If the ID isn't available until 24 hours after the game ends, why shouldn't you be able to track them over multiple sessions?

That wouldn't help.

In order to expose colluders, bots, multi-accounters, we would need to track over many sessions.

Prior to BF, I received a handful of reimbursements from FTP and PS. Money would just show up in my account and I'd receive an email from support saying something like "after a rigorous investigation, it was discovered that certain players were colluding. We've seized their funds and have reimbursed $XXX.XX to your account... we take security seriously... blah blah blah."

I had this happen a few times, and friends of mine had the same.

I've never heard of bovada doing this.

Conspicuously absent, also, are the "hey, bovada seized my account and banned me... but I want to explain myself" posts on 2+2. We *still* see those for PS today.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absense, I know... but, I'm comfortable in my conclusion that bovada doesn't actually have any back end security which is scrutinizing our games.

If they're not going to do it, at least allow us to do it.

There are several instances of this exact thing right here in this thread.

so I tried to download my HH n I still haven't recieved it. where does it DL to

Mine goes under OS (C>Bovada>Hand History

First time getting one of these yesterday:

Dear X,
Account: X
We have concluded that two players in the Super Turbo Hold'em Tournament that you were involved in have been colluding. As such, their tournament winnings have been removed, and you have been awarded 3rd place. We have added $9.00 to your account.

We are committed to providing a fun and safe place for players all over the world to enjoy poker. With that being said, we are constantly monitoring our tables as well as following up on leads from players to ensure that collusion is found and dealt with appropriately.

Should you have any questions, feel free to contact us at 1-866-909-2237.

Regards,

Bovada Poker Security
poker@bovada.lv
1-866-909-ACES(2237)

I have played a ton of these and have noticed some clear collusion in the past, and a lot recently. Never bothered to report it until now because I figured Bovada would do approximately nothing. It's nice to see they even have a security team, and that they are doing something about this.

Has anyone noticed a difference in the strength of tournament fields over the last 6 months or so especially during USA day morning and afternoon?

People still stacking off in ridiculous spots per usual on my end.

i feel that they earlier bigger buy in tourneys are some of the tougher ones that run, but chances are you're just running into certain players. i don't think the fields have changed very much, if at all.

Unless you're playing games with a low amount of players that isn't going to help you very much. They could just as easily give an ID to players to be used for tracking purposes over all of their games. You wouldn't be able to use the data you've collected against anyone in game (or even know who they are), but you could determine if they were cheating. It takes a lot of hands to find things like that unless the people doing it are dumb and making it obvious.

Naturally they are going to be "tougher" in the day time because all of the recreational players are at work and all of the grinders aren't. Americans make up the biggest % of the players.

I just received the same email myself, same tournament type (super turbo).

is there a way to make bovada tables tile on a second monitor?

Thanks for the reply. I actually called support and they manually pushed the transaction through for me. FYI for anyone else experiencing this issue.

yup support will often be able to get the card to work as long as you only tried once or maybe twice....but too many failed attempts and they can't run it manually either.

Yeah I had this idea on the thread a few weeks ago when I was looking through a very odd session. It was impossible for me to identify anything without a decent hand sample. One or two strangely played hands doesn't show/prove anything.

If this idea gains a bit more traction on the thread, we should probably start a petition. It wouldn't hurt anonymous at all, and would provide protection for all players.

The only downside is it's kind of complicated to explain and make people understand why it is necessary.

I don't think its too complicated at all. The rec players on my tables are ALWAYS venting conspiracy theories about player 4 being a bot or player 2 working for Bovada. I'm sure they would love to know that there is a way to police the games. It would be a rec-friendly feature, even if the recs don't have the time or understanding to perform the policing themselves.

On the other hand, it would allow people to track others' winnings and losses which is something I think Bovada tries to avoid.

No it wouldn't, you wouldn't know who anyone was. It would just be an anonymous ID that you'd be unable to ever use the stats for because you wouldn't know when you came in contact.

Try Table Tamer , I want to do the same thing once I save enough for the pair of monitors I want .

Let me know how it goes

Ah, my bad then. I should pay closer attention to the thread.

You reported it and then bovada investigated?

Or, bovada just sent the email and reimbursement out of the blue?

In other words, did bovada discover the collusion on their own, or did you have to alert them first?

Yeah, but they keep hitting the river. >:-|

I've probably just been getting owned by heads up crushers. But, sometimes it feels like they can see my hole cards. It's scary. But, isn't it a possibility that my network was breached and they can see my screen? Or possibly a Trojan on my PC? I try to avoid playing heads up on Bovada just for this reason. At least on other sites I can see their usernames.

edit: I'm not a rigtard. I'm just trying to protect myself from cheating.