently disabled at the sole discretion of Bovada Poker Security.
Man, that seems harsh. I pretty much never play MTT's but it would sure suck to win a few k, and then have your money taken away because you used the allotted time given to you, in a way that bugs people.
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02-08-2015 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by goforthpoker
this was their actual response when I emailed them about it in the past

Thanks for contacting Bovada Poker Customer Service.

The intentional delay of game, or stalling, is a form of collusion and is strictly prohibited at Bovada Poker. We would like to thank you for bringing this to our attention, as this give us the opportunity to investigate further. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Any player found to be intentionally stalling or suggesting to intentionally stall the game will have their winnings revoked and possibly have their accounts temporarily or permanently disabled at the sole discretion of Bovada Poker Security.
how is stalling = collusion? this is ridiculous
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02-08-2015 , 05:45 PM
the breaks on satellites are the work of satan
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02-08-2015 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nomoD
how is stalling = collusion? this is ridiculous
This. are you telling me that taking your time near the bubble is grounds for account termination? wtf?
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02-08-2015 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bluhorseshoe1
Anyone know what countries are served by Bovada? And also, if Bovada and Bodog share poker room liquidity? Thanks
Canada, USA, Some Asia. All same player pool.
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02-08-2015 , 09:20 PM
Lol @ defending bubble stalling.

There's obviously a difference between taking your time and timing-down/disconnecting/time-banking every single hand.
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02-08-2015 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Lol @ defending bubble stalling.

There's obviously a difference between taking your time and timing-down/disconnecting/time-banking every single hand.
Agreed.

If you run down the clock every hand you deserve to be beaten with a baseball bat wrapped in barb wire.
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02-08-2015 , 09:54 PM
I'm guessing that a large majority of the extreme stalling is coming from the super poor Asian countries. I see people late reg then stall every single hand, especially for the later tours.
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02-08-2015 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Lol @ defending bubble stalling.

There's obviously a difference between taking your time and timing-down/disconnecting/time-banking every single hand.
Sure it sucks, but is it cheating? Should you lose your winnings over it? That part is completely ridiculous. This isn't anything at all like collusion. Neither is people randomly saying this or that like the last discussion. If you don't want people to use the time allotted to them, don't give it to them in the first place.
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02-08-2015 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nomoD
Sure it sucks, but is it cheating? Should you lose your winnings over it? That part is completely ridiculous. This isn't anything at all like collusion. Neither is people randomly saying this or that like the last discussion. If you don't want people to use the time allotted to them, don't give it to them in the first place.
Running down the clock with 73 off UTG isn't "using the time allotted."
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02-08-2015 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by URallFISH2me
Running down the clock with 73 off UTG isn't "using the time allotted."
what is it?
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02-09-2015 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nomoD
what is it?
Cheating.

Deep stacks do it as strategy to prevent short stacks from seeing as many hands as possible before the blinds/antes increase. If you do that you should be banned from the site.
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02-09-2015 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeUmm
Canada, USA, Some Asia. All same player pool.
Correct for Bodog, but if he meant which countries are served by Bovada, that's only the US. As you say, same player pool.
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02-09-2015 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by URallFISH2me
Cheating.

Deep stacks do it as strategy to prevent short stacks from seeing as many hands as possible before the blinds/antes increase. If you do that you should be banned from the site.
I always thought short stacks do it to survive until the bubble. And deep stacks actually hate time outs bc they like to use the pre-bubble time to push around short stacks waiting for the bubble.

I guess there is more than one way to look at a particular strategy, which is what using your time like that is.

I can agree with you all that it is annoying, but there is no way I will accept that it is cheating. There are too many REAL ways to cheat; please don't ask Bovada support to waste its time policing people that are actually doing things within the rules.
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02-09-2015 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
can each of you all email them to accept bitcoin? I think im one of the few that emailed them on this and if they get lot of emails from users on this, im sure they will look into it faster.
Yeah, I'll definitely send them an email.

Any specific address we should send to so that the same people see all of our requests?

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Maybe a separate "BOVADA please accept Bitcoin" Thread?
That might be helpful too if it's allowed. Then include a link to that thread in the email.
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02-09-2015 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nomoD
I always thought short stacks do it to survive until the bubble. And deep stacks actually hate time outs bc they like to use the pre-bubble time to push around short stacks waiting for the bubble.

I guess there is more than one way to look at a particular strategy, which is what using your time like that is.

I can agree with you all that it is annoying, but there is no way I will accept that it is cheating. There are too many REAL ways to cheat; please don't ask Bovada support to waste its time policing people that are actually doing things within the rules.
Shorts stacks will do it when they are a few people away from the bubble. But, they don't do it for an hour before the bubble, or the rest of the tournament after the bubble.

A deep stack can still push around a short stack while limiting the amount of hands they are dealt and the amount of chances they have to double up. At least, that's the logic of the players that do it.
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02-09-2015 , 01:19 AM
I hate the long delays of online poker too. But there's no way to change this, it's part of the game unfortunately. I also think that people playing on their phones and not caring when they get a bad hand dealt to them is part of the problem. They just do other things until they pay attention to their next 2 hole cards.
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02-09-2015 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hendrix2323
Man, that seems harsh. I pretty much never play MTT's but it would sure suck to win a few k, and then have your money taken away because you used the allotted time given to you, in a way that bugs people.
Bovada will never actually do it. It's just legal crap they have just in case. They're not going to fundamentally change the way poker is played. Let's move onto another subject. Stalling sucks but it's here to stay. If anything ask Bovada to have shorter times to make a decision. I hate the 30 seconds they get to act preflop, let's make it 20. But the rest, discussion over.
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02-09-2015 , 02:46 AM
Logged on tonight for the first time in a long time and it seems the software is a bit new... any idea if the PC version can finally handle sound without locking up and then refusing to work again until you reboot?
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02-09-2015 , 02:49 AM
Dunno man, I rock the lightning animation and all sorts of beeps, haven't had any bovada problems in a while.
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02-09-2015 , 10:23 AM
Though the "using the time allotted to you" justification is terrible, the only solution is to shorten the time banks. Bovada's time banks are way too long, especially if there is not going to be any policing of abuse (which is very difficult in any event).
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02-09-2015 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EndTheFed
Yeah, I'll definitely send them an email.

Any specific address we should send to so that the same people see all of our requests?



That might be helpful too if it's allowed. Then include a link to that thread in the email.

Email bovada at

service@bovada.lv



For the title just put something like Bitcoin Request Deposit/Withdraw Option


Basically just say we would like to have bitcoin as a deposit/withdraw option and theres a lot of people who wants bitcoin since bitcoin is accepted at so many other sportsbetting/poker sites now. Im sure if tons of ppl send them this email, they will initiate it faster. I mean bitcoins save sites on processing costs so thats a no brainer.


Lets all let them know we want bitcoin as deposit/withdraw option. That way players that are not allowed to deposit there can play there. I mean what kind of policy is it players from certain states can play and withdraw but can't deposit. So basically in order for someone to always keep playing on bovada in that state, they have to make sure they have enough funds in there.


Also with bitcoins, then everyone can deposit/withdraw faster and not deal with checks. Though i do know from playing with bovada that checks come usually pretty fast. Of course they stopped allowing checks in my state.


Im sure if they get like 100 emails with this title and email, they will surely look into it faster.
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02-09-2015 , 01:02 PM
I just had a weird experience, I'm sure it was nothing but I would like to share it anyway just in case

playing 4 tables, 6max.

On ONE of my tables a guy raises flop, bets turn, shoves river ... the INSTANT he shoved river I lost connection on only that specific table. I reconnected with literally a fraction of a second to still be able to call, and the guy had literally nothing- no pair no draw the whole time.

Is there any chance this guy was able to somehow make me disconnect on just that table? Because if so, pretty good plan: Bet every street hoping they fold earlier .. if not then DOS them on the river FTW.

Again, if I had to bet I would bet it was just a coincidence but I still wanted to share this.
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02-09-2015 , 01:42 PM
I'll take the over on coincidence as well here, but for what it's worth, this is quite similar to how the Carbon/Merge hacker was winning his tournament pots--his bets/raises on the river would disconnect the table
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